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| Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
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A man took a needle into a place of business in order to save himself some money. How? | ||
| John Morahan (Wunderland)
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Sewing needle? knitting needle? hypodermic needle? Was he an employee? customer? thief? Was the place of business a bank? a pharmacy? anything to do with clothing? | ||
| Kapil Kapur (Dinkie)
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was he piercing something did he normally take a needle there ? | ||
| Alizon (Alizon)
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Was it his place of business? Someone other's? Did the needle have something to do with the business activities usual at this place? Was what he did legal? | ||
| Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
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Sewing needle? this one, although it doesn't really matter, as long as it was somewhat needle-ish...a safety pin would have done, really. knitting needle? hypodermic needle? Was he an employee? customer? this thief? Was the place of business a bank? a pharmacy? anything to do with clothing? none of these was he piercing something? yes did he normally take a needle there ? Irrelevant. If he had done it regularly, he would have saved money regularly. Was it his place of business? no Someone other's? yes Did the needle have something to do with the business activities usual at this place? If by this you mean was it normal to bring a needle to this place, then no. Was what he did legal? yes | ||
| Sam Greene (Pandora)
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Place of business = a shop? a car dealership? An office? A place of entertainment? a place of leisure? a pub? a nightclub? Did he pierce something to redcue an item in monetary value and was therefore offered a discount if he bought it? Was he asked to pierce something? by someone who worked at the place of business? | ||
| Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
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Place of business = a shop? a car dealership? An office? A place of entertainment? a place of leisure? a pub? a nightclub? none of these Did he pierce something to redcue an item in monetary value and was therefore offered a discount if he bought it? no Was he asked to pierce something? no by someone who worked at the place of business? no | ||
| John Morahan (Wunderland)
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The thing that he pierced: was it a product for sale? a fixture in the place? something he brought with him? something organic? alive? Did he bring the needle in his hand? in his pocket? in a bag? in another container? was it already piercing something when he brought it in? | ||
| Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
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The thing that he pierced: was it a product for sale? no a fixture in the place? no something he brought with him? no something organic? alive? no to both Did he bring the needle in his hand? in his pocket? in a bag? in another container? irrelevant was it already piercing something when he brought it in? not necessarily | ||
| John Morahan (Wunderland)
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Was he there to buy a product? avail of a service? did he pay less than he would have otherwise? or did he get more value for the same price? did he pay at all? Did he pierce something with the needle? before entering the place? on his way in? while inside? on his way out? after leaving? | ||
| Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
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Was he there to buy a product? yes avail of a service? no-ish did he pay less than he would have otherwise? yes or did he get more value for the same price? no did he pay at all? he did Did he pierce something with the needle? yes before entering the place? no on his way in? no while inside? yes on his way out? no after leaving? no | ||
| John Morahan (Wunderland)
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Did he pierce the thing in order to let something in? or out? air? another gas? water? another liquid? light? or was it to hold something in place? mark the position of something? The thing that he pierced was already in the place, but it wasn't a fixture or a product for sale? was it a display model? something belonging to another customer? something belonging to the owner of the place? money? Was there anyone else there at the time? employee(s)? other customer(s)? others? did they see the needle? did they see him pierce the thing? did they see that it had been pierced? did they realize that he had pierced it? did they understand why? | ||
| Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
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Did he pierce the thing in order to let something in? yes or out? no air? yes another gas? water? another liquid? light? or was it to hold something in place? mark the position of something? no to rest The thing that he pierced was already in the place, but it wasn't a fixture or a product for sale? correct was it a display model? something belonging to another customer? something belonging to the owner of the place? money? no to all of these Was there anyone else there at the time? employee(s)? other customer(s)? others? did they see the needle? did they see him pierce the thing? did they see that it had been pierced? did they realize that he had pierced it? did they understand why? and all of these are irrelevant | ||
| Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
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CORRECTION The place IS more or less a place of leisure...I think I accidentally skipped over that question. | ||
| John Morahan (Wunderland)
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The thing he was there to buy: did he buy it? did he take it with him when he left? The thing he pierced: did it have a (partial) vacuum inside it? or did he (or someone else) force air into it? Who owned the thing he pierced: himself? an employee of the place? the government? someone else entirely? more than one person? nobody at all? did it change hands? Without the needle, would he have spent: less than $10? $100? $1000? By using the needle, did he save: less than 5%? 10%? 20%? 50%? | ||
| Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
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The thing he was there to buy: did he buy it? yes did he take it with him when he left? um...yes, in a sense The thing he pierced: did it have a (partial) vacuum inside it? not yet or did he (or someone else) force air into it? yes, but that may be kind of misleading Who owned the thing he pierced: himself? at the time when he pierced it, he did... an employee of the place? the government? someone else entirely? more than one person? nobody at all? did it change hands? before he had come in the store, the place of business owned it Without the needle, would he have spent: less than $10? less than ten, yes $100? $1000? By using the needle, did he save: less than 5%? 10%? maybe about this 20%? 50%? | ||
| John Morahan (Wunderland)
