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Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 10:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh no! A puzzle on my all time favorite game series ans I seem to have missed it! - Can't really remember MI1 Then try number two my good man, Guybrush visits this place in that delightful game.

In MI4 Herman Toothrot gets his memory back, is there a relevant detail in what he says to Guybrush when his memory returns? Are any of the notes around the island left by Herman relevant? a calender? No, sad to say I have yet to play MI4, so MI4 is very sadly irrel :(
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 11:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

are any of Herman's mind boggling ramblings or his silly questions about trees relevant? Is his sense of isolation from being marooned relevant?
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 5:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

are any of Herman's mind boggling ramblings or his silly questions about trees relevant? no, and the fact he dosen't wear pants is also not relevant Is his sense of isolation from being marooned relevant? no
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 5:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

no, and the fact he dosen't wear pants is also not relevant - I hadn't even noticed that!

Could we have a recap please!?
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 7:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

no, and the fact he doesn't wear pants is also not relevant - I hadn't even noticed that! yup, as mentioned in MI1:

Guybrush: Where are your pants?

Herman: What pants?

Also, I believe one of the cannibals refers to him as a "pantless weirdo."


Could we have a recap please!? Coming up...sometime later.... ;)
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 7:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Herman: What pants?

Also, I believe one of the cannibals refers to him as a "pantless weirdo."

Oh I see, In Britain we call pants trousers and pants are underwear, hence the confusion. I don't think LucasArts would have been able to get away with having Herman running around half starkers - A concept I'm sure we are all greatful for! :)
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 9:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Whew! Now I really am glad we got THAT cleared up! :)
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 10:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

RECAP

This is small detail is in regards to something mentioned by Herman Toothroot in MI1 and carried over to MI2. It regards Guybrush, a public place and something that has a quasi-tangible existence. The only items relevant in regard to Herman is his backstory of being marooned for so many years and something he did before his misfortune.
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 1:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Herman: What pants?"

I seem to recall that Herman had neither pants or trousers on, but thankfully he was wearing a pair of boxer shorts
:)
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 6:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To me, it looked like he was wearing a loincloth made out of twigs or something! ;)
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 1:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I wasn't looking that closely! ;-)

Is Elaine relevant? Did Guybrush have a relevant posession?

The public place = somewhere on Melee Island? Monkey Island? somewhere else?

Was something hidden? buried?
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 7:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I wasn't looking that closely! ;-) Hey, Guybrush brought it up first! :)

Is Elaine relevant? no Did Guybrush have a relevant posession? In MI2, YES

The public place = somewhere on Melee Island? Monkey Island? somewhere else? Another of the islands.

Was something hidden? buried? no to both
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 8:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Public place = Scab? Booty? Phat? Dinky?

The posession, was it a written document?
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 10:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Public place = Scab? here Booty? Phat? Dinky?

The posession, was it a written document? no
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 10:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Public place = Scab? Booty? Phat? here, sorry for the previous error Dinky?

The posession, was it a written document? no
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2005 - 11:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So, I've been haunting the used-software shops hoping to find a copy of this game, simply because it sounds so goofy/fun. But no luck.

The possession: tangible but with an intangible aspect, and it isn't exactly a possession. Have I got that right?

So, is it something that he loses? and finds? again? Loses and finds repeatedly? Loses but doesn't find? Has? or finds? but is keeping for someone else? (So he has it, but it isn't his?)
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 12:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So, I've been haunting the used-software shops hoping to find a copy of this game, simply because it sounds so goofy/fun. But no luck. Too bad, hope you find it sometime! There are also places to download it on the Internet, but by all means I would encourage you to buy it if you see it.

The possession: tangible but with an intangible aspect, and it isn't exactly a possession. Have I got that right? yes, for Herman's possession, what Guybrush has in MI2 is very tangible

So, is it something that he loses? and finds? again? Loses and finds repeatedly? Loses but doesn't find? Has? or finds? but is keeping for someone else? (So he has it, but it isn't his?) sorry, none of these
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 12:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Herman's not-quite-a-possession some aspect of Herman himself?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 1:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Herman's sort-of-posession and Guybrush's tangible posession the same thing? variations of the same thing?

Public place = The governors mansion? The cottage? the pier? the jail? the waterfall? the alleyway? the roulette wheel? The library?
Fred Z (Dref)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 12:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Herman's not-quite-a-possession some aspect of Herman himself? no

By Sam Greene (Pandora) on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 01:24 pm:

Is Herman's sort-of-posession and Guybrush's tangible posession the same thing? variations of the same thing? latter

Public place = The governors mansion? The cottage? the pier? the jail? the waterfall? the alleyway? the roulette wheel? The library? THIS
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 2:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it a lens? a book? on shipwrecks? The seamonkey relevant? was that Herman's ship?
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2005 - 2:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it a lens? a book? on shipwrecks? The seamonkey relevant? was that Herman's ship?