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Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 3:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Victor took his girlfriend to see a movie. On their way out of the theater afterwards, Victor's girlfriend saw a poster for a movie that was not yet released in theaters, and had been billed as having a "secret ending" that not even the press or film critics had been able to see. "I wonder what the mystery behind the ending is?" she commented to Victor. "It's a let-down, they're just trying to hype up a dull film." Victor then proceeded to describe the basic plot of the movie and the "mystery" ending. How was he able to do this?

Any early attempts at spoilers please e-mail me, as this one could go extremely fast
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 12:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Genre of yet-unreleased-movie relevent?
said movie based on writtten material?
on real life events?

Victor involved in any way with the movie business?
Victor know anyone involved in the movie business?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 1:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

sent e-mail
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 2:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Genre of yet-unreleased-movie relevent? It may help to know this, yes
said movie based on writtten material? Not relevant
on real life events? Not relevant

Victor involved in any way with the movie business? No
Victor know anyone involved in the movie business? No
Brian Pamandanan (Sciguy47)
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 3:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he wrong?
Brian Pamandanan (Sciguy47)
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 7:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he a hacker?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 11:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he lying?
Had Victor seen the movie? somewhere other than in a theatre?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 3:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he wrong? He described a basic outline of the movie, and the overall idea of the ending, and his description was accurate

Was he a hacker? No

Was he lying? No
Had Victor seen the movie? No
somewhere other than in a theatre? N/A
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 3:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it a prequel?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 3:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it a prequel? No - it wasn't connected to any other movies past or present (or future, for that matter)
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 3:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Victor use anything other than the poster and his mind to come up with the plot and 'secret ending'?

Was his thought process a logical one through simply analysing the poster?

Is this an actual film which has actually been shown in cinemas? Is this an actual movie poster?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 4:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Victor use anything other than the poster and his mind to come up with the plot and 'secret ending'? Yes

Was his thought process a logical one through simply analysing the poster? No - he wouldn't have needed to see the poster in order to describe the movie

Is this an actual film which has actually been shown in cinemas? Is this an actual movie poster?
Can you rephrase these q's? I assume you are asking in context of the puzzle, and not in real life...if this is the case, see if there's any other way you can ask these questions.
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 7:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the title relevant? does it refer to something about which victor had some knowledge?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 8:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the title relevant? Nah - more of a red herring than anything else
does it refer to something about which victor had some knowledge? No
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 9:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

had he read the book it was based on?
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 9:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this an actual film which has actually been shown in cinemas? Is this an actual movie poster?

I did actually mean in real life. In other words: Is this puzzle taken from something that may have already happened in real life?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 9:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

had he read the book it was based on? No

Is this an actual film which has actually been shown in cinemas? Is this an actual movie poster?
No - this is purely from imagination
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 1:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he know for certain that his description was accurate?

Was the film typical of its genre? was the "secret ending" gimmick typical of this genre?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 1:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I should re-phrase my question - I meant, is the title of the film relevant, not is the title of the puzzle relevant. Although my guess is that if the film's title was relevant, you would have assumed that's what I was asking about, so...

You mentioned he did use something other than poster + brain to come up with the movie's plot. Had he read, seen, or heard about the movie elsewhere? Viewed a commercial or movie trailer?

If he had some experience of the movie before the poster, was it seen on paper? On-screen (computer, TV, or film)? Heard on radio? Communicated to him in person?

Genre:
Comedy
Drama
Suspense/Mystery
Thriller/Action/Adventure
Horror
Biopic
Non-fiction
Musical
Pornography
Children's
??
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 11:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the movie based on real life events? for example Titanic, which most people would have known the rough plot of, and the 'secret ending' could have been some sort of twist, i.e. Titanic didn't hit the iceberg after all and unfortunately Leonardo Di Caprio survived!?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 4:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he know for certain that his description was accurate? Yes
Was the film typical of its genre? Irrelevant
was the "secret ending" gimmick typical of this genre? Assume so, but irrelevant


You mentioned he did use something other than poster + brain to come up with the movie's plot. Had he read, seen, or heard about the movie elsewhere? Through ordinary means available to the public, yes
Viewed a commercial or movie trailer? Likely, but this wouldn't have put him at any advantage

If he had some experience of the movie before the poster, was it seen on paper? No
On-screen (computer, TV, or film)? No
Heard on radio? No
Communicated to him in person? Yes-ish, this could be said but indirectly


Genre:
Comedy Perhaps
Drama Perhaps
Suspense/Mystery More likely
Thriller/Action/Adventure Most likely
Horror Very likely
Biopic Hmmm...maybe?
Non-fiction Irrelevant
Musical More likely
Pornography Irrelevant
Children's ?? Possibly

I don't mean to mislead, but there is really only one helpful aspect of the film relative to the genre. It is not necessary to assign or discover only one genre in order to solve the puzzle.
Batman (Ashusharma)
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 5:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Had Victor seen a shooting of the movie?
Did he know (or was) one or more actors in the movie?
Could Victor's girlfriend also possibly have known the movie's plot had she been attentive enough somewhere?