| Author | Message | ||
| Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 09:35 pm: earlier I asked.. "for the victim to feel this blessing is it necessary that something else happen to them as well as the infertility? yes" this other thing - is it something unpleasant? no unasked for? no something pleasant? yes something linked to infertility? yes another health problem? no something to do with their finances? no their romantic relationship? yope the place they live? no is it relevant which country they live in? no would some countries not work? no is it relevant how old they are? yesish is it relevant whether they ever have any natural children? no is the blessing that, as sometimes happens, they have a natural child after adopting one? no are there some people in this situation who do not consider this factor to be a blessing? yes | ||
| Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
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is the blessing tha their relationship has been strengthened by going through the adversity of infertility together? could this blessing be acquired by having other adverse life events happen to a couple (rather than infertility)? | ||
| Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 09:56 pm: is the blessing tha their relationship has been strengthened by going through the adversity of infertility together? Nooooooooooooo. You should know me better than that.  I said this was an attitrude many victims had quite reasonably. I sure hope I'vegotten it across that I'm not an endorser of the "growth through adversity" line!!!!! could this blessing be acquired by having other adverse life events happen to a couple (rather than infertility)? yes | ||
| Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
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sorry - got carried away - I'm running out of ideas... is the strength of their relationship relevant? is the blessing that this is stronger? is the blessing that they have stayed together? | ||
| Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Monday, April 18, 2005 - 07:38 pm: sorry - got carried away - I'm running out of ideas...  !!!!!~~~ is the strength of their relationship relevant? no is the blessing that this is stronger? no is the blessing that they have stayed together? no | ||
| John Morahan (Wunderland)
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Age of the child when adopted relevant? | ||
| Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 03:55 am: Age of the child when adopted relevant? no | ||
| Ed Mason (Logician)
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Would this benefit also occur if the couple were gay, also meaning that they'd have to adopt? Is the race? colour? gender? of the infertile person relevant? Of the adopted child? Of the infertile person's partner? | ||
| Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Ed Mason (Logician) on Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 10:02 pm: Would this benefit also occur if the couple were gay, also meaning that they'd have to adopt? yes Is the race? no colour? no gender? no of the infertile person relevant? no Of the adopted child? no Of the infertile person's partner? no | ||
| Ed Mason (Logician)
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Is the blessing to do with the child's experiences as an adopted child? The parent's experiences in having adopted someone? For both questions, replace 'experiences' with 'something they didn't experience'. | ||
| Ed Mason (Logician)
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Are the child's biological parents' relevant? The 'home' that the adopted child left behind? | ||
| Johanna (Buzzard)
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Is it relevant that a couple can adopt a child when they are too old to have one naturally (even if they had been fertile)? So that they do not feel pressured to establish their careers and form a stable relationship by their early to mid thirties? | ||
| Kapil Kapur (Dinkie)
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is the health of the child / parents relevant ? | ||
| Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Ed Mason (Logician) on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 03:15 pm: Is the blessing to do with the child's experiences as an adopted child? yesish The parent's experiences in having adopted someone? yes For both questions, replace 'experiences' with 'something they didn't experience'. no By Ed Mason (Logician) on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 03:16 pm: Are the child's biological parents' relevant? no The 'home' that the adopted child left behind? no By Johanna (Buzzard) on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 08:02 pm: Is it relevant that a couple can adopt a child when they are too old to have one naturally (even if they had been fertile)? no So that they do not feel pressured to establish their careers and form a stable relationship by their early to mid thirties no | ||
| Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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y Kapil Kapur (Dinkie) on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 03:50 pm: is the health of the child / parents relevant ? no | ||
| Ed Mason (Logician)
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Do the parents' relevant experiences relate to their outlook on life? Do these experiences happen when the child is a certain age? Choice of schools? Parents' evenings? Do these experiences relate to other people's positive? negative? neutral? inquisitive? reactions to discovering that they have adopted? | ||
| Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Ed Mason (Logician) on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 12:22 am: Do the parents' relevant experiences relate to their outlook on life? yesish Do these experiences happen when the child is a certain age? no particular age Choice of schools? irrel Parents' evenings? relevant Do these experiences relate to other people's positive? negative? neutral? inquisitive? reactions to discovering that they have adopted? no to all | ||
| Birgitta Ericsson (Brid)
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Would the blessing also affect people who can get biological children but choose to adopt instead? or to have one biological child and one adopted? | ||
| Ed Mason (Logician)
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Is it relevant that, by adopting, the mother's body doesn't have to temporarily adapt to fit the baby? Is it relevant that it's (supposed to be) easier to adopt than to have a biological baby? Is it relevant that you can ethically choose factors about an adopted child, whilst to try and choose factors of a biological child is much more frowned upon? | ||
| Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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By Birgitta Ericsson (Brid) on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 07:27 am: Would the blessing also affect people who can get biological children but choose to adopt instead? yes or to have one biological child and one adopted? yes By Ed Mason (Logician) on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 04:46 pm: Is it relevant that, by adopting, the mother's body doesn't have to temporarily adapt to fit the baby? no Is it relevant that it's (supposed to be) easier to adopt than to have a biological baby? no Is it relevant that you can ethically choose factors about an adopted child, whilst to try and choose factors of a biological child is much more frowned upon? no | ||
| John Morahan (Wunderland)
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Something the parents would experience once? several times? regularly? continuously over an extended period? Is anyone else relevant other than the parents and child? | ||
| Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
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y John Morahan (Wunderland) on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:13 am: Something the parents would experience once? see next answer several times? ditto regularly? ditto continuously over an extended period? yes Is anyone else relevant other than the parents and child? no |
