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Kapil Kapur (Dinkie)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 3:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

are they aware of typewriters /computers ?
would they use computers /typewriters ?
is there a power supply near by ?
can they make use of these power supplies ?
are they under water ?
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 4:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The locations where these people can be found -- are they offices? Homes? Places of leisure/recreation? Other? Indoors? Outdoors? Are they the same type of place generally? The same type exactly?

Are there more than one of this group of people at one specific location? Are there other people there who are not members of this group?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 4:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Sam Greene (Pandora) on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 03:34 pm:

Do the people in this group know each other? some of them do
Are they partaking in some kind of test or experiment? no Do they suffer from a condition rather than in illness? I would say so Do their brains function as well as a 'normal' persons' would? yes
Do these people have the physical ability to type? yes

By Kapil Kapur (Dinkie) on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 03:43 pm:

are they aware of typewriters /computers ? very much so
would they use computers /typewriters ? the former is the relevant one, and yes, they would use them
is there a power supply near by ? yes
can they make use of these power supplies ? yes
are they under water ? no
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 4:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 04:06 pm:

The locations where these people can be found -- are they offices? perhaps Homes? perhaps Places of leisure/recreation? less usually Other? less usually Indoors? far more often than not Outdoors? far less often than not Are they the same type of place generally? no, but they have a common feature... The same type exactly? no

Are there more than one of this group of people at one specific location? yes, but there would be only one relevant person Are there other people there who are not members of this group? perhaps, but this does not matter
Kapil Kapur (Dinkie)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 4:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

are they in the dark ?
are they underground ?
can all the people in the group see / hear each other ?
are they aware of each other ?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 4:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So does that mean that only one of them is typing? Are they holding hands, communicating with their hands, or doing some other activity that at least partially occupies their hands?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 4:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Kapil Kapur (Dinkie) on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 04:19 pm:

are they in the dark ? some of them may be, but this does not matter
are they underground ? most unlikely
can all the people in the group see / hear each other ? none of them can see nor hear any of the others - good question :)
are they aware of each other ? some of them know of one another's existence in the general sense, yes. But the group could, for the purposes of the puzzle, comprise people who were total strangers to one another.

By (Stuccosalt) on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 04:22 pm:

So does that mean that only one of them is typing? all of them are, in fact, typing during the events relevant to the puzzle Are they holding hands, communicating with their hands, or doing some other activity that at least partially occupies their hands? see above - they are not physically in the same place at all
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 5:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So the people in the group are typing, but there is some reason that it is surprising that they are able to do so?

Are they typing as part of some larger task? Is this a part of their jobs? Do they all have the same occupation? Is this relevant?

Does the 'condition' which would seem to prevent typing exist during the whole of the larger task (if any)? If not, does it last for minutes? hours? days? longer? Is it brought on or ended by some event? Does it last for longer than the need to type, or permanently? If so, does it manifest itself in other ways when there is no need to type?
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 5:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The 'feature' that the places have in common -- this is relevant, surely?

If so, is it a physical feature? some feature having to do with the way the place is used? the way it is arranged? the people who are there? the things that are there? the computers on which the typing is supposed to be done?

Is geography involved?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 5:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 05:17 pm:

So the people in the group are typing, but there is some reason that it is surprising that they are able to do so? exactly and precisely so :) Oh, and welcome to the forum, Mosquito :)

Are they typing as part of some larger task? yesish Is this a part of their jobs? no Do they all have the same occupation? no Is this relevant? not really

Does the 'condition' which would seem to prevent typing exist during the whole of the larger task (if any)? yes If not, does it last for minutes? hours? days? longer? Is it brought on or ended by some event? yes Does it last for longer than the need to type, or permanently? It lasts for as long as the need to type lasts. If so, does it manifest itself in other ways when there is no need to type? no

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 05:20 pm:

The 'feature' that the places have in common -- this is relevant, surely? it is

If so, is it a physical feature? yesish some feature having to do with the way the place is used? yesish the way it is arranged? not really the people who are there? yesish the things that are there? yes the computers on which the typing is supposed to be done? bingo - the "feature" is exactly that all these places contain computers on which the typing is supposed to be done. Now then...

