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David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Monday, July 11, 2005 - 11:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To eat, be eaten
Veggie-Trunks (Veggie_Trunks)
Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 5:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there anything actually being eaten as in being swallowed by some creature or human and being digested in their stomach?
Does this involve:
a human?
animal?
multiple humans?
multiple animals?
Fire?
Water?
A strange way some animal gets food by living inside another?
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 6:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ooo...

Does this involve drugs?
Or better yet, sodomy?
Disbanding the Navy?
Driver's licenses for boaters?
Letting people use sharks as toothbrushes?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 10:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Veggie-Trunks (Veggie_Trunks) on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 05:59 am:

Is there anything actually being eaten as in being swallowed by some creature or human and being digested in their stomach? yes
Does this involve:
a human? yes
animal? yes
multiple humans? yes
multiple animals? yes
Fire? no
Water? no
A strange way some animal gets food by living inside another? stricly speaking, yes, but it has nothing to do with parasites

By Lisa (Dlcygnet) on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 06:57 am:

Does this involve drugs? no
Or better yet, sodomy? no. Nor yet rum, or the lash. But thank you for asking :)
Disbanding the Navy? no
Driver's licenses for boaters? no
Letting people use sharks as toothbrushes? and no
Eliot (Eliot)
Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 12:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the human the one eaten? Is the human the one that eats whatever the puzzle statement is directed at? Is the thing still alive once eaten?

Or is this a case of; something is kept alive by being fed, then is eaten?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 12:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Eliot (Eliot) on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 12:13 pm:

Is the human the one eaten? yes Is the human the one that eats whatever the puzzle statement is directed at? yes Is the thing still alive once eaten? no

Or is this a case of; something is kept alive by being fed, then is eaten? no
John Faben (Bentarm)
Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 1:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the human eaten whole? In little tiny bits?
Is a specific human eaten? Or might this apply to many of a more general class of humans? The entire population of the planet?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 3:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Faben (Bentarm) on Tuesday, July 12, 2005 - 01:03 pm:


Is the human eaten whole? this one In little tiny bits?
Is a specific human eaten? yes Or might this apply to many of a more general class of humans? no The entire population of the planet? no

And hello again, young Bentarm :) How's the water polo?
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 1:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the plan involve training whales to swallow overboard humans whole and bring them back to shore safely? Jonah (bible) style?
Does the plan involve a different aquatic animal? A different land animal?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 2:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lisa (Dlcygnet) on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 01:49 am:


Does the plan beware of titles - they are not part of the puzzle statement :) involve training whales to swallow overboard humans whole and bring them back to shore safely? but the puzzle does indeed involve swallowing humans whole Jonah (bible) style? it ain't necessarily so
Does the plan involve a different aquatic animal? A different land animal? this one
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 6:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The land animal that's doing the swallowing, is it a...
snake?
Hippo?
Elephant?
Quadruped?
Biped?
No-ped?
A mutated moped?

Is the animal in question capable of swallowing adult humans? children? Babies?
Was this for a stunt? A circus act?
Wait... you said the human was dead after being consumed? Or just 'the thing'... whatever it was?
Veggie-Trunks (Veggie_Trunks)
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 6:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are coast guards angry because certain people keep getting eaten from doing a certain thing?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 1:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lisa (Dlcygnet) on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 06:03 am:

The land animal that's doing the swallowing, is it a...
snake?
Hippo?
Elephant? this one - well done :)
Quadruped?
Biped?
No-ped?
A mutated moped?

Is the animal in question capable of swallowing adult humans? in reality, no - elephants have surprisingly small throats, and are not in any case carnivorous. But for the purposes of the puzzle, yes. children? Babies?
Was this for a stunt? no A circus act? no
Wait... you said the human was dead after being consumed? I do not recall making any such assertion Or just 'the thing'... whatever it was? I'm afraid I don't understand this :(

By Veggie-Trunks (Veggie_Trunks) on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 06:23 am:

Are coast guards angry because certain people keep getting eaten from doing a certain thing? no. Again, the title is not part of the puzzle statement - forget about coastguards :)
John Faben (Bentarm)
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 5:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there a good supply of human food inside elephant stomachs? relevant?

