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Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 8:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Because it was too clever, it meant that I couldn't fulfil a basic task
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 8:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Microsoft Windows?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 8:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 08:31 pm:

Microsoft Windows? yope :)
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 8:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A program then? or a web site?
Did it ask an intrusive question?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 8:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 08:45 pm:

A program then? yes or a web site? no
Did it ask an intrusive question? no
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 8:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Web browser? email? word processor? spreadsheet? database? presentation? PIM? FTP? chat? graphics? game? music? video? text editor? compression? antivirus? compiler? operating system?
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 9:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

accounting package?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 9:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 08:58 pm:

Web browser? email? word processor? this one spreadsheet? database? presentation? PIM? FTP? chat? graphics? game? music? video? text editor? compression? antivirus? compiler? operating system?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 9:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Haenlomal (Haenlomal) on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 09:05 pm:

accounting package? no
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 10:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it MS Word? (version relevant?)
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 10:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Or are you still using a MAC?
Ian (Image)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 10:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm... that seems like someone has a negative view of Macintoshes.... I personnally much prefer my operating system to windows....

Was the word prossessor trying to correct something for you? Indentation? Spacing? Capitals? Spelling?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 11:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm... that sounds like someone has a paranoia about being a minority-mac... there was nothing negative intended what so ever. I just seem to remember that Lynne used a MAC
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 11:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 10:23 pm:

Is it MS Word? (version relevant?) yes, version not too relevant

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 10:27 pm:

Or are you still using a MAC? I am indeed, but not relevant here :)


Was the word prossessor trying to correct something for you? it did 'correct' something Indentation? Spacing? Capitals? Spelling? this is closest
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 11:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Grammar?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 11:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By David Burn (Woubit) on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 11:43 pm:

Grammar? no
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 11:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Grampa?
Did the the program assume you were trying to do something else?
American language relevant?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 12:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Wednesday, June 01, 2005 - 11:59 pm:

Grampa? no, he's totally innocent :)
Did the the program assume you were trying to do something else? yessish
American language relevant? nope
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 12:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

were you simply typing?
or were you using the toolbars or menus or some form of formatting?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 12:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 12:05 am:

were you simply typing? yes
or were you using the toolbars or menus or some form of formatting? no
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 12:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This "basic task": was it to type what you wanted to type?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 12:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By David Burn (Woubit) on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 12:09 am:

This "basic task": was it to type what you wanted to type? no
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 12:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

blooper
I had been simply typing, but the task involved a tool.
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 12:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was it from:

Format?
Tools?
Edit?
File?
View?
Insert?
Table?
Other?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 12:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 12:16 am:

was it from:

Format?
Tools?
Edit? this one
File?
View?
Insert?
Table?
Other?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 12:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cut?
Copy?
Paste?
Find?
Replace?
Go to?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 12:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Undo?
Select all?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 6:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 12:29 am:

Cut?
Copy?
Paste?
Find? this one
Replace?
Go to?

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 12:30 am:

Undo?
Select all?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 9:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you want to use the searh function at all? Did you use it? Did you use a normal (string) search? one using regular expressions or the likes? Did it find something?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 10:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin) on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 09:51 am:

Did you want to use the searh function at all? yes Did you use it? yes Did you use a normal (string) search? yes one using regular expressions or the likes? yes Did it find something? NO
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 2:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you enter a normal search string but it was interpreted as a regular expression? or vice versa?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 6:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 02:39 pm:

Did you enter a normal search string but it was interpreted as a regular expression? or vice versa? I'm not sure what you mean here, but I'm pretty sure the answer is no
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 7:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A regular expression is a special kind of search string that lets you look for things like "this followed by either that or any number of those" and such

Were you trying to search for a whole word but it searched for part of a word? or vice versa?
Did it search the correct document?
Were you searching for a word which you had spelled incorrectly, and the spelling checker had already automatically corrected it without you noticing, so that when you searched for the incorrect spelling it was no longer there?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 8:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 07:14 pm:

A regular expression is a special kind of search string that lets you look for things like "this followed by either that or any number of those" and such thanks, but not that

Were you trying to search for a whole word but it searched for part of a word? no or vice versa? no
Did it search the correct document? yes
Were you searching for a word which you had spelled incorrectly, and the spelling checker had already automatically corrected it without you noticing, so that when you searched for the incorrect spelling it was no longer there? yes with a bit of an ish. and that ish is what you need to discover
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 8:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay, let's narrow that down a bit

Were you searching for a word? a phrase? something else? did you think the word/etc was in the document when you searched for it? was it? had you put it there? if so, had you spelled it correctly? had it been changed? without your knowledge? by a spelling checker? did you spell it correctly when you searched for it? did you spell it the same way as you had spelled it when you typed it in the document (if you did)?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 9:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 08:52 pm:

Okay, let's narrow that down a bit

Were you searching for a word? yes a phrase? no something else? no did you think the word/etc was in the document when you searched for it? yes was it? yes had you put it there? yes if so, had you spelled it correctly? yessish had it been changed? yes without your knowledge? yes by a spelling checker? an automatic one, not one that I deliberately used did you spell it correctly when you searched for it? yessish did you spell it the same way as you had spelled it when you typed it in the document (if you did)? yes

what's the ish :)
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 9:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did it "correct" your British spelling to an American version of the word?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 9:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 09:35 pm:

Did it "correct" your British spelling to an American version of the word? no
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 10:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Your spelling: is it an English word? is it a real word? is it a proper noun? is it a number? is it in the OED? is it hyphenated? does it have other punctuation? or an accent?
Word's "corrected" spelling: is it an English word? is it a real word? is it a proper noun? is it a number? is it in the OED? is it hyphenated? does it have other punctuation? or an accent? does it have the same meaning as your spelling?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 11:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 10:44 pm:

Your spelling: is it an English word? no is it a real word? yes is it a proper noun? yes is it a number?no is it in the OED? I don't know as I have a Collins is it hyphenated? no does it have other punctuation? no or an accent? no
Word's "corrected" spelling: is it an English word? no is it a real word? yes is it a proper noun? yes is it a number? no is it in the OED? I don't know as I have a Collins is it hyphenated? no does it have other punctuation? no or an accent? yes does it have the same meaning as your spelling? yes

Sufficient information there to déclair a spoiler:

********** SPOILER **********

In a document that I had written I was searching back for the word eclair. I hadn't known how to put an accent in, and for my purposes, it wasn't necessary. But of course Microsoft Word wouldn't mind its own business and changed it without my realising. As a result, all eclairs seemed to have disappeared.
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, June 02, 2005 - 11:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Good puzzle!

Any time I'm forced to use MS Word, I start by turning off any feature whose name begins with "Smart" or "Auto"...
Tricia Harvey (Trixie)
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 12:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Me too, Wunderland! MS Word drives me nuts! I reckon I'm a pretty good speller so I never have the Spellcheck activated and as for the grammar, words fail me (no pun intended - but on second thoughts...!) Just don't get me started on tables, bullet points, hanging indents ....!
Sorry, Lynne, I was too late to join in the puzzle. It was a good one!
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2005 - 3:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If you had Chambers dictionary instead of Collins, you would not have been surprised by the disappearance of the eclairs, as the former defines them as "A cake, long in shape but short in duration, with cream filling and icing".

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