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Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Saturday, June 18, 2005 - 6:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Some german firemen have crossbows in their equipment. Why?
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Saturday, June 18, 2005 - 8:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are these firemen from modern times? (i.e. current century? decade?)
If so, are the crossbows used for firing ordinary arrows? Are they used for firing ropes into buildings if a ladder can't be used? Are they used as couriers of another sort? Do the crossbows have another useful purpose? Is it just a tradition? Are they more for decoration?

Are these firemen not here for the purposes of putting out fires? Executing people? I.e. are they a firing squad? Did/do firemen serve dual purposes when they aren't putting out fires? I.e. they are also the local police?

If these aren't modern firemen...
Are the crossbows used to start the fires? Are these the same guys who always burn down that villiage at the start of every Robin Hood movie?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2005 - 11:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are these firemen from modern times? (i.e. current century? decade?) yes
If so, are the crossbows used for firing ordinary arrows? bolts, actually Are they used for firing ropes into buildings if a ladder can't be used? no Are they used as couriers of another sort? no Do the crossbows have another useful purpose? yes Is it just a tradition? it is not Are they more for decoration? no

Are these firemen not here for the purposes of putting out fires? they are Executing people? they are I.e. are they a firing squad? I don't know that term? Did/do firemen serve dual purposes when they aren't putting out fires? yes I.e. they are also the local police? no, but that is pretty close

If these aren't modern firemen... they are, but still
Are the crossbows used to start the fires? no Are these the same guys who always burn down that villiage at the start of every Robin Hood movie? no
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Sunday, June 19, 2005 - 7:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

They use the crossbows for killing off bystanders that get too close and hamper the firemen's work, right?
Is it relevant that an ordinary firearm could set off a fire or an explosion due to the flame that often follows the bullet out of the barrel?
Are the crossbows used mostly for...
- Threatening people?
- Shooting people in a non-fatal way?
- Killing people?
- Shooting at something other than people?
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 12:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the crossbows carried for dealing with people fleeing the scene of a fire? People holding torches and pitchforks (i.e. the mob that obviously started the fire)?

Are there only select firemen that have these crossbows? Are they actually people who went to school as both firemen and ______ (non-police term for cross-bow related job)? And volunteered to serve part-time as both?

Is the police-like job... executioner? citizen patrol? A militia of sorts? Local military?

Firing squad: A group of men with guns or crossbows that line up in front of condemned prisoners. Someone yells: ready, aim, fire. All fire, and the prisoner is executed. In some cultures, only one of the guns is loaded randomly, the others with just powder or blanks, and none of the men in the squad know whose; thus, nobody knows who the real executioner is. More recently, executioners just wear/wore black masks to avoid vengeful relatives.
-Related to this?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 9:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

They use the crossbows for killing off bystanders that get too close and hamper the firemen's work, right? not quite
Is it relevant that an ordinary firearm could set off a fire or an explosion due to the flame that often follows the bullet out of the barrel? yesish
Are the crossbows used mostly for...
- Threatening people?
- Shooting people in a non-fatal way?
- Killing people?
- Shooting at something other than people? this


Are the crossbows carried for dealing with people fleeing the scene of a fire? no People holding torches and pitchforks (i.e. the mob that obviously started the fire)? no

Are there only select firemen that have these crossbows? yes Are they actually people who went to school as both firemen and ______ (non-police term for cross-bow related job)? And volunteered to serve part-time as both? being fireman IS their crossbow related job

Is the police-like job... executioner? citizen patrol? A militia of sorts? Local military? no to all

Firing squad: Related to this? no, but thank you for the clarification
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 10:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the crossbows for firing at animals?
Do these firemen usually work in a city? Town? Countryside? Wilderness? Relevant?
Kapil Kapur (Dinkie)
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 11:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

are these real humans or are they characters in an electronic Game e.g Playstation / Game Boy ?
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 12:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

are they meant to be some sort of fall-arrest system should part of the building collapse under them while they are inside?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 3:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the crossbows for firing at animals? no
Do these firemen usually work in a city? this, but... Town? Countryside? Wilderness? Relevant? yes


are these real humans or are they characters in an electronic Game e.g Playstation / Game Boy ? real humans


are they meant to be some sort of fall-arrest system should part of the building collapse under them while they are inside? no, they are pretty much your ordinary medieval crossbow
Kapil Kapur (Dinkie)
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 3:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is anything attached to the crossbow e.g a rope ?
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 3:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well--and this is picky--they're probably a little more sophisticated than their ancestral counterparts in terms of materials and sighting mechanisms, but the basic design is pretty much the same.

