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Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 12:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This process that OH designed: did it involve manual labour? Would it be performed by people wearing these balloon hats?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 12:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 12:10 am:

This process that OH designed: did it involve manual labour? yes Would it be performed by people wearing these balloon hats? no
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 10:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Should we figure out more about how these balloon hats were manufactured?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 10:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 10:46 am:

Should we figure out more about how these balloon hats were manufactured? most certainly :)
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 10:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Presumably, they were made mostly of fabric? Were there any other significant components involved? Was there some sort of framework (of metal or something) to help them keep their shape?

This manufacturing process: was it done mostly manually? Was there any relevant machinery involved? If qualified people with the necessary tools were manufacturing exactly one of these hats, would the relevant aspect of the process still be employed?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 10:58 am:

Presumably, they were made mostly of fabric? indeed Were there any other significant components involved? yes Was there some sort of framework (of metal or something) to help them keep their shape? very much so :)

This manufacturing process: was it done mostly manually? yes Was there any relevant machinery involved? yes If qualified people with the necessary tools were manufacturing exactly one of these hats, would the relevant aspect of the process still be employed? yes. Good questions.
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it accurate to speak of the "relevant aspect of the process", actually?

If so, does this aspect relate to the manufacture of the fabric part? of the metal(?) part? to the attachment of the one to the other?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:03 am:

Is it accurate to speak of the "relevant aspect of the process", actually? I would think so, yes

If so, does this aspect relate to the manufacture of the fabric part? of the metal(?) part? this one to the attachment of the one to the other? and to some extent, this one
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So this framework is actually made of metal? Should we find out more about exactly what it looks like? Does it have little holes or eyes at the points at which the fabric is attached?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:09 am:

So this framework is actually made of metal? mostly, yes Should we find out more about exactly what it looks like? it looks exactly like a framework that would support a bonnet that looked somewhat like a hot-air balloon Does it have little holes or eyes at the points at which the fabric is attached? I do not know, and it does not matter
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it relevant what else the framework is made of?

Did these balloon hats exist before the relevant manufacturing process was developed? If so, did the development of the process make the hats lighter? sturdier? more comfortable? bigger? faster to make? cheaper to make?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:17 am:

Is it relevant what else the framework is made of? very much so

Did these balloon hats exist before the relevant manufacturing process was developed? I don't think so, but see below, since I am getting a bit confused :( If so, did the development of the process make the hats lighter? sturdier? this is relevant, at any rate more comfortable? bigger? faster to make? cheaper to make?

***** REFOCUS *****

Our Hero has developed a process for manufacturing something.

This process is based on a process that was used in the manufacture of hats.

Since I am a bit unsure which of these is the "relevant process" in some recent questions, may I suggest that Our Hero's process be called "OHP" and the hat-manufacturing process be called "HMP". I am aware that this may cause further confusion should it transpire that overhead projectors or Her Majesty's Prisons are relevant to the puzzle, so I may as well assure you that this is not the case.

OHP has nothing to do with hats; it involves the manufacture (by a combination of manual work and machinery) of something that is in turn used in the manufacture of a wide variety of other objects.

HMP has to do with the manufacture (chiefly by manual work, though assited by machinery) of the fraework to support a particular kind of bonnet that resembles a hot-air balloon.
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This other material: wood? glue? rubber? animal-based material? plant-based material? mineral-based material?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:28 am:

This other material: wood? glue? rubber? animal-based material? plant-based material? this one mineral-based material?
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

String-like stuff? Does this material have the function of holding the metal bits together?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:33 am:

String-like stuff? yes Does this material have the function of holding the metal bits together? no
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

String? thread? rope? twine? Does the exact material out of which the stuff is made matter?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 12:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:59 am:


String? thread? this one rope? twine? Does the exact material out of which the stuff is made matter? a little, but not to the extent that it's worth spending a lot of time on, so I will tell you that it was cotton
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 5:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the cotton thread what holds the fabric to the metal frame? Does the cotton thread serve another function besides that? Does it help the frame itself keep its shape somehow?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 5:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 05:16 pm:

Is the cotton thread what holds the fabric to the metal frame? no Does the cotton thread serve another function besides that? yes Does it help the frame itself keep its shape somehow? no - the metal does that, but...
Johanna (Buzzard)
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 11:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the string form (rough) circles around the perimeter of the balloon? arches over the top of the balloon? Is it mostly found in the part of the hat closest to the head?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 11:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Johanna (Buzzard) on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 11:06 am:

Does the string form (rough) circles around the perimeter of the balloon? no And it arches over the top of the balloon? no Is it mostly found in the part of the hat closest to the head? closest to which part of the head? But to save further effort, the cotton thread is to be found in the part of the hat closest to the forehead and the nape of the neck, rather than the top of the skull.