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Dref (Dref)
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 5:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A man is found dead with a sword in his side. He has a guidebook clutched in one hand and a melted candle in the other. Gooop covers his feet and legs and a crown rests on his head.
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 10:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Dref, Emailed - but it's only a guess!
Kapil Kapur (Dinkie)
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 1:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

what is gooop ?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 4:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the sword kill him?
Is the guidebook the sort that a tourist might carry? is it a guide to the area? another area?
Is it dark? was it dark when he died? was he using the candle for illumination?
Does he also have a bell? did he try to exorcise something?
Is the gooop from the candle? is it blood? does it completely cover his feet and legs?
Was he a king? other royalty? is the crown valuable? is it his? was it on his head when he died?
Kapil Kapur (Dinkie)
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 4:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was he indoors or outdoors when he was found ?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 6:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

what is gooop ? Ah, that you must find out for yourself...

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 04:03 pm:

Did the sword kill him? yes
Is the guidebook the sort that a tourist might carry? yes is it a guide to the area? yes another area?
Is it dark? yes was it dark when he died? yes was he using the candle for illumination? yes
Does he also have a bell? did he try to exorcise something? no to both
Is the gooop from the candle? no is it blood? no does it completely cover his feet and legs? pretty much
Was he a king? no other royalty? no is the crown valuable? no is it his? no was it on his head when he died? yes

By Kapil Kapur (Dinkie) on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 04:05 pm:

was he indoors or outdoors when he was found ? indoors
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 7:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did someone stab him with the sword? or did he fall on it? is he lying down? does the sword go right through him and out the other side? if so, does it then go into something else?
Was he a tourist? was he lost?
Did the candle go out before he died? before he was stabbed (or otherwise encountered the sword)?
Is the gooop a solid? a liquid? a viscous fluid? would it prevent him from moving his legs, if he weren't already dead? did his legs become covered in gooop before he died? or after?
Was the crown: a headdress of any kind? part of a tooth? a coin? part of someone's head? part of a tree? a monarch? If he was stabbed, did the stabber mistake him for the owner of the crown?
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 9:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ummm...is this from a computer RPG?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 9:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did someone stab him with the sword? no or did he fall on it? no is he lying down? yes does the sword go right through him and out the other side? no if so, does it then go into something else?
Was he a tourist? yes was he lost? no
Did the candle go out before he died? no before he was stabbed (or otherwise encountered the sword)? no
Is the gooop a solid? yes a liquid? but formally this a viscous fluid? would it prevent him from moving his legs, if he weren't already dead? no did his legs become covered in gooop before he died? or after? this
Was the crown: a headdress of any kind? yes part of a tooth? a coin? part of someone's head? part of a tree? a monarch? If he was stabbed, did the stabber mistake him for the owner of the crown?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 9:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ummm...is this from a computer RPG? not this time, nope
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 9:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is this a crown in the normal, wear-it-on-your-head, royalty sense of the word?
Did the crown play any role in the man's death?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 9:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is this a crown in the normal, wear-it-on-your-head, royalty sense of the word? yes
Did the crown play any role in the man's death? no
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 9:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Accident? murder? suicide?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 9:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Accident? this murder? suicide?
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 9:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why is it that all the accident victims in your puzzles always die a particularly gruelsome and painful death?

Was the man in some one of thos throwbacks to medieval times amusement part/show/etc.?

Was he a room? If yes, were there others present in the room with him when he expired?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 9:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why is it that all the accident victims in your puzzles always die a particularly gruelsome and painful death? Do they? I never really noticed myself...

Was the man in some one of thos throwbacks to medieval times amusement part/show/etc.? no, but somewhat near the right forest...

Was he a room? yes If yes, were there others present in the room with him when he expired? no
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 10:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did our victim see his demise coming? Or "he didn't know what hit 'im", figuratively speaking?
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 11:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the guidebook relevant at all? Is it relevant that he was a tourist? and not familiar with the area? Did the candle play a part in his death at all?

Where did the sword come from: the victim's possession? a wall? the floor? the ceiling? someone else's possession?

Did the victim fall on the floor in dying? Or was he already on the floor when the dying began?