Is geography involved? no
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 6:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the content of the typing relevant? Is this content similar for all members of the group? Is it anything to do with the Internet -- e-mails, newsgroup posts, Lateral Puzzles fora, webpages, other? Are they typing words or playing on a server or otherwise using a keyboard not primarily to produce text?

Are they typing for information, entertainment (their own or someone else's), other? Are additional people typing similarly, but not affected by the condition that the group are affected by?

The computers -- they are all in working order and comprise all the necessary components?

Do you know any of these people? Some of them? All of them?

Is your misspelt name relevant?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 6:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 06:17 pm:

Is the content of the typing relevant? no, but the context is Is this content similar for all members of the group? ditto Is it anything to do with the Internet yes, indeed -- e-mails, newsgroup posts, Lateral Puzzles fora, webpages, other? this one Are they typing words or playing on a server or otherwise using a keyboard not primarily to produce text? be careful with this kind of question :) But since you're new here, they are typing words in order to produce text.

Are they typing for information, perhaps entertainment perhaps (their own or someone else's), other? not really Are additional people typing similarly, but not affected by the condition that the group are affected by? no

The computers -- they are all in working order and comprise all the necessary components? they are, and they do

Do you know any of these people? yes Some of them? All of them? this one

Is your misspelt name relevant? that, and the garbled puzzle title, were a feeble attempt to type under the condition relevant to the puzzle
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 6:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

(Woubit)

\i {Oh, and welcome to the forum, Mosquito}

Thanks.

So the event that brings on the condition is, or coincides with, the need to type?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 6:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 06:24 pm:


So the event that brings on the condition is no or coincides with, the need to type? so it would appear, yes
Kapil Kapur (Dinkie)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 9:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

are people typing in a hurry ?
perhaps they are at work and don't want to be seen typing ? as this is considered a non core activity ?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 11:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Kapil Kapur (Dinkie) on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 09:09 pm:

are people typing in a hurry ? not necessarily, and it does not matter
perhaps they are at work and don't want to be seen typing ? as this is considered a non core activity ? not this kind of thing, sorry :(
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 11:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so...something happens, and the (members of the? whole?) group need to type...and at the same time some (other? same?) something renders them nearly incapable of typing, but not quite? Is this a coincidence?

Is it relevant that you know all of the people in this group, but they don't all know each other? Is it relevant in what context you know them? Is it the same? or a similar? context for each? Are you a member of this group?

It looks like the event that brings on the urge to type is relevant...Does something happen that makes typing an immediate? urgent? pretty important? priority? Is this 'happening' communicated via the computer? or otherwise? could a group member sit on the lanai all day drinking mint juleps, and not worry about having to type?

does the content matter at all then? If so, have to do with entertainment? current events? Science? technology? the arts? sex? gardening? budgerigar husbandry? crime? politics?

So, is the context (see, now I am having a little bit of difficulty unravelling 'context' and 'content' completely...) an 'external' topic like in the last paragraph, or is it more intrinsic to the people who are typing, as in the last but one? does it have to do with their interactions with each other? or with others (non-group members)? Is it time-sensitive? Would the failure to type injure the typist? Some non-typist? for each, would it involve a loss of some benefit? some pleasure? some useful info? something to chuckle about? something else? nothing?

Does the typing enable some benefit? some pleasure? some useful info? something to chuckle about? something else? nothing?

Is there anything else in the locations that is relevant besides the presence of a working computer in each? could there be two relevant members of the group in a room if they had a network? Would their ability to communicate directly have any bearing on the problem?