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Was the thing he bought some kind of food? or drink? did he eat/drink it while in the place? The thing he pierced: did it have an inside and an outside in the usual sense? Did he? or someone else? force air into it: while in the place of business? other than by using the needle to create a hole through which an already-existing pressure difference would force air into it? did he take it with him when he left? | ||
| Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
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Was the thing he bought some kind of food? this too, but... or drink? YES did he eat/drink it while in the place? yes The thing he pierced: did it have an inside and an outside in the usual sense? pretty much Did he? yes or someone else? no force air into it: while in the place of business? yes other than by using the needle to create a hole through which an already-existing pressure difference would force air into it? he used a different means did he take it with him when he left? no | ||
| John Morahan (Wunderland)
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The drink: milk? alcohol? fruit juice? soup? relevant exactly what it is? The thing he pierced: something that was given to him with the drink? which he would discard after drinking it? a disposable cup? Did he spend any money other than on the drink? or would he have, without the needle? | ||
| Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
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The drink: milk? alcohol? fruit juice? soup? relevant exactly what it is? no not really relevant The thing he pierced: something that was given to him with the drink? yes which he would discard after drinking it? yes a disposable cup? no Did he spend any money other than on the drink? maybe on food, but that's it or would he have, without the needle? yes, he would probably have spent money on something else | ||
| John Morahan (Wunderland)
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Is the temperature of the drink relevant? if so, was it hot? or cold? Did he force air into the thing: through the hole created by the needle? by blowing? Was the thing in contact with the drink at the time he forced air into it? was it in contact with the cup? Did he pierce the item: before ordering the drink? before starting to drink? while drinking? after drinking? before paying? while paying? after paying? Did he force air into it: before ordering the drink? before starting to drink? while drinking? after drinking? before paying? while paying? after paying? after piercing the item? | ||
| Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
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Is the temperature of the drink relevant? if so, was it hot? or cold? not relevant Did he force air into the thing: through the hole created by the needle? no, actually by blowing? very much no Was the thing in contact with the drink at the time he forced air into it? yes was it in contact with the cup? not necessarily Did he pierce the item: before ordering the drink? no before starting to drink? yes while drinking? no after drinking? no before paying? yes while paying? no after paying? no Did he force air into it: before ordering the drink? no before starting to drink? no while drinking? yes after drinking? no before paying? yes while paying? after paying? no to these after piercing the item? yes so to recap all of these tense questions: He received his drink, pierced the item that came with the drink, forced air into the item, which was in the drink, while drinking, and payed later. | ||
| John Morahan (Wunderland)
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Did he force air into it through an already existing hole, by sucking air (or drink) through the hole he had just created? Was it a straw? | ||
| Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
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Did he force air into it through an already existing hole, by sucking air (or drink) through the hole he had just created? yes Was it a straw? YES | ||
| John Morahan (Wunderland)
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So he uses a needle to pierce a hole in a straw, sucks air? or drink? or both? through the hole, and causes air to be sucked into the straw, and thereby avoids spending money on something else? Was it actually a straw to begin with? or did he make it into a straw by making the extra hole? and thereby avoid paying for an actual straw?!? Was the place a restaurant? | ||
| Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
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So he uses a needle to pierce a hole in a straw, sucks air? or drink? or both? yes, both through the hole, and causes air to be sucked into the straw, and thereby avoids spending money on something else? yes Was it actually a straw to begin with? yes or did he make it into a straw by making the extra hole? no and thereby avoid paying for an actual straw?!? fortunately, this place did not charge for straws Was the place a restaurant? yes | ||
| John Morahan (Wunderland)
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The other thing he would have had to spend money on: was it a product? a service? would most of the restaurant's customers have to pay for the same thing? Is he trying to avoid giving a tip? | ||
| Kapil Kapur (Dinkie)
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was he trying not to buy alocohol ? | ||
| Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
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The other thing he would have had to spend money on: was it a product? yes a service? no would most of the restaurant's customers have to pay for the same thing? not necessarily, but some might Is he trying to avoid giving a tip? no was he trying not to buy alocohol? not necessarily alchohol, but yes, he was trying to avoid buying more drink. Now just figure out exactly how puncturing the straw helped him to avoid buying more drink. | ||
| John Morahan (Wunderland)
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Was he trying to make the drink last longer? make himself less thirsty? or was he trying to avoid buying a drink for someone else? Is it relevant what food he was eating? | ||
| Brian Hobbs (Paradox)
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Was he trying to make the drink last longer? yes ********SPOILER********* The man went to a restaurant that didn't offer free refills and ordered a drink with his meal. He always had a habit of absent-mindedly drinking his drinks too fast, and they would never last him through much of the meal; he would always get thirsty and order another one. So the man brought a needle into the restaurant and punctured a hole in the straw that came with the drink. Thus, it was more difficult to get a big mouthful of drink through the straw because of the air that leaked in, and so it allowed him to slow his drinking speed and helped the drink to last through the whole meal. Kind of an odd thing to do, I know, but I actually did this once, not with a needle, but with a knife, and it did really make the drink last longer. | ||
| John Morahan (Wunderland)
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Interesting idea. I always drink too fast myself, maybe I should try this. Nice puzzle |
