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Arjun Rangarajan (Jun)
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 2:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Julius came looking for something? underground? while he was searching for it, he found Anthony's corpse instead? He freaked out? Brutus started closing the grave without realizing Julius was in there?

Cassius had a part to play in - Anthony's death? Julius's death? Was one of the people's partners?
miroac (Miroac)
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 3:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Julius came looking for something? in an abstract,philosophical sense, maybe, but otherwise, No underground? No... there's something here to explore.
while he was searching for it, he found Anthony's corpse instead? he did see Anthony's corpse instead of something else, Yes.
He freaked out? at this point, Yes.
Brutus started closing the grave without realizing Julius was in there? Yes

Cassius had a part to play in - Anthony's death? Julius's death? Was one of the people's partners?
No to all.
Hint: Cassius has a very minor, passive role in this.
Arjun Rangarajan (Jun)
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 3:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Julius just take a walk? Is the time of the day relevant? Is it night? day? Did he fall into a pit (which was not intended to be a grave) by mistake?
miroac (Miroac)
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 3:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Julius just take a walk? No
Is the time of the day relevant? Is it night? day? It is daytime, which is relevant enough.
Did he fall into a pit (which was not intended to be a grave) by mistake? No
Arjun Rangarajan (Jun)
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 3:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the pit in which Anthony lay meant to be a grave at all? Were they in a graveyard? Did Brutus know Anthony was dead?
miroac (Miroac)
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 3:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the pit in which Anthony lay meant to be a grave at all? Were they in a graveyard? Yes to both, it was a normal grave in a normal graveyard.
Did Brutus know Anthony was dead? Yes
Arjun Rangarajan (Jun)
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 3:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was there a reason why Brutus could not hear Julius shouting for help? Is this because there was some other deafening noise? Is that relevant?
miroac (Miroac)
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 4:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was there a reason why Brutus could not hear Julius shouting for help? Yes Is this because there was some other deafening noise? not really deafening, but enough to prevent Brutus from hearing Julius, Yes. Good question. Is that relevant? Yes-ish. You basically got it, aside from the specifics of the noise.
miroac (Miroac)
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 4:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I will get to the recap tomorrow. Need to sleep.
Arjun Rangarajan (Jun)
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 4:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Good night. Hope you don't dream of graveyards and grave-diggers :)
Alizon (Alizon)
Posted on Monday, January 24, 2005 - 7:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was any of them a sexton? Brutus? Cassius? Julius?

Did Brutus close the grave by throwing earth in (as would be the case in an ordinary grave)?

As to the noise - was it a siren? Human voice? Did it last seconds? Minutes? Longer?
miroac (Miroac)
Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 1:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was any of them a sexton? Brutus? Cassius? Julius? No to all, but somewhat OTRT

Did Brutus close the grave by throwing earth in (as would be the case in an ordinary grave)? YES

As to the noise - was it a siren? Human voice? No to both.
Did it last seconds? Minutes? Longer? probably minutes to hours (I think).


at long last...
RECAP

(These are somewhat, but not necessarily, in chronological order.)

The time period is "no-ish"ly relevant.
Currently, it is daytime.
Julius is underground, in a normal grave, in a normal graveyard.
Julius does not see Brutus and Cassius.
This is Anthony's grave.
He knew Anthony very well. Julius is not afraid of him.
Julius was not there for the purpose of seeing Anthony.
Anthony died of natural causes, hours before "this incident" happened.
Julius freaked out (was surprised, shocked, panicked, and frightened) when he
saw Anthony's dead corpse. He was expecting to see something else.
Brutus purposefully closed the grave by throwing earth in. Brutus did not know
Julius was in the grave.
Julius screamed. Brutus was unable to hear him.
Julius concluded he was going to die. He died of suffocation.
Arjun Rangarajan (Jun)
Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 2:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was Julius there to look for/at a corpse? Was it Cassius's? Is it important to find the nature of relationship between Julius and Anthony? Any other relationships important? If so, Which ones (list of C(4,2) possibilities)?
miroac (Miroac)
Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 2:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I forgot something in the recap...
Anthony's profession is VERY relevant. Julius's is "yes...ish"ly relevant.


Was Julius there to look for/at a corpse? No Was it Cassius's? errr... FA, but...
Is it important to find the nature of relationship between Julius and Anthony? Yes, very much
Any other relationships important? If so, Which ones (list of C(4,2) possibilities)?
The most important relationship is between Julius and Anthony.
There is a relevant relationship between Anthony and Brutus.
Between Julius and Cassius, there is a "similarity relationship (?)." (I'll leave it at that for now.)
Those are the relevant ones. Others may/could exist, but aren't too important.
(I partially answered an aspect of this before, but I'll add this: None of these relationships are blood/family.)
Arjun Rangarajan (Jun)
Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 4:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Any of these relationships -
best friends?
master and servant?
professional such as service provider and client?
Legal heir?
Enemies?
miroac (Miroac)
Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 5:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Any of these relationships -
best friends?
master and servant?
Legal heir?
Enemies? No to these.
professional such as service provider and client? not really, but this is the closest of these
Arjun Rangarajan (Jun)
Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 6:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were Anthony and Julius colleagues at work? Were they of similar ages? Was one of them much older? Which? How long had they known each other - since birth? For a few years?
Anthony's occupation - was it related to
- service?
- the arts?
- leadership/ politics?
- war?
- science?
miroac (Miroac)
Posted on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 9:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were Anthony and Julius colleagues at work? whew... in a vague manner of speaking, I suppose... in the traditional sense, No
Were they of similar ages? Was one of them much older? Which? irrel, they're both adults
How long had they known each other - since birth? For a few years? most likely months to years, but probably not since birth (although I guess it's possible).
Anthony's occupation - was it related to
- the arts?
- leadership/ politics?
- war?
- science? No to these
- service? Yes, in this field
Arjun Rangarajan (Jun)
Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 2:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So did Anthony and Julius have the same/similar occupations? Were they employed?
Clearing up some haziness around Anthony's death...
He died of natural causes?
It was not an accident?
Julius was not expecting Anthony to die soon?
miroac (Miroac)
Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 3:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So did Anthony and Julius have the same/similar occupations? Anthony and Julius did not, but... (keep going)
Were they employed? "they" weren't, but... (keep going)
Clearing up some haziness around Anthony's death...
He died of natural causes? It was not an accident? It was natural causes. The exact natural cause was a heart attack. That particular aspect is not as relevant as other things, such as your next question:
Julius was not expecting Anthony to die soon? Exactly.
Arjun Rangarajan (Jun)
Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 3:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was Brutus expected to bury Anthony? Was he employed by someone to bury Anthony? Had Julius expected Anthony to repay some debt? Was any of them a moneylender? Money involved at all?
miroac (Miroac)
Posted on Wednesday, January 26, 2005 - 3:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was Brutus expected to bury Anthony? Yes
Was he employed by someone to bury Anthony? Yes
Had Julius expected Anthony to repay some debt? Was any of them a moneylender? Money involved at all? No to all.