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David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 3:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Home improvements enriched them
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 5:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

*looks at puzzle title*
What the fizzle?
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 7:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Let me figure out this title, first.
Okay, let's see....
ordinary = usual
Northumbria = I don't remember... Probably one of them Anglo-Saxon countries
spoke-shaver = ???? I think a spokeshave is some kind of drawknife type thing, correct me if I'm wrong....
cockerel = young male chicken?

So the usual ancient Anglo-Saxon country "resident" spokeshaver user's young male chicken? Or is my memory faulty?
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 10:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the title relevant at all? If yes, is the relevance too oblique for us ordinary mortals to work out?

They=Human? 2,3,....999, 1000? relevant?

Improvements to "their" home? "They" carried out the improvements?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 1:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa) on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 07:10 am:


Let me figure out this title, first.
Okay, let's see....
ordinary = usual
Northumbria = I don't remember... Probably one of them Anglo-Saxon countries
spoke-shaver = ???? I think a spokeshave is some kind of drawknife type thing, correct me if I'm wrong....
cockerel = young male chicken?

So the usual ancient Anglo-Saxon country "resident" spokeshaver user's young male chicken? Or is my memory faulty? no. But see below.

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 10:29 am:


Is the title relevant at all? not especially If yes, is the relevance too oblique for us ordinary mortals to work out? no, but it will not help very much

They=Human? yes 2,3,....999, 1000? at least two, perhaps up to about six relevant?

Improvements to "their" home? no "They" carried out the improvements? no
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 1:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are we talking about a family? Is it relevant whose home was improved? eg their neighbours'?

Is it relevant who carried out the improvements?

Is the "home" a house? Where people live?

Do "they" own a DIY store? Or otherwise supply home improvement materials?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 2:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 01:44 pm:


Are we talking about a family? yes Is it relevant whose home was improved? yesish eg their neighbours'? among others, possibly

Is it relevant who carried out the improvements? not really

Is the "home" a house? yope Where people live? yes

Do "they" own a DIY store? no Or otherwise supply home improvement materials? no
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 4:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Enriched them financially? emotionally? spiritually? in some other way?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 6:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab) on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 04:28 pm:


Enriched them financially? this one emotionally? spiritually? in some other way?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 6:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Other people's home improvements in the area raised property values?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 7:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab) on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 06:53 pm:

Other people's home improvements in the area raised property values? not this sort of thing
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 9:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

On yope - is this a building? Is it the sort of building one would typically think of when one thinks of a "house"?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 9:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By (Stuccosalt) on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 09:21 pm:

On yope - is this a building? yope Is it the sort of building one would typically think of when one thinks of a "house"? yope again. Remember Buzzard :)
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 9:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Several houses then. How many? (ltpflpi)
Were improvements made to some houses? or did some people move into different and better houses?
Did "they" receive money? something else of value? avoid losing money? something else of value? spend less than they would have otherwise? did something they owned increase in value?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 10:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 09:39 pm:


Several houses then. indeed How many? (ltpflpi) about as many as there were in the relevant street - say twenty, though it does not matter
Were improvements made to some houses? no - good question or did some people move into different and better houses? no
Did "they" receive money? this one something else of value? avoid losing money? something else of value? spend less than they would have otherwise? did something they owned increase in value?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 10:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the "home" a street of houses then? were some improvements made to the street itself?
David Burn (Woubit)
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By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 10:33 pm:

Is the "home" a street of houses then? indeed - there was a street of houses, in some of which... were some improvements made to the street itself? ..improvements, or at any rate redecoration, was to take place
Einar Berg (Grainbeer)
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 1:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I need to sort this out..: "They" (consisting of one or more of the households in this street) received money from someone. Right? From other neighbours? From the government or the municipality? From some kind of organization? From some kind of business enterprise? Were anyone employed or hired by the body giving he money?

Money was given before any actual improvement/redecoration took place, right? Were the receivers supposed to spend the money on the redecoration? Did improvements actually take place? Relevant?

Were "they" enriched in any other way than just receiving the money?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 8:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Einar Berg (Grainbeer) on Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 01:33 pm:

I need to sort this out..: "They" (consisting of one or more of the households in this street) received money from someone. Right? no. "They", being a family who lived in a particular street, received money because other households in the street were taking steps to improve their homes. From other neighbours? From the government or the municipality? From some kind of organization? From some kind of business enterprise? the source of the money was none of these Were anyone employed or hired by the body giving he money? no

Money was given before any actual improvement/redecoration took place, right? yes, for svv of "given" Were the receivers supposed to spend the money on the redecoration? no Did improvements actually take place? no Relevant? yes

Were "they" enriched in any other way than just receiving the money? no
Ostap Bender (Ostap)
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 11:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did this family plan at all to refurbish their house? (and is "refurbish" the right word here?)
Did they take any steps towards home improvement?
Did they just let it appear as if they were going to improve their home?
Relevant what exactly the improvement was?
Did they receive the money from someone?
Did they find it?
Did they sell something?
(Stuccosalt)
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 2:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

property values relevant?
did the steps taken by neighbors directly lead to this family getting money?
was money in the form of cash?
did the improvements doe by neighbors involve the insides of their homes? the external surfaces of the houses? the lawns/gardens? could it be any of these?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 5:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Ostap Bender (Ostap) on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 11:52 am:

Did this family plan at all to refurbish their house? no (and is "refurbish" the right word here? yes )
Did they take any steps towards home improvement? no
Did they just let it appear as if they were going to improve their home? no
Relevant what exactly the improvement was? yes, indeed
Did they receive the money from someone? noish
Did they find it? yes - good question
Did they sell something? no

By (Stuccosalt) on Wednesday, June 29, 2005 - 02:28 pm:

property values relevant? no
did the steps taken by neighbors directly lead to this family getting money? yes, pretty much
was money in the form of cash? yes
did the improvements done by neighbors involve the insides of their homes? this one, though no improvements were actually carried out, becasue... the external surfaces of the houses? no the lawns/gardens? no could it be any of these? the redecorations were, or would have been, purely internal affairs