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Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2005 - 11:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

** RECAP **

In 1961, a group of men varnished a shark. Why?

The shark is stuffed, and complete (besides the bowels and the likes missing). This would work with any shark given it is not too big.

The men don't need a dead shark, the shark is yopeishly varnished to look like something else, but not like another shark made out of a different material. The men don't make money by varnishing it. It's not a prank, but they do intend to fool someone.

It might help to think in terms of 'lacquer' or 'paint' instead of varnish.

There's an obvious question that hasn't been asked yet...
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2005 - 11:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Humm... the obvious questions are often the hardest ones to spot.. we tend to be somewhat myoptic, I guess..

Did they do anything more than painting it to make it look like something else?

Was this hoax meant to work only as seen from a distance? Or even close up? Only in darkness/twilight or even in daylight/in a lighted room?

Were they trying to fool someone(s) in particular, or everybody?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2005 - 3:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What colour was the varnish: white? black? red? green? blue? yellow? grey? pink? brown? purple? orange? If none of these, which is closest?
Did the men catch the shark? buy it? steal it? did they just varnish someone else's shark?
Dena Elbling (Ladyzinga)
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2005 - 6:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

well that would be awfully rude of them, varnishing someone elses shark!
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2005 - 10:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Humm... the obvious questions are often the hardest ones to spot.. we tend to be somewhat myoptic, I guess.. Well, see below

Did they do anything more than painting it to make it look like something else? no

Was this hoax meant to work only as seen from a distance? Or even close up? Only in darkness/twilight or even in daylight/in a lighted room? it was supposed to work even after close inspection of some parts

Were they trying to fool someone(s) in particular yes indeed, or everybody?


What colour was the varnish: grey and blue and colors in between. This was the obvious question, by the way :)

Did the men catch the shark? no buy it? no steal it? the removed it for varnishing, but returned it afterwards did they just varnish someone else's shark? yes


well that would be awfully rude of them, varnishing someone elses shark! well, that's an essential part of this puzzle...
Dena Elbling (Ladyzinga)
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2005 - 10:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

well i still say its rude! i mean, its ok to varnish your own shark, but it isnt nice to varnish someone elses, especially without their permission (which im assuming they didnt have!)
Ian (Image)
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2005 - 10:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it relevant what it was stuffed with? Were they trying to fool someone into thinking it was something else in particular? Or just not a dead shark? Did they know the person they were trying to fool? Was the owner of the shark the one who was going to be fooled? Did the owner want the shark varnished?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2005 - 10:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the whole varnished shark intended to be visible after the varnishing? Was it still shark-shaped?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2005 - 11:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

well i still say its rude! i mean, its ok to varnish your own shark, but it isnt nice to varnish someone elses, especially without their permission (which im assuming they didnt have!) indeed they didn't


Is it relevant what it was stuffed with? no Were they trying to fool someone into thinking it was something else in particular? no Or just not a dead shark? no Did they know the person they were trying to fool? yes Was the owner of the shark the one who was going to be fooled? yes Did the owner want the shark varnished? no


Was the whole varnished shark intended to be visible after the varnishing? yes Was it still shark-shaped? yes
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 2:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the shark intended to resemble a fish species? Whale species? Another, very rare type of shark? Was it intended to resemble an animal object at all? A plant? A stone? A surfboard?

Was the owner one singular person? Or some kind of organization or institution?
Tommy Petersson (Tommyp)
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 4:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they want the owner of the shark that something else (than varnishing) had happened to the shark? something specific? something they had a suitable story for?
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 4:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sounds more like dolphin/porpoise coloration--were they trying to make it look like one of those?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 9:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the shark intended to resemble a fish species? yope Whale species? no Another, very rare type of shark? noish Was it intended to resemble an animal object at all? no A plant? no A stone? no A surfboard? no

Was the owner one singular person? yes Or some kind of organization or institution?


Did they want the owner of the shark _to think_ that something else (than varnishing) had happened to the shark? yope something specific? yope something they had a suitable story for? yope (Sorry, I'm not trying to be mean - you'll understand later...)


Sounds more like dolphin/porpoise coloration--were they trying to make it look like one of those? no
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 9:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were they trying to make it look like a constructed model of a shark?
Tommy Petersson (Tommyp)
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 9:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Mermaid relevant?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Monday, June 06, 2005 - 11:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were they trying to make it look like a constructed model of a shark? no

Mermaid relevant? no
Ian (Image)
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 12:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were they trying to make it look like a statue?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 4:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were they trying to make it look like a statue? no

(Badly needed) Hint: They made it look like two "things" at once. One is a tangible fishlike thing. The other one is more a conceptish thing. You will slap your forehead when you find it out.
LEWIS ZEITERS (Lzeiters)
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 5:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Moby Dick?

Nessie?
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 6:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The conceptish thing: would you associate it with a marine environment? Is it representing an abstract idea (like a piece of art representing some kind of inspiration or thought by the artist)? Advertisement? A toy? A machine? A tool? Food? A sign? A totem? A fetish? Writing?
Dena Elbling (Ladyzinga)
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 9:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the intended part of a pun? cuz it sounds like its gonna be either a pun or a metaphor, but if its a forehead-slapping sort of thing then its more likely to be a pun.
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2005 - 10:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Moby Dick? no
Nessie? no


The conceptish thing: would you associate it with a marine environment? no Is it representing an abstract idea (like a piece of art representing some kind of inspiration or thought by the artist)? it is kind of hard to classify. I wouldn't really call it abstract, though Advertisement? A toy? A machine? A tool? Food? A sign? A totem? A fetish? Writing? no to all. think much simpler


is the intended part of a pun? cuz it sounds like its gonna be either a pun or a metaphor, but if its a forehead-slapping sort of thing then its more likely to be a pun. no, it wasn't supposed as a pun. The forehead-slapping thing is due to both things being rather simple, yet you didn't guess them yet.