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David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 9:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Poor man. Maybe next time, someone will bring a camera.
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 9:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he do something spectacular and there is now no evidence?
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 10:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Or did he see something for which there is now no evidence?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 11:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lynne (Lynne) on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 09:42 pm:

Did he do something spectacular yes and there is now no evidence? there is some evidence

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 10:24 pm:

Or did he see something for which there is now no evidence? no, except insofar as he saw what he was doing :)
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 11:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Poor: financially? spiritually? or you being sympathetic?
Did he inflict something upon himself, an injury of some sort perhaps?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 11:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would photographic evidence be better? more convincing? than the evidence that now exists?
Ian (Image)
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 2:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he break a record of some sort?
Is this our current time period?
Is he alive at the beginning of the event? At the end?

Poor: Because he wasn't able to take benefit of something good? Because something bad happened?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 5:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tricia Harvey (Trixie) on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 11:34 pm:

Poor: financially? this one spiritually? or you being sympathetic? this also
Did he inflict something upon himself, an injury of some sort perhaps? no

By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab) on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 11:53 pm:

Would photographic evidence be better? more convincing? than the evidence that now exists? marginally, but that isn't quite the point...

By Ian (Image) on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 02:28 am:

Did he break a record of some sort? yes
Is this our current time period? yes
Is he alive at the beginning of the event? At the end? both of those

Poor: Because he wasn't able to take benefit of something good? this one - good questions Because something bad happened?
HotBod (Hotbod)
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 12:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If there was photographic evidence of his "deed" would it have helped him financially? in terms of popularity?

When you say "maybe next time", does it mean he most likely will try again?

Is what he did a part of his job? daily routine?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 12:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By HotBod (Hotbod) on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 12:45 pm:


If there was photographic evidence of his "deed" would it have helped him financially? this one in terms of popularity?

When you say "maybe next time", does it mean he most likely will try again? he will, but it is somewhat unlikely that he will succeed

Is what he did a part of his job? this one daily routine?
HotBod (Hotbod)
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 1:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The financial benefit would have come from his employer? Some other person? Agency?

What he managed to do was "once in a lifetime" kind of an oppurtunity?

Anyone else involved in the puzzle? If yes, SBQs for them?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 1:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By HotBod (Hotbod) on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 01:01 pm:

The financial benefit would have come from his employer? Some other person? Agency? this one

What he managed to do was "once in a lifetime" kind of an oppurtunity? well, what he did was exceptionally rare - it may be done again, but it is not at all likely

Anyone else involved in the puzzle? only peripherally If yes, SBQs for them? not really relevant
HotBod (Hotbod)
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 1:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Some kind of record keepres (like Guinness book of records) relevant?

Would the financial benefit have been given as a recognition of what he managed to achieve?

Did someone else actually get the benefit instead of him at the same time?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 1:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By HotBod (Hotbod) on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 01:22 pm:

Some kind of record keepres (like Guinness book of records) relevant? his achievement may well find its way into the Guinness Book of Records

Would the financial benefit have been given as a recognition of what he managed to achieve? yes

Did someone else actually get the benefit instead of him at the same time? no
HotBod (Hotbod)
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 1:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the achievement involve
-speed (How fast he did something?)
-length of time (For how much time he did something)
-distance
-weight
-quantity of output (Like number of words typed in a minute)
-some natural part of his body? (like nails etc)

What he achieved, was it done as a part of his job? Would his employer have been happy with his achievement?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 1:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By HotBod (Hotbod) on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 01:31 pm:

Did the achievement involve
-speed (How fast he did something?)
-length of time (For how much time he did something)
-distance
-weight
-quantity of output (Like number of words typed in a minute) this is closest, but not all that close
-some natural part of his body? (like nails etc)

What he achieved, was it done as a part of his job? yes Would his employer have been happy with his achievement? he is self-employed. He was happy with what he had done.
HotBod (Hotbod)
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 4:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The work that this man does is mainly done with his
-hands
-legs
-ears
-mouth
-nose
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 4:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By HotBod (Hotbod) on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 04:20 pm:


The work that this man does is mainly done with his
-hands this one
-legs and to a lesser extent, this one
-ears
-mouth
-nose
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 9:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was his deed performed mostly due to luck or coincidence? Knowledge? Or skill? Did his professionality increase the probability of achieving this record? By professional skill or knowledge? Or simply the sheer probability of him being at the right spot at the right time?
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 8:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the camera relevent in any other way other than recording an event?
In recording the event, would a video camera be necessary or would a simple camera suffice?
(i.e Is his achievement time based/ Involve sound or just produces a simple outcome which could be evident from a single photo?)

Does he play the piano?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 9:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Einar Berg (Grainbeer) on Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 09:59 am:

Was his deed performed mostly due to luck a modicum of this one or coincidence? Knowledge? Or skill? but almost entirely this one Did his professionality increase the probability of achieving this record? yes By professional skill this one or knowledge? Or simply the sheer probability of him being at the right spot at the right time? this is also a fairly important factor

By Benjamin Moore (Zenith) on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 08:44 am:

Is the camera relevent in any other way other than recording an event? yesish
In recording the event, would a video camera be necessary yes, and more specifically... or would a simple camera suffice? not a camera that takes only still photographs, no
(i.e Is his achievement time based/ it has a definite duration, yes Involve sound sound is produced, but is not essential or just produces a simple outcome which could be evident from a single photo? this would not be posssible)

