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Larry Troxler (Quackscience)
Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 12:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If I were to repeat to a psyhciatrist, the phrase that she says, and ask him, "Is this something that a person undergoing a psychotic episode would say?", would he say yes? maybe? no?


Psychosis, from what I understand, is a symptom and not a disease. For example, it could be drug induced, or a symptom of schizophrenia, or possibly even a symptom of severe manic-depressive disorder. So, is it relevant at all what sort of mental illness that someone saying this might be suffering from?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 8:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Larry Troxler (Quackscience) on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 12:08 am:

If I were to repeat to a psyhciatrist, the phrase that she says, and ask him, "Is this something that a person undergoing a psychotic episode would say?", would he say yes? maybe? no? he'd say maybe


Psychosis, from what I understand, is a symptom and not a disease. For example, it could be drug induced, or a symptom of schizophrenia, or possibly even a symptom of severe manic-depressive disorder. So, is it relevant at all what sort of mental illness that someone saying this might be suffering from? schizophrenia
Larry Troxler (Quackscience)
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 6:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the name she says, a name of a well know person?
Or a generic name like "Mary" or "Jack"?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 8:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Larry Troxler (Quackscience) on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 06:04 am:

Is the name she says, a name of a well know person? no
Or a generic name like "Mary" or "Jack"? yope
The Undertaker (Undertaker)
Posted on Friday, October 14, 2005 - 9:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

anything to do with surnames as opposed to first name?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, October 14, 2005 - 10:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By The Undertaker (Undertaker) on Friday, October 14, 2005 - 09:15 pm:

anything to do with surnames as opposed to first name?no
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 12:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The yope:
a generic name?
Mary?
Jack?

Is the name a "non-proper" name, or "nickname"? like "Sport", "Champ", "Sweetie", etc.?

The name of a specific individual?
...or simply a particular name?

Does she carry on a conversation with herself about the other person in such a way that the other person recognizes they are actually being communicated with?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 4:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters) on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 12:06 am:

The yope:
a generic name? yesish
Mary? no
Jack? no

Is the name a "non-proper" name, or "nickname"? no like "Sport", "Champ", "Sweetie", etc.? no

The name of a specific individual? yes
...or simply a particular name?

Does she carry on a conversation with herself about the other person in such a way that the other person recognizes they are actually being communicated with? no
Larry Troxler (Quackscience)
Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 4:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So it's the name of a specific individual, but not a well known one, correct?

Is the specific individual that the name refers to : someone she knows personally? Someone that the person she's talking to knows personally? Relevant?

Could someone hearing this name, interpret it as something other than a person's name, in the sense that if someone said "Skip", they might either be
(1) addressing someone whose name is Skip, or else (2) asking the person spoken to, to in fact, start skipping instead of walking?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 9:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Larry Troxler (Quackscience) on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 04:22 am:

So it's the name of a specific individual, but not a well known one, correct?

Is the specific individual that the name refers to : someone she knows personally? yes Someone that the person she's talking to knows personally? yes Relevant? yes

Could someone hearing this name, interpret it as something other than a person's name, in the sense that if someone said "Skip", they might either be
(1) addressing someone whose name is Skip, or else (2) asking the person spoken to, to in fact, start skipping instead of walking? no
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 9:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it her own name?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 10:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Jennifer (Tigger32382) on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 09:16 pm:

Is it her own name? yes

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Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 10:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

does she call everyone lizette? or talk about herself in the third person?
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 9:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so the 'psychotic' thing she says is her name?
is it her real name? her legal name? a pet name?
does she choose to be known by a name other than that given to her by her parents?
a name that she likes for some reason?

such as it being a character created by her favourite author? ;)
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, October 21, 2005 - 9:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Jennifer (Tigger32382) on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 10:49 pm:

does she call everyone lizette?no or talk about herself in the third person? no

By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 09:30 pm:

so the 'psychotic' thing she says is her name? yes
is it her real name? yes her legal name? yes a pet name? no
does she choose to be known by a name other than that given to her by her parents? yes
a name that she likes for some reason? yes

such as it being a character created by her favourite author? ;) irrel--Gee, whatever gave you THAT idea??

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Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 3:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We've already established that she doesn't talk about herself in the third person, right? If not, relevant? "All work and no play makes Lizette a dull girl..."

