Archive through May 28, 2005 Log Out | Topics | Search
Moderators | Register | Edit Profile

Lateral Puzzles » Solved Lateral Thinking Puzzles » Solved Puzzles - July 2005 » [Nimue] Ha, Ha, She's Dead: A True Story » Archive through May 28, 2005 « Previous Next »

Author Message
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 7:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

M (not her real initial) was not famous enough to have her death reported on the front page of The New York Times, but they mentioned there in order to make a joke.
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 8:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was there something funny about her name?
Did she die in a particularly odd way?
Had she done something funny during her life?
Had she made any prophecies about her own death?
Was the date of particular interest?
Was the location of her death important?
Was she an adult?
A child?
Was her death also reported in her own local paper? Was she famous locally?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 8:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lynne (Lynne) on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 08:11 pm:


Was there something funny about her name? no
Did she die in a particularly odd way? no
Had she done something funny during her life yope?
Had she made any prophecies about her own death? no
Was the date of particular interest? no
Was the location of her death important? no
Was she an adult? yes
A child? no
Was her death also reported in her own local paper? I assume it was Was she famous locally? yes but not just locally
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 10:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the joke a well known one, and here at last was someone they could liken to it?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 10:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

y Lynne (Lynne) on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 10:02 pm:


Was the joke a well known one, and here at last was someone they could liken to it? no
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 10:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How long between the death and the joke: days? weeks? months? years?
Was the joke a practical joke? like reporting that she had died, knowing that people would assume they were referring to the more famous person with the same name/job/whatever?
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 2:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

could she have been a man and the puzzle still work?
was this a near-unique situation? a unique one?
were the actual words used in the report relevant? could it have used entirely different words while telling of her death and still been funny?
was it black humour? would most people have found it funny?

is it relevant how she died? accident? natural causes? as a result of crime?

had she done something criminal in her past? relevant? would some people feel happy she was dead once they knew about her?

are any other people relevant other than the readers?

did she live in the US? relevant where she lived?

are any of these things relevant about her - her romantic relationships? her family? her pets? her job? her education? her habits? her way of relaxing? her choice of entertainment? her hobbies? the type of residence she lived in? the shops she used? her health? her neighbours?
her physical appearance? her weight? her ethical perspective? her politics?

was her death ironic - such as she had been trying all her life to achieve something and when she did it somehow killed her?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Monday, May 23, 2005 - 8:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 02:19 pm:


could she have been a man and the puzzle still work? yes
was this a near-unique situation? see next answer a unique one? yes
were the actual words used in the report relevant? no could it have used entirely different words
while telling of her death and still been funny? as long as the same point was made
was it black humour? noish would most people have found it funny? yes

is it relevant how she died? no accident? natural causes? as a result of crime? probably natural causes, but irrel

had she done something criminal in her past? no relevant? would some people feel happy she
was dead once they knew about her? not that I know of

are any other people relevant other than the readers? yes

did she live in the US? I think so relevant where she lived? no

are any of these things relevant about her - her romantic relationships? her family? her pets?
her job? her education? her habits? her way of relaxing? her choice of entertainment? her
hobbies? the type of residence she lived in? the shops she used? her health? her neighbours? just her job

her physical appearance? her weight? her ethical perspective? her politics? ditto
Jens Weber (Sundowner)
Posted on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 12:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was she the only one with this job in the US? in the whole world? Did she still work in this job when she died? Did she die at work?
Is her age relevant? Was she the oldest woman in this job?
Is her employer relevant? Or did she run her own business?
Did the NYT make a pun on her job? on her employer? If so: did this pun involve any of the slang expressions for dying? (like: turn up the toes, kick the bucket)
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 1:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would she be best recognized for her writing? Her appearance? Her voice? Or by name only?
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 5:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

you didn't answer my final question :(
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 6:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

nor any of mine :( :(
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 8:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 10:34 pm:


How long between the death and the joke: days? probably just a day weeks? months? years?
Was the joke a practical joke? no like reporting that she had died, knowing that people would
assume they were referring to the more famous person with the same name/job/whatever? no
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 8:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was her death ironic - such as she had been trying all her life to achieve something and when
she did it somehow killed her? no
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 8:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By (Stuccosalt) on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 01:12 pm:


Would she be best recognized for her writing? noish Her appearance? no Her voice? no Or by name only? yes
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 8:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

y Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 05:59 pm:


you didn't answer my final question rectified, with my apologies

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 06:24 pm:


nor any of mine ditto

By Felicia Nimue Ackerman (N
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

thanks :) but now you've missed Sundowner's...
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, May 27, 2005 - 11:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Jens Weber (Sundowner) on Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 12:27 pm:


Was she the only one with this job in the US? the only famous one in the whole world? ditto Did she still work in this job
when she died?irrel Did she die at work? ditto
Is her age relevant? no, given that she was old enough to have a job Was she the oldest woman in this job? irrel
Is her employer relevant? see next answer Or did she run her own business? yes
Did the NYT make a pun on her job? no on her employer? no If so: did this pun involve any of the
slang expressions for dying? (like: turn up the toes, kick the bucket)
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 8:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was she the first person to have this job? the first woman? the only woman?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 8:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

y John Morahan (Wunderland) on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 08:46 pm:


Was she the first person to have this job? yes the first woman? yes the only woman irrel
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 9:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was she famous for being the first person to do this job?
Did the joke only work for this reason? or, if another person with the same job who was famous for something else had died, would the joke still have worked?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 9:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Saturday, May 28, 2005 - 09:01 pm:


Was she famous for being the first person to do this job? yes
Did the joke only work for this reason? no or, if another person with the same job who was
famous for something else had died, would the joke still have worked?possibly