Does he play the piano? he may do, but this is not relevant to the puzzle
Tony (E20)
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 1:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is he a sportsman? Entertainer? Construction worker?
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 3:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he perform his act using some kind of instrument, or by using his hands (and to a lesser extent his feet) alone?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2005 - 5:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tony (E20) on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 01:40 pm:


Is he a sportsman? yes, indeed :) Entertainer? no Construction worker? no

By Einar Berg (Grainbeer) on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 03:05 pm:


Did he perform his act using some kind of instrument, yes, for svv of "instrument" or by using his hands (and to a lesser extent his feet) alone? no
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2005 - 9:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Some kind of athletics, like javelin? Rowing? Kayak? Skeet? Trap? Wrestling? Boxing? Tennis? Golf (hole-in-one, eagle, birdie,...)? Archery? Fencing? Gymnastics?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 5:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Einar Berg (Grainbeer) on Sunday, May 29, 2005 - 09:32 pm:

Some kind of athletics, like javelin? Rowing? Kayak? Skeet? Trap? Wrestling? Boxing? Tennis? Golf (hole-in-one, eagle, birdie,...)? Archery? Fencing? Gymnastics? none of those, sorry :( olf is perhaps the closest, but not all that close...
Tony (E20)
Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 1:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did it involve a ball? a racket? a club? a puck? a shuttlecock? a bat? a bicycle?

Is the sport necessarily undertaken as part of a team? usually as part of a team? never as part of a team?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 3:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Baseball? Cricket?
Ian (Image)
Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 8:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sport like hunting?

Is this an indoor sport? An outdoor? Both?
Is it seasonal? Spring? Summer? Autumn? Winter?
Is a game concluded after some time? After a series of sets? Based on points?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 10:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tony (E20) on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 01:03 pm:

Did it involve a ball? yope a racket? a club? a puck? a shuttlecock? a bat? a bicycle? none of the others

Is the sport necessarily undertaken as part of a team? no usually as part of a team? no never as part of a team? very rarely indeed

By Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin) on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 03:46 pm:


Baseball? no Cricket? no

By Ian (Image) on Monday, May 30, 2005 - 08:21 pm:


Sport like hunting? no

Is this an indoor sport? this one An outdoor? Both?
Is it seasonal? no Spring? Summer? Autumn? Winter?
Is a game concluded after some time? After a series of sets? Based on points? this one
Damien Sullivan (Docd)
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 5:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

snooker?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 8:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

billiard? pool? carambolage?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 9:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Damien Sullivan (Docd) on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 05:21 am:

snooker? indeed - well done :)

By Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin) on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 08:59 am:

billiard? pool? carambolage? and not these, but consolation marks for being in the right ballpark. So to speak.
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 9:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So we have professional snooker player here, doing some unique performance - presumably at the snooker table? Was this some kind of ball shot, or a series of shots? At a regular snooker table? Did his performance accord with the game rules for snooker? If yes, was it a single one-trick shot? A series of shots (like umpteen shots of the right balls into the pocket)?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 10:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Einar Berg (Grainbeer) on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 09:57 am:

So we have professional snooker player here, doing some unique performance - presumably at the snooker table? absolutely Was this some kind of ball shot, or a series of shots? this one, for which the technical term is a "break" At a regular snooker table? yes Did his performance accord with the game rules for snooker? yes If yes, was it a single one-trick shot? A series of shots (like umpteen shots of the right balls into the pocket)? this one - see above.

Good questions - not very far to go now at all :)
Damien Sullivan (Docd)
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 11:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he set a new record break? (if so, >147?)

Did it occur in a match? A tournament?
At practice?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 11:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Damien Sullivan (Docd) on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 11:16 am:

Did he set a new record break? indeed (if so, >147? yes - that is why it was a new record :))

Did it occur in a match? yes A tournament? the match was part of a tournament
At practice? no - that would not count as a record
Damien Sullivan (Docd)
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 11:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So, OH would management to obtain a financial benefit from having visual footage of his unusual record break in existence. Right?

Is there a prize for a >147 break, which you can only claim if it is televised?

What was the score? 148? 149?.... 155? Relevant?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 11:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Damien Sullivan (Docd) on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 11:38 am:

So, OH would management to obtain a financial benefit from having visual footage of his unusual record break in existence. Right? pretty much, yes :)

Is there a prize for a >147 break, which you can only claim if it is televised? see below

What was the score? 148? this one 149?.... 155? Relevant? not really. However, you have done more than enough...

***** SPOILER *****

In October of last year, the BBC reported that:

Jamie Burnett re-wrote the record books by compiling the highest break in the history of professional snooker.

The Scot completed a clearance of 148 at the UK Championship qualifiers in Prestatyn on his way to a 9-8 win over Leo Fernandez in the second round.

Fernandez committed a foul in the 14th frame, giving Burnett a free ball.

Burnett potted the brown as the extra red, then another brown followed by the 15 reds, 12 blacks, two pinks and a blue and all the colours.

The world number 49 from Glasgow becomes the first player to make a break of more than 147 in a professional match.

"I didn't even realise I was on it until I'd got over 100 and saw that a 148 was on," he said.

"I didn't really know how to react afterwards. At first I thought it was no big deal, but then I realised I'd made history.

"I went out of the arena to compose myself because I still had to win the match. But I didn't play well afterwards and didn't really deserve to win.

"I'm just glad I got through in the end because it wouldn't have meant as much if I'd been beaten."

Despite creating history, Burnett is not due to receive a cash jackpot as there is no bonus awarded for a highest pre-televised break.


Apologies to those not familiar with the rules of snooker. Thanks to all who took part, and especially to Grainbeer and Docd for doing most of the work :)

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