Hi to you too young Mr. Woubit, and the water polo is fine - except that French people don't seem to play it over the summer, so I'm on a two month hiatus (and trying to figure out if I just spelt hiatus right)
Veggie-Trunks (Veggie_Trunks)
Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 5:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Is the human the one eaten? yes
Is the human the one that eats whatever the puzzle statement is directed at? yes
Is the thing still alive once eaten? no"

What was the thing you were talking about here? We thought you meant the human was dead after being eaten.
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 3:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Faben (Bentarm) on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 05:25 pm:

Is there a good supply of human food inside elephant stomachs? there may, for aught I know, be everything from McDonald's to the Fat Duck at Bray inside an elephant's stomach... relevant? ...no

Hi to you too young Mr. Woubit, and the water polo is fine - except that French people don't seem to play it over the summer, so I'm on a two month hiatus (and trying to figure out if I just spelt hiatus right) your spelling is faultless. Your guess as to the age of Mr Woubit is, however...

By Veggie-Trunks (Veggie_Trunks) on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 05:40 pm:


"Is the human the one eaten? yes
Is the human the one that eats whatever the puzzle statement is directed at? yes
Is the thing still alive once eaten? no"

What was the thing you were talking about here? I am not sure We thought you meant the human was dead after being eaten. the human was very much alive after being eaten, and I apologise for any impression I may have given to the contrary
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 6:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Clarification: Does this involve an elephant swallowing a human whole? Does this involve a human eating an elephant? Does one depend upon the other getting to the punch first?

Q: "How do you eat an elephant?"
A: "One bite at a time."

Ok... in some countries, elephants are eaten like any other animal. Does this puzzle involve elephants stampeding/eating humans before the humans can kill them? Is it even a live, flesh and blood elephant? Is it the prop elephant from "Phantom of the Opera"?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 7:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So the elephant swallows the human whole, right?
and the human is still alive after being swallowed?
And then the human (inside the elephant) eats something else?

Is the something else alive at the time the human eats it? is/was it animal in origin? or plant?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 11:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lisa (Dlcygnet) on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 06:58 am:

Clarification: Does this involve an elephant swallowing a human whole? yes Does this involve a human eating an elephant? no Does one depend upon the other getting to the punch first? no

Q: "How do you eat an elephant?"
A: "One bite at a time."

Ok... in some countries, elephants are eaten like any other animal. Does this puzzle involve elephants stampeding/eating humans before the humans can kill them? no Is it even a live, flesh and blood elephant? yes Is it the prop elephant from "Phantom of the Opera"? no

By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab) on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 07:36 am:


So the elephant swallows the human whole, right? yes
and the human is still alive after being swallowed? yes
And then the human (inside the elephant) eats something else? no

Is the something else alive at the time the human eats it? is/was it animal in origin? or plant? something else is eaten, yes. It - or rather they - are plants.
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 4:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the elephant also eat the something else?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 4:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab) on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 04:15 pm:

Does the elephant also eat the something else? yes
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 7:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ooo... is this one of those unusual survival skills?
A person either gets himself eaten by an elephant, or climbs in when the elephant is asleep? Then eats whatever the elephant eats from inside the elephant? Is this some sort of experiment? Or is the human just waiting to be rescued? Is this done to avoid the lions and the angry hippos? From the safety of your elephant hide armor? Eeeeeewwwww....
David Burn (Woubit)
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By Lisa (Dlcygnet) on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 07:07 am:


Ooo... is this one of those unusual survival skills? well, the survival of a group of people was at stake
A person either gets himself eaten by an elephant, this one or climbs in when the elephant is asleep? Then eats whatever the elephant eats from inside the elephant? no Is this some sort of experiment? no Or is the human just waiting to be rescued? no Is this done to avoid the lions and the angry hippos? no From the safety of your elephant hide armor? no Eeeeeewwwww.... indeed :)
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 6:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Trojan Elephant"?
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 1:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

However many people wind up inside the elephant... are they wrapped in plants to avoid getting their flesh seared off by the stomach acid?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 4:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the human who was swallowed happy to be swallowed? content to be swallowed? mildly perturbed to be swallowed? seriously upset to be swallowed?