Are they using the xbows to shoot holes in structures? Ventilation relevant?

Do they use them at every fire? Is breaking glass relevant?
Kapil Kapur (Dinkie)
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 3:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

are they a rescue service for something other than fires ?

does it relate to putting out fires ?
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 4:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are they meant for the firefighters' self-defense?

does the "bolt" carry/deliver some sort of electric charge?
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 8:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the crossbow bolt designed to set off an explosion? Via well placed powder keg or similar?

If these crossbows are meant to be used on people (Are they?)...
Are these crossbows meant for use on... terrorists? criminals? Ordinary people? Animals? Vegetables? Minerals?

Are the crossbows used in lieu of tear gas (or CS)? Are the crossbows meant to be used for mercy killings? I.e. Somebody is trapped under a beam and about to be burnt alive (a slow and painful process until the fat starts burning), and gets a crossbow in the forehead rather than being made to suffer.
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 8:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do they use them to shoot kitties out of trees? Because that would be nice.

Are they used in buildings that are on fire? Are they used in or near fires? Are they used in some other non-fire related rescue duty?
Martin Schwenk (Trickymartin)
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 8:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is anything attached to the crossbow e.g a rope ? no

Are they using the xbows to shoot holes in structures? no Ventilation relevant? yope
Do they use them at every fire? no Is breaking glass relevant? no

are they a rescue service for something other than fires? no
does it relate to putting out fires? yope

Are they meant for the firefighters' self-defense? no
does the "bolt" carry/deliver some sort of electric charge? no

Is the crossbow bolt designed to set off an explosion? no Via well placed powder keg or similar? quite the contrary

If these crossbows are meant to be used on people (Are they?)... no, they are not
Are these crossbows meant for use on... terrorists? criminals? Ordinary people? Animals? Vegetables? Minerals? froim that list, this is closest...

Are the crossbows used in lieu of tear gas (or CS)? no Are the crossbows meant to be used for mercy killings? no I.e. Somebody is trapped under a beam and about to be burnt alive (a slow and painful process until the fat starts burning), and gets a crossbow in the forehead rather than being made to suffer.

You guys seem to have strange ideas about Germany's firefighters... If that helps, I would imagine some of the UKian or USian firemen use those crossbows, too.
Kapil Kapur (Dinkie)
Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 10:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

are forest fires relevant ?
animals ?
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 5:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Trickymartin, you said this:
"Executing people? they are"
You sound like Yoda!
Anyway, which people are they executing?
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 9:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are these crossbows meant to be used to set off explosives? chemicals? I.e. in the mountain areas where they use controlled explosions to set off miniature avalanches before they have a serious one.
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 2:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think Martin has indicated that they were intended to prevent an explosion...

They don't use them at every fire--does it depend on the construction of whatever's burning? The materials used? For example, for wooden roofs (shake or shingle) they might use an axe, but for slate or metal roofs they use a crossbow to make holes in it? Or does it depend more on the size of the building?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 3:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would the firefighters (politically correct alternative to "firemen") typically use the crossbows inside a structure/building? Aim them at a buidling from outside that building? Aim them outside/away from a building while in that building?

Do the crossbows primarily:
aid in saving lives of other firefighers?
aid in saving lives of victims of fires?
aid in putting out fires?
aid in preventing a fire from starting?
aid in preventing a fire from spreading?

When these bolts are fired from the crossbow, are they usually aimed at part of the building structure? a random object? a strategic target? an object that was brought into the building by the crossbow carrier or another firefighter?

When the bolt strikes its target, does it immediately trigger another action? more than one action?