Is the membership of the group closed? Do members move in and out? In but not out, or vice versa? Would joining the group be a big disappointment? leaving it? do they have any connexion with each other besides the intermittent(?) need to type on their computers in a similar context? is their 'condition' contingent on the immediately preceding, or on something else? Are others who are not typing similarly affected by the conditon? Would anyone automatically become a group member on the basis of needing or wanting to type in the same context? Is the latter at all likely to happen? Could a person become a member in some other way?

Are they typing documents? something else? for publication? on the web? for real? are they responding to contributions by others? do they interact via their typing? In any other way? Could they remain group members if they were the only one?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 11:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 11:26 pm:

so...something happens not necessarily and the (members of the? this one whole?) group need to type...not "need to", but "want to" and at the same time some (other? same?) something renders them nearly incapable of typing, but not quite? well, the implication is that those who want to type cannot do so Is this a coincidence? no

Is it relevant that you know all of the people in this group, yes but they don't all know each other? no Is it relevant in what context you know them? yes Is it the same? this one or a similar? context for each? Are you a member of this group? no, but...

It looks like the event that brings on the urge to type is relevant...not especially Does something happen that makes typing an immediate? urgent? pretty important? priority? again, it is a question of wanting to type, not needing to type Is this 'happening' communicated via the computer? there is no specific event that triggers the desire to type. The typing is, however, communicated via computers or otherwise? see above could a group member sit on the lanai all day drinking mint juleps, and not worry about having to type? yes, but then this condition would not occur

does the content matter at all then? no If so, have to do with entertainment? current events? Science? technology? the arts? sex? gardening? budgerigar husbandry? crime? politics? it might encompass all of these and more

So, is the context (see, now I am having a little bit of difficulty unravelling 'context' and 'content' completely...) an 'external' topic like in the last paragraph, or is it more intrinsic to the people who are typing, as in the last but one? the "context" is that the people involved are sitting at their computers typing. How they are able to type at all is, however, something of a mystery does it have to do with their interactions with each other? yes or with others (non-group members)? no Is it time-sensitive? I do not know what this means Would the failure to type injure the typist? no Some non-typist? no for each, would it involve a loss of some benefit? some pleasure? some useful info? something to chuckle about? something else? the failure to type might involve none, some, or all of these nothing?

Does the typing enable some benefit? some pleasure? some useful info? something to chuckle about? something else? nothing? see above

Is there anything else in the locations that is relevant besides the presence of a working computer in each? no could there be two relevant members of the group in a room if they had a network? yes Would their ability to communicate directly have any bearing on the problem? no

Is the membership of the group closed? anyone with a computer could in theory join Do members move in and out? yes In but not out, or vice versa? see above Would joining the group be a big disappointment? very probably, but this is not relevant leaving it? that would be something of a relief, but again this is not relevant do they have any connexion with each other besides the intermittent(?) need to type on their computers in a similar context? some of them do is their 'condition' contingent on the immediately preceding, or on something else? I don't know what this means Are others who are not typing similarly affected by the conditon? no Would anyone automatically become a group member on the basis of needing or wanting to type in the same context? yes Is the latter at all likely to happen? I don't know what antecedent "the latter" has in this question Could a person become a member in some other way? no

Are they typing documents? something else? this one for publication? no on the web? for real? are they responding to contributions by others? yes do they interact via their typing? yes In any other way? no, not in the context of the puzzle Could they remain group members if they were the only one? apart from me? yes
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chatrooms? Instant messages?

Is it important that you are involved?
Does this have to do with one of your particular interests?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:49 am:

Chatrooms? Instant messages? this one - well done :)

Is it important that you are involved? this has never been known to be important since the dawn of time, and this puzzle is no exception
Does this have to do with one of your particular interests? no

Perhaps a very short

***** RECAP *****

The question has now boiled down to "How do they type?" where "they" refers to "people who send instant messages".
Arjun (Jun)
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 2:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

coz they seem 2 b using so many abbr's & wrong grammar 2?
David Burn (Woubit)
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By Arjun (Jun) on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 02:52 am:

coz they seem 2 b using so many abbr's & wrong grammar 2? no, but good thinking :)