There was only one human swallowed, corect?

Did the elephant eat the other thing before? or after? it swallowed the human? is that relevant?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 12:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters) on Friday, July 15, 2005 - 06:28 pm:

"Trojan Elephant"? no, but good thinking :)

By Lisa (Dlcygnet) on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 01:13 am:


However many people wind up inside the elephant... are they wrapped in plants yes to avoid getting their flesh seared off by the stomach acid? in part, yes

By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab) on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 04:14 am:

Was the human who was swallowed happy to be swallowed? not really content to be swallowed? this is closest mildly perturbed to be swallowed? though this too might apply seriously upset to be swallowed? no - put it this way: he planned to be swallowed

There was only one human swallowed, correct? yes

Did the elephant eat the other thing before? no or after? no it swallowed the human? is that relevant? most certainly
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 1:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the other thing the elephant ate the plants that the human was wrapped in?

Was the swallowing part of some sort of ritual?
David Burn (Woubit)
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By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab) on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 01:18 am:


Is the other thing the elephant ate the plants that the human was wrapped in? a plant, rather than plants, but otherwise yes

Was the swallowing part of some sort of ritual? no
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 8:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What I think I know: A person wraps himself in a giant plant (maybe a banana/palm leaf?) and gets swallowed by an elephant.

What I'm trying to find out: Why the heck would anybody want to do that? Is that all? Or is there more to it? Do we need to figure out the exact plant?

Does the person get out of the elephant after this process? Is he vomited out? Pooped out? Does he cut his way out of the elephant? Were any elephants harmed in the making of this riddle? What about humans?
David Burn (Woubit)
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By Lisa (Dlcygnet) on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 08:00 pm:

What I think I know: A person wraps himself in a giant plant (maybe a banana/palm leaf?) well, it was a pumpkin and gets swallowed by an elephant. but apart from that, you are entirely correct :)

What I'm trying to find out: Why the heck would anybody want to do that? why, indeed? Is that all? if you knew that, you would know everything Or is there more to it? no Do we need to figure out the exact plant? no - see above

Does the person get out of the elephant after this process? yes Is he vomited out? no Pooped out? no Does he cut his way out of the elephant? yes, indeed - excellent question :) Were any elephants harmed in the making of this riddle? yes What about humans? yes, but may mislead...
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
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So did the human climb into the pumpkin in order to get the elephant to swallow him?

Wild guess:
Is the human a sailor? is the elephant healthy before it swallows the human?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 10:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab) on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 10:13 pm:

So did the human climb into the pumpkin in order to get the elephant to swallow him? exactly and precisely so :)

Wild guess:
Is the human a sailor? no - not Sinbad, nor yet Popeye is the elephant healthy before it swallows the human? yes
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 11:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The humans who were harmed in the making of this riddle...
The person inside the pumpkin?
The person/persons harmed when pumpkin man gets out of the elephant? Harmed by pumpkin man?
Does pumpkin man get hurt AFTER he escapes the elephant?
Does some THING hurt people? Unrelated to the man, the elephant, or other people? e.g. was he carrying something toxic with him? Drugs? Agent Orange?

My thoughts are going back to the Trojan Elephant idea. But you said that wasn't it....

The purpose of getting inside the elephant is...
to kill the elephant? To have the elephant for food?
To gain access to someplace one otherwise wouldn't?
To smuggle drugs across boarders?
To smuggle SOMETHING across boarders?
David Burn (Woubit)
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By Lisa (Dlcygnet) on Sunday, July 17, 2005 - 11:03 pm:

The humans who were harmed in the making of this riddle...
The person inside the pumpkin? no
The person/persons harmed when pumpkin man gets out of the elephant? yes, but this may mislead. To clarify: because these persons had previously been harmed, "pumpkin man" got into and out of the elephant Harmed by pumpkin man? no
Does pumpkin man get hurt AFTER he escapes the elephant? no
Does some THING hurt people? diffcult question. I will say "yes" for the time being, with the caveat that an intangible "thing" is involved. Unrelated to the man, the elephant, or other people? no e.g. was he carrying something toxic with him? Drugs? Agent Orange? not this kind of THING at all

