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Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 4:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tony stole the equivalent of 4400 GBP from a bank but was only charged with taking the equivalent of 3200 GBP. The cops knew he took the 4400 and so did the judge and the jury.
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 5:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the exchange rate change?
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 5:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The word "equivalent" is setting off alarm bells for me...

Relevant exactly what Tony stole? How he stole it?

SBQs about Tony (male, adult, living etc.)?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 5:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he steal 800 GBP of his own property?
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 5:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 05:05 pm:

Did the exchange rate change? Nope

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 05:29 pm:

The word "equivalent" is setting off alarm bells for me... Its there just to throw you off

Relevant exactly what Tony stole? How he stole it? No to both, but it was money...from the bank

SBQs about Tony (male, adult, living etc.)? Yes to all
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 7:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was this a typical hold-up (Tony walks into bank, demands money, displays weapon, is handed money, leaves)?
If not, which of these elements is inaccurate: Entering bank? Walking into bank? Demanding money (vocally, via note)? Displaying weapon? Being given money? Leaving?

Was he armed? Is the type of weapon relevant?

Did he leave anything behind at the bank?

When he left the bank, did he have in his possession 3200 pounds? 4400? A different amount? did he make it home with any of the loot? All of it?
Jens Weber (Sundowner)
Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 7:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the bank owe him 1200 pounds?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 7:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

See Martin's Q above... except make it 1200

Did Tony have an account at the bank?
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 7:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By (Stuccosalt) on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 07:29 pm:

Was this a typical hold-up (Tony walks into bank, demands money, displays weapon, is handed money, leaves)? Yes
If not, which of these elements is inaccurate: Entering bank? Walking into bank? Demanding money (vocally, via note)? Displaying weapon? Being given money? Leaving?

Was he armed? Yes Is the type of weapon relevant? Yope-not the type exactly. It was a gun.

Did he leave anything behind at the bank? No

When he left the bank, did he have in his possession 3200 pounds? 4400? This one. A different amount? did he make it home with any of the loot? All of it? This one.

By Jens Weber (Sundowner) on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 07:29 pm:

Did the bank owe him 1200 pounds? No
john e. littleton (Juggler54)
Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 9:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

perhaps the bank owed him 1200 GBP?
He took more because of spite?
john e. littleton (Juggler54)
Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 9:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

pounds the same as GBP?
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 9:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By john e. littleton (Juggler54) on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 09:41 pm:

perhaps the bank owed him 1200 GBP? No.
He took more because of spite? No, Tony is a thief.

By john e. littleton (Juggler54) on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 09:42 pm:

pounds the same as GBP? Yes
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 1:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You missed (Stuccosalt) on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 07:31 pm.
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 5:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin) on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 05:34 pm:

Did he steal 800 GBP of his own property? No

By (Stuccosalt) on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 07:31 pm:

See Martin's Q above... except make it 1200 Still no

Did Tony have an account at the bank? Could be, but not relevant

By Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin) on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 01:45 am:

You missed (Stuccosalt) on Wednesday, March 02, 2005 - 07:31 pm. Thanks. Sorry about that guys.
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 1:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Relevant how Tony was caught? Any details of the robbery or the getaway relevant?

On the 'yope' above ... is some aspect or characteristic of the gun relevant? Is it a real gun? Was it loaded? Is there something unusual about it?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 1:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh, and no problem.. I see those posts all hit right near each other.
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 3:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the bank report that 3200 had been stolen? Was anyone else charged with anything in the crime?

Was the bank or some employee(s) thereof involved in something illegal?

Taxes relevant? Insurance?

Are there any relevant laws we need to discover? Would it have made any significant difference in the case if he'd been charged with stealing 4400 vs. 3200? In the sentence (if found guilty)?
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 4:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By (Stuccosalt) on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 01:11 pm:

Relevant how Tony was caught? No. Any details of the robbery or the getaway relevant? No

On the 'yope' above ... is some aspect or characteristic of the gun relevant? Yes Is it a real gun? Yes Was it loaded? yes Is there something unusual about it? No

By (Stuccosalt) on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 01:12 pm:

Oh, and no problem.. I see those posts all hit right near each other.

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Thursday, March 03, 2005 - 03:45 pm:

Did the bank report that 3200 had been stolen? No, they reported the full amount Was anyone else charged with anything in the crime? No.

Was the bank or some employee(s) thereof involved in something illegal? No

Taxes relevant? Insurance? No to these...but you're leaning in the right direction

Are there any relevant laws we need to discover? Yesish Would it have made any significant difference in the case if he'd been charged with stealing 4400 vs. 3200? Yes, it would have changed how much he was required to pay back. In the sentence (if found guilty)? Only as noted above
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 6:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Relevant how much money Tony had by the time he was arrested/charged?
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 6:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Friday, March 04, 2005 - 06:57 pm:

Relevant how much money Tony had by the time he was arrested/charged? Not sure I understand, but he had the full amount stolen when he was arrested. Any other funds he had are not relevant.
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 1:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the gun have a silencer on it? relevant?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 3:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the gun worth the equivalent of 1200 GBP?
Relevant?