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Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 7:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Part of conventional wisdom nowadays is that that cancer can be an opportunity for "personal growth," which I suspect is part of a conspiracy to intimidate sick people out of complaining. But Nura really does have a good reason for being glad she had cancer. How come??
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 7:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is her sign Cancer?

Any other diseases relevant?

Relevant how she got cancer?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 8:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

y Fred Z (Dref) on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 07:30 pm:


Is her sign Cancer? irrel

Any other diseases relevant? no

Relevant how she got cancer? no
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 8:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nura = human? adult? female?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 9:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Fred Z (Dref) on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 08:13 pm:


Nura = human? yes adult? yes female? yes but irrel
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 9:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it relevant what type of cancer she had?
"She had cancer", meaning she no longer does? And is still alive?
Is it relevant how the cancer was treated?
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 9:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hair relevant? Did she form a romantic or otherwise special relationship with her oncologist*? Did it provide her with the motivation to quit smoking or some other "bad" habit?

*This does not assume gender or preference of either Nura or her oncologist.
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 9:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 09:14 pm:


Is it relevant what type of cancer she had? yes
"She had cancer", meaning she no longer does? yes And is still alive? yes
Is it relevant how the cancer was treated? yes

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 09:34 pm:


Hair relevant? noDid she form a romantic or otherwise special relationship with her oncologist*? no
Did it provide her with the motivation to quit smoking or some other "bad" habit? no. You should know me well enough by now to know that I would never think that would be a good reason for being glad one had cancer!!

*This does not assume gender or preference of either Nura or her oncologist.
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 10:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I do, but this is about Nura's thoughts. :O

Did it help her find a long-lost relative?

Bone marrow relevant?

Surgery?

Was it breast cancer? Lung cancer? Colon cancer? Did it affect bone? Skin? Organ(s)?
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 10:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did having one type of cancer somehow reveal another, more dangerous type that she had?

treatment is relevant you say..

did she have chemotherapy? radiotherapy? both? surgery? complementary therapy?

is a specific drug she was given relevant? are side effects of treatment relevant? did the treatment have an effect upon another type of cancer she had at the same time?

did having the cancer somehow allow her to gain a benefit? an emotional benefit? financial? health?
did it allow her to avoid something bad happening? to her? to someone else?

is it relevant if her treatment was successful? was it?

was her life saved as a result of having cancer?

are any diagnostic tests relevant?
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 10:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did her cancer cause her to meet someone?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 10:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Check your mail please
dryman (Dryman)
Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 8:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

hello Nimue

had the cancer metastatized/spread? did she have any health problems other than the cancer? was it just a benign tumor (though some would say that's not "really" cancer)?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 9:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did it help her find a long-lost relative? no

Bone marrow relevant yes

Surgery? yes

Was it breast cancer? possibly Lung cancerI think this would be possible Colon cancer? ditto Did it affect bone? ditto Skin? ditto Organ(s)? yes

By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 10:07 pm:


did having one type of cancer somehow reveal another, more dangerous type that she had? no

treatment is relevant you say..

did she have chemotherapy yes radiotherapy irrewl both? surgery? yes complementary therapy? I'm not sure what that is

is a specific drug she was given relevant? no are side effects of treatment relevant? yope did the
treatment have an effect upon another type of cancer she had at the same time? no

did having the cancer somehow allow her to gain a benefit? yes an emotional benefit yope financial? yope
health? no
did it allow her to avoid something bad happening? yes to her? yes to someone else? no
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 10:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is a bone marrow transplant relevant? did she receive one? act as a donor for one? was a donor found?

did she find out new information about herself? as a result of the cancer? or the treatment for it?
did she discover something about her parents? did she find a new member of her family?

so having cancer stopped something bad happening.. would that have been something physically bad for her? another illness? death? or something emotionally bad? or something financially bad?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 11:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 10:11 pm:


is a bone marrow transplant relevant? yes did she receive one? yes act as a donor for one? no was a
donor found? yes

did she find out new information about herself? no as a result of the cancer? or the treatment for
it?
did she discover something about her parents? no did she find a new member of her family? no

so having cancer stopped something bad happening.. would that have been something
physically bad for her? yesor something emotionally bad? yesor something
financially bad? yes
Damien Sullivan (Docd)
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 11:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When you said surgery earlier did you mean the transplant itself?

Did Nura receive something relevant in the donated bone marrow?
If so, a virus? (or other infection), immunity to an infection to which she was previously non-immune? Genetic material? A load of Y chromosomes? Robust stem cells?

Are any of these relevant about the bone marrow donor:
Age? Sex? Medical history? Relationship to Nura?

Is graft-versus-host disease relevant?

Were the "benefits" of this cancer treatment immediately apparent to Nura ? (Say,within a few days of the transplant)
dryman (Dryman)
Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 11:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did the benefit occur while she had cancer? only after it was cured? did the benefit come about as a result of becoming aware of the cancer? if she had lived on with the cancer without it being cured, would she still have received the benefit?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 6:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Damien Sullivan (Docd) on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 11:33 am:


When you said surgery earlier did you mean the transplant itself? yes

Did Nura receive something relevant in the donated bone marrow? yes
If so, a virus? (or other infection), immunity to an infection to which she was previously
non-immune? no Genetic material? yes A load of Y chromosomes? no Robust stem cells? no

Are any of these relevant about the bone marrow donor:
Age? no Sex? yes Medical history? yes Relationship to Nura? noi

Is graft-versus-host disease relevant? no

Were the "benefits" of this cancer treatment immediately apparent to Nura ? (Say,within a few
days of the transplant) no

By dryman (Dryman) on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 11:26 pm:


did the benefit occur while she had cancer? no only after it was cured? yes did the benefit come about
as a result of becoming aware of the cancer? no if she had lived on with the cancer without it
being cured, would she still have received the benefit? yes
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 8:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

sooo

she had cancer? and as a treatment had a bone marrow transplant? and as a result of that transplany received some kind of benefit? that was somehow linked to the acquisition of new genetic material?

is proof of identity relevant?

had she committed a crime? and avoided being convicted because of dna evidence? because her dna was somehow different after the bone marrow transplant?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 9:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 08:20 pm:


sooo

she had cancer? yes and as a treatment had a bone marrow transplant? yes and as a result of that
transplany received some kind of benefit? yes that was somehow linked to the acquisition of new
genetic material? yes

is proof of identity relevant? yesish

had she committed a crime? yes and avoided being convicted because of dna evidence? yes because
her dna was somehow different after the bone marrow transplant? yes. YOU're almost there!!!!!!!
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 10:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so had she committed murder? before the transplant? and they found dna evidence of the killer? and she was a suspect? but when they tested her blood at some time after the transplant the dna didn't match? so she was not convicted?
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 10:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

...sounds like something I read in a Patricia Cornwell novel recently...
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 10:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 10:01 pm:


so had she committed murder? yes before the transplant? yes and they found dna evidence of the
killer? yes and she was a suspect? yes but when they tested her blood at some time after the
transplant the dna didn't match?yes so she was not convicted? yes

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 10:10 pm:


...sounds like something I read in a Patricia Cornwell novel recently... It's from--surprise!~!--"Law & Order
{*** SPOILER*** See my replies to Terribly Clever Hannah, above. Also see my new puzzle at the bottom of the page, below

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