My thoughts are going back to the Trojan Elephant idea. But you said that wasn't it.... have I ever lied to you before? :)

The purpose of getting inside the elephant is...
to kill the elephant? yes, indeed To have the elephant for food? no
To gain access to someplace one otherwise wouldn't? no
To smuggle drugs across boarders? no, even for sufficiently correct values of "borders" :)
To smuggle SOMETHING across boarders? see above
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 12:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were the people hurt by: starvation? disease?
Does the person get inside the elephant because they have no other way to kill it? or is there some other reason?
Is the idea to get at something the elephant has already eaten? such as their supply of medicine?
Is the idea to get the elephant's digestive system to do something to the pumpkin?
David Burn (Woubit)
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By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 12:00 am:


Were the people hurt by: starvation? yes disease? no
Does the person get inside the elephant because they have no other way to kill it? yes or is there some other reason? no
Is the idea to get at something the elephant has already eaten? not this kind of thing such as their supply of medicine?
Is the idea to get the elephant's digestive system to do something to the pumpkin? no
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 3:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok, so people are starving and come up with this ingenious way to get a person swallowed by an elephant (whole no less), while inside a pumpkin and then hacks his way out from the inside. Thus, people have plenty of fresh elephant meat to eat. But you said the elephant doesn't get eaten by the human... does the elephant get fed to something else?
Are there locusts coming through and the only way to get them to stop eating the normal harvest is to offer them elephant meat? Is there some other infestation involved? Perhaps another animal?
David Burn (Woubit)
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By Lisa (Dlcygnet) on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 03:55 am:

Ok, so people are starving yes and come up with this ingenious way to get a person swallowed by an elephant (whole no less), this too is without yeslessness while inside a pumpkin indeed and then hacks his way out from the inside exactly so . Thus, people have plenty of fresh elephant meat to eat. no But you said the elephant doesn't get eaten by the human... I have still never lied to you does the elephant get fed to something else? no
Are there locusts coming through and the only way to get them to stop eating the normal harvest is to offer them elephant meat? no, but this is most ingenious, and I could wish it were the solution :) Is there some other infestation involved? no Perhaps another animal? no
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 4:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Had the elephant developed a habit of raiding the gardens belonging to the humans? They were starving because it was eating all their food?
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
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Or were the elephants just being careless and stampeeding through their crops?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
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Was it more of a "Trojan Pumpkin" than a trojan elephant?
David Burn (Woubit)
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By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab) on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 04:45 am:

Had the elephant developed a habit of raiding the gardens belonging to the humans? yes, indeed :) They were starving because it was eating all their food? quite so

By Lisa (Dlcygnet) on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 04:55 am:

Or were the elephants just being careless and stampeeding through their crops? no

By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab) on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 05:15 am:

Was it more of a "Trojan Pumpkin" than a trojan elephant? It was, and that will do :)

***** SPOILER *****

A folk tale from Africa may be summarised thus:

A family who lived by a river had good fields, in which many pumpkins grew. So good were these pumpkins that others came from far and near to buy them, so that the family prospered.

One day, the youngest child in the family went down to the river to draw water for the pumpkins. What he saw made him turn back in horror, for the fences guarding the pumpkin fields had been demolished, and the fine pumpkins had been eaten - there was nothing left to feed the family, let alone to take to market.

This was, as the family soon discovered, the work of elephants - great lumbering innocent beasts who threatened the livelihood of the family by the river.

The family's oldest child saw what must be done. The youngest boy must hide inside the finest pumpkin, and wait to be eaten by an elephant. Then, he would hack his way out of the pumpkin and strike the elephant a mortal blow - from the inside.

The plan worked. Once the elephant was injured, the rest of the family hacked it to bits from the outside and freed the boy. The elephants never returned to the pumpkin patch, and the family had enough to eat and to sell for the rest of their days. To eat, be eaten.

This story is one that I was told as a very small woubit, for I was born in the part of Africa from which it comes. I had completely forgotten it until a friend gave me a collection of African tales. It seemed to me, and it still seems, that the G8 people had not read this story...

Well done Barbara and Lisa and others who joined in :)

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