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Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 3:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Fred Z (Dref) on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 01:41 am:

Did the gun have a silencer on it? relevant? No to both

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 03:12 pm:

Was the gun worth the equivalent of 1200 GBP?
Relevant? Yes to both
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 9:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That sounds like an expensive gun, even given my relative lack of experience with them...

Did anything happen to the gun other than it being (presumably) taken from Tony?

Relevant where he got it?

Was there anything special about it that made it worth $2,500?
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 9:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 09:06 pm:

That sounds like an expensive gun, even given my relative lack of experience with them...

Did anything happen to the gun other than it being (presumably) taken from Tony? Other than being entered into evidence, you mean? Yes, but not used for a crime or anything...guessing the rest of the puzzle will give you this piece, but not the other way around.

Relevant where he got it? Not specifically, but method is slightly relevant

Was there anything special about it that made it worth $2,500? Probably, but not relevant.
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 10:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the gun confiscated?
Was it damaged?
Was it stolen?
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 11:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Monday, March 07, 2005 - 10:35 pm:

Was the gun confiscated? Yes, the police took it from him. And then....
Was it damaged?
Was it stolen? Neither of these
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 1:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the police lose it?
Sell it?
Use it to offset the money he stole?
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 3:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 01:03 am:

Did the police lose it?
Sell it?
Use it to offset the money he stole? No to all
Jens Weber (Sundowner)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 6:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he want the gun back? but the police did not like this idea and decided to buy the money off from him?
Or did he keep 1200 quid as compensation for the gun?
Or did the gun belong to someone else?
Would the gun enter into the bank's property after the trial?
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 8:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Jens Weber (Sundowner) on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 06:52 pm:

Did he want the gun back? yes but the police did not like this idea and decided to buy the money gun? off from him? no
Or did he keep 1200 quid as compensation for the gun? yesish, but why?
Or did the gun belong to someone else? No
Would the gun enter into the bank's property after the trial? No
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 8:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they want this gun as evidence in some other case? were they thinking of using it for some other purpose?
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 8:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By David Burn (Woubit) on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 08:37 pm:

Did they want this gun as evidence in some other case? no were they thinking of using it for some other purpose? no

HINT:The gun was ultimately returned to Tony
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 3:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it a real, working firearm? Had he inherited it? Stolen it? Bought it? Made it? Found it? Was it an antique?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 3:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the gun broken or damaged while the police had it? Did they perform any actions on the gun, or do anything whatever with it besides store it as evidence?

Was the gun made from common gun materials? Was it loaded with regular bullets? Was it connected to anything else in any way?
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 3:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 03:01 pm:

Was it a real, working firearm? Yes Had he inherited it? Stolen it? Bought it? This one Made it? Found it? Was it an antique? No

By (Stuccosalt) on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 03:11 pm:

Was the gun broken or damaged while the police had it? No Did they perform any actions on the gun, or do anything whatever with it besides store it as evidence? No

Was the gun made from common gun materials? Yes Was it loaded with regular bullets? Yes Was it connected to anything else in any way? If I understand you....literally connected?, No
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 11:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I would think (assume, even) that a weapon used in the commission of a crime wouldn't ordinarily be returned to the perpetrator, so were there special circumstances that led to his recovering the gun? If so, were they legal?

Did he have a special need for the gun? Was it his personal weapon?

Did he return the remaining money when he got the gun back?
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 11:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Wednesday, March 09, 2005 - 11:52 pm:

I would think (assume, even) that a weapon used in the commission of a crime wouldn't ordinarily be returned to the perpetrator, so were there special circumstances that led to his recovering the gun? If so, were they legal? When he finished serving the penalty for his crime (the extent of which is not particularly relevant), the gun was returned to him.

Did he have a special need for the gun? no Was it his personal weapon? yes

Did he return the remaining money when he got the gun back? no

HINT: Concentrate on the legal process.
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 4:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are there laws about guns which obliged them to return the weapon? Or laws about confiscated property worth more than a certain amount? Or laws about confiscated property in general?

Such that the gubmint is obliged to reimburse the confiscatee?
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 6:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 04:49 pm:

Are there laws about guns which obliged them to return the weapon? It was returned because it belonged to him Or laws about confiscated property worth more than a certain amount? No Or laws about confiscated property in general? Not exactly

Such that the gubmint is obliged to reimburse the confiscatee? No, but this is along the right track. Explore
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 6:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is/are there (a) law(s) about evidence being returned to the person from whom it was acquired? Intended to ensure that victims/innocent bystanders etc. don't lose their property when it's used as evidence?
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 8:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 06:28 pm:

Is/are there (a) law(s) about evidence being returned to the person from whom it was acquired? Yes, in this case, there is, but that is a side point. The gun being returned has nothing to do with why Tony was charged with a lesser crime. Intended to ensure that victims/innocent bystanders etc. don't lose their property when it's used as evidence? Yes
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 3:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it relevant in which country Tony committed this crime?

Is/was there a different category of crime (e. g. felony vs. misdemeanor) which Tony was charged with due to the difference? Is Tony's age relevant? His family? His ethnicity? Religion? Sexual orientation? Polydactyl state? Rhinohirsuteness? Health?
Chuck Raby (Wildcard)
Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 3:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 03:03 pm:

Is it relevant in which country Tony committed this crime? Because it is a true story, yes. The Netherlands

Is/was there a different category of crime (e. g. felony vs. misdemeanor) which Tony was charged with due to the difference? No Is Tony's age relevant? His family? His ethnicity? Religion? Sexual orientation? Polydactyl state? Rhinohirsuteness? Health? none of these...the same thing would have happened if he was a underage asian Catholic gay hipto--hip...oh you get the idea.