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John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 11:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The person being invited:
Age: child? teenager? adult? other? exact age relevant?
Physical characteristics relevant: height? weight? eye colour? hair colour? skin colour? fitness? other?
Mental characteristics relevant: sanity? intelligence? knowledge of something? emotional characteristics? opinions? beliefs? other?
Relationships with other people are relevant - specific other people? if so, the other hosts? the other invited guests? someone else entirely?
Occupation: manual labour? office? retail? management? military? other?

The hosts:
How many people were hosting the dinner? relevant?
Are they a family? corporation? club/society? other organization?

Relationship between them (before): co-workers? casual acquaintances? inlaws? all are members of a specific group? they have a mutual friend? other? same relationship with all the hosts?
Relationship between them (after): friends? family? enemies? strangers? co-workers? casual acquaintances? inlaws? other? same relationship with all the hosts?

Was anyone else present when the invitation was given? if so, hosts? guests? other? relevant?
How many others were invited? relevant? did they have the same relationship with the hosts as had the person who declined: before? after?

The occasion: formal? informal? a birthday? other anniversary? religious festival? celebration of some recent event? anticipation of some future event?
Is the venue relevant? is it the hosts' residence? or place of business?
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 1:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the reason this year is relevant that the story has only just been written? that this would be the first such invitation you would have after writing the story? or that the story refers to this particular year? or that the story involves someone who is the same age as you will be this year? or that a person involved is in situation which you find yourself in this year for the first time?
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 2:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the person in the story actually attend the dinner? And did he subsequently have cause to regret going?

So that you could say "I'd better not go, because it will likely all end in tears, just as it did in this story I wrote"?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 8:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Tuesday, June 14, 2005 - 11:37 pm:


The person being invited:
Age: child? no teenager? no adult? yes other? what else is there?? exact age relevant? no, but approximate age is relevantish
Physical characteristics relevant: height? no weight? no eye colour? no hair colour? no skin colour? no fitness? yes
other?yes{
Mental characteristics relevant: sanity? yes intelligence? yes knowledge of something? yes emotional
characteristics? yes opinions? yes beliefs? yes other? no
Relationships with other people are relevant - specific other people? yes if so, the other hosts? yes
the other invited guests? nosomeone else entirely? yes
Occupation: manual labour? no office? no retail? no management? no military? no other? yes

The hosts:
How many people were hosting the dinner? 2 relevant? yope
Are they a family? yes corporation? no club/society? no other organization? no

Relationship between them (before): co-workers? no casual acquaintances? no inlaws? no all are
members of a specific group? yes they have a mutual friend? yes but that's not the main relationship other? yes same relationship with all
the hosts? There are just 2 hosts
Relationship between them (after): friends? family? enemies? strangers? co-workers? casual
acquaintances? inlaws? other? same relationship with all the hosts? The relationship between the hosts is the same before & after
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 8:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was anyone else present when the invitation was given? noif so, hosts? guests? other?
relevant?
How many others were invited? 1 relevant? yope did they have the same relationship with the hosts
as had the person who declined: before? no after? no

The occasion: formal? informal? midway between the two a birthday? no other anniversary?yope religious festival? no celebration
of some recent event? no anticipation of some future event? no
Is the venue relevant? yes is it the hosts' residence? yes or place of business? no

By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 01:50 pm:


is the reason this year is relevant that the story has only just been written? no that this would be
the first such invitation you would have after writing the story? no or that the story refers to this
particular year? no or that the story involves someone who is the same age as you will be this
year? no or that a person involved is in situation which you find yourself in this year for the first
time? no
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 8:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

y Mosquito (Mosquito) on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 02:42 pm:


Did the person in the story actually attend the dinner? no And did he subsequently have cause
to regret going?N/A

So that you could say "I'd better not go, because it will likely all end in tears, just as it did in
this story I wrote"? no
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 8:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

what else is there?? well, there was a teenager in one of my puzzles, and when I said no to "adult" and "child", someone came back with "foetus" and "embryo", among others

age - younger than: 30? 40? 50? 60?
Is the person: physically fit? sane? intelligent?
occupation: education? politics? entertainment? sport?

also, when I asked about the "relationship between them" I was referring to the relationship between the person who declined the invitation and the hosts, not the relationship between the hosts

so...

Relationship between the hosts and the person who declined the invitation (before): co-workers? casual acquaintances? inlaws? all are members of a specific group? they have a mutual friend? other? did the person have the same relationship with both the hosts?
Relationship between the hosts and the person who declined the invitation (after): friends? family? enemies? strangers? co-workers? casual acquaintances? inlaws? other? did the person have the same relationship with both the hosts?