How long was he 'dying', so to speak, until he was dead - instantaneous death? seconds? minutes? seconds? minutes? hours? days?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 3:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the room booby-trapped?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 3:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did our victim see his demise coming? Or "he didn't know what hit 'im", figuratively speaking this

By Ed Mason (Logician) on Thursday, May 12, 2005 -11:34 pm:

Is the guidebook relevant at all? yes Is it relevant that he was a tourist? yes and not familiar with the area? no Did the candle play a part in his death at all? yes

Where did the sword come from: the victim's possession? a wall? the floor? the ceiling? someone else's possession? none of these! ;)

Did the victim fall on the floor in dying? yes Or was he already on the floor when the dying began?

How long was he 'dying', so to speak, until he was dead - instantaneous death? seconds? minutes? no more than a minute at the most seconds? minutes? hours? days?

By Benjamin Moore (Zenith) on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 03:10 am:

was the room booby-trapped? no
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 4:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the sword held by a mannequin or other inanimate humanoid? or a robot? did he walk into it? because it was too dark? or he was looking at the guidebook?
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 4:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he frightened by something (or someone?) shortly before his untimely demise?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Friday, May 13, 2005 - 7:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the sword held by a mannequin or other inanimate humanoid? YES or a robot? no did he walk into it? no because it was too dark? or he was looking at the guidebook?

By Haenlomal (Haenlomal) on Friday, May 13, 2005 -04:00 pm:

Was he frightened by something (or someone?) shortly before his untimely demise? no
Damien Sullivan (Docd)
Posted on Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 11:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the gooop wax?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 1:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

yes
Damien Sullivan (Docd)
Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 5:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the crown, the sword and the gooop all come from a melted wax statue of a medieval king?

If so, from one of those wax museums?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 5:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the crown, the sword and the gooop all come from a melted wax statue of a medieval king? no, but good try, explore

If so, from one of those wax museums?
Ian (Image)
Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 10:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

does the wax come from the candle?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 11:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

no
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 11:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the inanimate humanoid holding the sword, a wax statue?
Did the candle cause the wax to melt?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 2:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the inanimate humanoid holding the sword, a wax statue? yes
Did the candle cause the wax to melt? yes
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 7:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is he in a wax museum?
Did the wax melting cause the sword to fall and strike the man? Or, did the man somehow knock the statue over? did he trip over something in the dark?
Would he have died if he had not had the candle? the guidebook? the crown? if it had not been dark?
Did he obtain the crown elsewhere in the same building? it was not his - did he borrow it? steal it?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 11:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is he in a wax museum? yes
Did the wax melting cause the sword to fall and strike the man? this Or, did the man somehow knock the statue over? did he trip over something in the dark?
Would he have died if he had not had the candle? no the guidebook? no the crown? yes if it had not been dark? no
Did he obtain the crown elsewhere in the same building? yes it was not his - did he borrow it? this is closer steal it?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 9:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he place the crown on his head intentionally at all? did he even know it was there?
Did he hold the candle under the statue's arm? did he know the statue was there?
Did he fail to notice something because he was looking at the guidebook?
Did the guidebook catch fire at any point?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 11:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he place the crown on his head intentionally at all? yes did he even know it was there?
Did he hold the candle under the statue's arm? yes did he know the statue was there? no
Did he fail to notice something because he was looking at the guidebook? yes
Did the guidebook catch fire at any point? no
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2005 - 12:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he fail to notice the statue, because he was looking at the guidebook?
Was the museum closed? did he forget to leave? was he supposed to be there at all? did he sneak in? was there a power cut?
Did the crown belong to the museum? did it belong to another tourist? did he know whose it was? did he just pick it up from somewhere and try it on? is the crown relevant at all?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2005 - 3:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he fail to notice the statue, because he was looking at the guidebook? yes
Was the museum closed? yes did he forget to leave? yes was he supposed to be there at all? no did he sneak in? no was there a power cut? no
Did the crown belong to the museum? yes did it belong to another tourist? did he know whose it was? did he just pick it up from somewhere and try it on? yes is the crown relevant at all? not anymore, it was a hint about where this took place

Care to put it all together?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2005 - 3:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So a tourist visits a wax museum, and stays behind after it closes. He takes a crown and tries it on. It gets dark, he lights a candle, and continues to explore. Absorbed in his guidebook he fails to notice that his candle is melting the arm of a wax statue holding a sword. The arm falls, the sword strikes the man, and the candle continues to burn, melting the wax statue until it is nothing more than a puddle of gooop.
?
Dref (Dref)
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2005 - 11:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yup, that's about it. The tourist was accidentally locked in and was reading the guidebook to pass the time. Spoiler. Good job all participants!

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