Does she have a certain way of prounouncing/enunciating her name that is indicative of psychosis?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 8:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lisa (Dlcygnet) on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 03:41 pm:

We've already established that she doesn't talk about herself in the third person, right? yes If not, relevant? "All work and no play makes Lizette a dull girl..."

Does she have a certain way of prounouncing/enunciating her name that is indicative of psychosis? no
Tony (E20)
Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 9:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I seem to remember seeing something on TV once about a murderer who had changed his name to Charles Bronson ...

Has she changed her name to that of a famous person?

Would it help to find out exactly what the name is?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 7:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tony (E20) on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 09:44 am:

I seem to remember seeing something on TV once about a murderer who had changed his name to Charles Bronson ...

Has she changed her name to that of a famous person? no

Would it help to find out exactly what the name is? no

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Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 5:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hrm. I think we might be close to needing a refocus.

Is it her first name that is the issue?
Her last name? Her title (Mrs.? Ms.? Other?)?
A combination of the above?

Is it related to the way she says it? How she says it? How she introduces herself?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 5:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

y Lisa (Dlcygnet) on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 05:14 pm:

Hrm. I think we might be close to needing a refocus.

Is it her first name that is the issue? yes
Her last name? no Her title (Mrs.? Ms.? Other?)? no
A combination of the above?

Is it related to the way she says it? no How she says it? no How she introduces herself? no

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Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 2:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

who she says it to? when she says it? is there any other word other than "lizette" that is relevant?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 8:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Jennifer (Tigger32382) on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 02:38 pm:

who she says it to? yes when she says it? no is there any other word other than "lizette" that is relevant? yes
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 8:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the other word also a name? does she say it to strangers? family? friends? all of the above? does she only say it to people of a certain age? gender? social class? people from a particular job? does she refer to people as "lizette's friend" or "lizette's boss" or some other possessive?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 8:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Jennifer (Tigger32382) on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 08:26 pm:

is the other word also a name? yes does she say it to strangers? yes family? yes friends? yes all of the above? yesdoes she only say it to people of a certain age? no gender? no social class? nopeople from a particular job? no does she refer to people as "lizette's friend" or "lizette's boss" or some other possessive? no
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 8:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is the other name her name? is it the name of whoever she's talking to?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 9:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Jennifer (Tigger32382) on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 08:59 pm:

is the other name her name? yes is it the name of whoever she's talking to? no
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 9:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

her middle name? last name? her first name repeateD?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 10:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Jennifer (Tigger32382) on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 09:44 pm:

her middle name? no last name? no her first name repeateD? no
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 10:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Her nickname? Another form of her first name?
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 10:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We know she calls others by her own name and that's the habit that is is considered a psychotic characterstic, right?

And she uses it with anyone? In any situation?

Are we trying to find out why that's considered such?

Does she have a problem remembering names? Is it essentially involuntary on her part?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 10:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

on reading previous answers more carefully...
She had her first name legally changed? To Lizette? From Lizette?
If so, relevant exactly what her other first name was?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 8:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 10:14 pm:

We know she calls others by her own name and that's the habit that is is considered a psychotic characterstic, right? no to both

And she uses it with anyone? yes In any situation? yes

Are we trying to find out why that's considered such? no, you haven't found out what she does

Does she have a problem remembering names? noIs it essentially involuntary on her part? no

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 10:24 pm:

on reading previous answers more carefully...
She had her first name legally changed? yes To Lizette? yes From Lizette?
If so, relevant exactly what her other first name was? no


You're nearly there, so I'm going to declare a
***********SPOILER **************
Lizette, like your own Felicia Nimue, has changed her name more than once. Imagine my surprise when I read that this trait is considered characteristic of psychotics! Does this just show how narrow-minded the mental health estasblishment is, or is name-changing really characteristic of people who hallucinate, think they're Napolean, etc.?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 9:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well it was said by the bard:

G stands for Gnu, whose weapons of Defence
Are long, sharp, curling Horns, and Common Sense.
To these he adds a Name so short and strong
That even Hardy Boers pronounce it wrong.
How often, on a bright autumnal day,
The pious people of Pretoria say
"Come, let us hunt the..." Then no more is heard
But sounds of Strong Men struggling with a Word.
Meanwhile the distant Gnu, with grateful eyes
Observes his opportunity, and flies.

Moral

Child, if you have a rummy kind of name,
Remember to be thankful for the same.


Hilaire Belloc

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