The hosts: husband and wife? parent and child?

Is the event an annual event? is it a secular holiday? is it an annual tradition among these four people? is it an anniversary of some past event?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 9:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 08:35 pm:


what else is there?? well, there was a teenager in one of my puzzles, and when I said no to
"adult" and "child", someone came back with "foetus" and "embryo", among others good point

age - younger than: 30? no 40? no 50? no 60? no
Is the person: physically fit? no sane? yes intelligent? yes
occupation: education? no politics? no entertainment? no sport? no
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2005 - 9:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

also, when I asked about the "relationship between them" I was referring to the relationship
between the person who declined the invitation and the hosts, not the relationship between the hosts


so...

Relationship between the hosts and the person who declined the invitation (before):
co-workers? no casual acquaintances? yes inlaws? no all are members of a specific group?yope they have a
mutual friend? no other? yesish did the person have the same relationship with both the hosts? yes
Relationship between the hosts and the person who declined the invitation (after): friends?
family? enemies? strangers? co-workers? casual acquaintances? inlaws? other? did the person
have the same relationship with both the hosts?Same answers as before

The hosts: husband and wife? yes parent and child? no

Is the event an annual event? yes is it a secular holiday? yes is it an annual tradition among these
four people? no is it an anniversary of some past event? yes
Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa)
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 4:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You want them to invite you so that you can reject them and feel powerful.
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 11:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the person who declined the invitation retired?

Was the holiday one that the person chose not to observe for some reason?

Was the story published this year?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 2:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Shawn Franchi (Doctapeppa) on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 04:51 pm:


You want them to invite you so that you can reject them and feel powerful. no

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - 11:14 pm:


Is the person who declined the invitation retired? yes

Was the holiday one that the person chose not to observe for some reason?yope

Was the story published this year? yes
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 2:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the person have some ethical/political/religious objection to the holiday itself?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 8:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

y John Morahan (Wunderland) on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 02:40 pm:


Did the person have some ethical/political/religious objection to the holiday itself? no
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 8:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the person male? or female? (I know it's not relevant - I just need a pronoun)

Did the person decline the invitation because he/she: was physically unable to attend? already had plans for that day? wanted to be somewhere else specific? disliked something about the holiday? disliked something about the hosts? disliked something about the other guest? some other reason? is the reason even relevant?

The person has a relevant relationship with someone other than the hosts and the other guest, correct? how many such people are relevant? and what is the relationship: friends? lovers? family? enemies? strangers? co-workers? casual acquaintances? inlaws? other?
and do these people have any relevant relationship with the hosts? or the other guest? if so, what is it? (from the list above)
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 8:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 08:23 pm:


Is the person male? or female? (I know it's not relevant - I just need a pronoun) female. In fact her name is 'Miss Pratt' (although that's not relevant either)

Did the person decline the invitation because he/she: was physically unable to attend? no
already had plans for that day? yesish wanted to be somewhere else specific? yesish disliked something
about the holiday? no disliked something about the hosts?yope disliked something about the other
guest? no some other reason? yes is the reason even relevant? yes

The person has a relevant relationship with someone other than the hosts and the other
guest, correct? yes how many such people are relevant? unspecified and what is the relationship: friends? yes
lovers?no family? no enemies? no strangers? no co-workers? no casual acquaintances? no inlaws? no other? no
and do these people have any relevant relationship with the hosts? no or the other guest? noif so,
what is it? (from the list above)
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 8:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were her friends doing something that day which she wanted to be part of? perhaps celebrating the same holiday?
Did they say? / not say? / do? / not do? something, which influenced her decision not to go to the dinner?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 8:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

y John Morahan (Wunderland) on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 08:41 pm:


Were her friends doing something that day which she wanted to be part of? yes, but that's NOT the main reason she declined the invitation perhaps
celebrating the same holiday? possibly
Did they say? / not say? / do? / not do? something, which influenced her decision not to go
to the dinner? noish to all
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 8:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she decline the invitation because of something she knew about her friends? eg that they would not approve of her going? did her friends dislike something about the hosts?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 8:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 08:54 pm:


Did she decline the invitation because of something she knew about her friends? yope eg that they
would not approve of her going? no did her friends dislike something about the hosts? no
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 9:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are her friends relevant to her main reason for not going?
Did she decline the invitation primarily because of something she knew? / believed? about: the hosts? herself? some other person? the hosts' home? something else?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, July 08, 2005 - 10:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 09:32 am:

Are her friends relevant to her main reason for not going? yes
Did she decline the invitation primarily because of something she knew? / believed? about: the hosts? yes herself? yes some other person?just her friends the hosts' home? no something else?yes