| Author | Message | ||
| Larry Troxler (Quackscience)
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If you weren't lost before, you might well be now! | ||
| Ian (Image)
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Mushrooms of forgetfulness? | ||
| Larry Troxler (Quackscience)
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Mushrooms of forgetfulness? No, sorry | ||
| Ian (Image)
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Is 'you' any one specific? 'you' = human? male? adult? alive? relevant? you = you? Did I do something relevant that causes me to be lost now? Did I not do something? Did someone else do something? Did someone else not do something? Did I eat anything? Is the title of the puzzle relevant? Am I lost because I came to somewhere I haven't been before? Because I can't find my map? Because I have amnesia? Because I can't see? Any one else relevant? Is this a true situation? From a book/play/story/show/movie/joke? FYOI? | ||
| Larry Troxler (Quackscience)
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Hi Ian, Is 'you' any one specific? No 'you' = human? Yes male? Irrelevant adult? Irrelevanat alive? Yes you = you? No Did I do something relevant that causes me to be lost now? Possibly Did I not do something? Possibly Did someone else do something? No Did someone else not do something? No Did I eat anything? I don't know, would you rather be lost on a full stomach or be lost and hungry at the same time? Is the title of the puzzle relevant? Obliquily, yes Am I lost because I came to somewhere I haven't been before? Possibly Because I can't find my map? Possibly Because I have amnesia? No Because I can't see? No Any one else relevant? No Is this a true situation? It could have been true at times, who knows? It certainly could happen, I suppose From a book/play/story/show/movie/joke? No to all FYOI? Possibly, but It's a plausible scenario | ||
| Larry Troxler (Quackscience)
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Sorry for the possible answers - I can tell now I need a bit more experience in hosting puzzles - let's just say, that yes, if you didn't have a map, that it would be more likely that you would get lost. But you could say that in general about traveling anywhere. There's something more to it than just that, in this case. | ||
| Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
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"lost" (as relevant to this puzzle) as in not knowing one's location relative to a known location? or "lost" as in "I'm lost... i don't understand ___________?" or.... "forbidden fruit" relevant to being "lost"? | ||
| Ian (Image)
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Lost as in a lost cause? ("There's no hope of curing him... he's lost...") Lost like a bet, or game? ("Haha! You need to take care of mother when she visits!") Some other kind of lost? Sorry, let me rephrase the "you = you?" Is the 'you' who may not have been lost before the same 'you' who might as well be lost now? Relevant where 'I' am? Where 'I' was? Was 'I' travelling anywhere? Did 'I' change location from before when 'I' may not have been lost to now when 'I' might as well be? Time of day relevant? Day? Month? Year? Timeframe in general? Time span between when 'I' may have been lost to now relevant? | ||
| Larry Troxler (Quackscience)
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Lewis: "lost" (as relevant to this puzzle) as in not knowing one's location relative to a known location? Yes or "lost" as in "I'm lost... i don't understand ___________?" No or.... "forbidden fruit" relevant to being "lost"? No Ian: Lost as in a lost cause? ("There's no hope of curing him... he's lost...") No Lost like a bet, or game? ("Haha! You need to take care of mother when she visits!") No Some other kind of lost? Yes Sorry, let me rephrase the "you = you?" Is the 'you' who may not have been lost before the same 'you' who might as well be lost now? Yes Relevant where 'I' am? Yes! Where 'I' was? Yes Was 'I' travelling anywhere? Yessish Did 'I' change location from before when 'I' may not have been lost to now when 'I' might as well be? Yes Time of day relevant? No Day? No Month? No Year? No Timeframe in general? Yope Time span between when 'I' may have been lost to now relevant? Yes | ||
| Ian (Image)
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Has any time passed? An instant? A second? A minute? An hour? 12 hours? A day? A week? A month? A year? A decade? A century? A millenium? An era? An eon? Before, was I on planet Earth? In North America? South America? Europe? Africa? Asia? Australia? Antarctica? Relevant? At home? At work? At church? On the road? In a forest? In the mountains? At sea? In the air? In the vacuum of space? Now, am I on planet Earth? In North America? South America? Europe? Africa? Asia? Australia? Antarctica? Relevant? At home? At work? At church? On the road? In a forest? In the mountains? At sea? In the air? In the vacuum of space? | ||
| Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
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am i actually lost now? was i actually lost then? I noticed you never actually stated that i *was* or *am* actually lost, but that *if* i was, then i *might* be now... don't know if it's relevant, but on this forum, anything is worth exploring once...right?  | ||
| Larry Troxler (Quackscience)
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Ian wrote: Has any time passed? An instant? A second? A minute? An hour? this is closest 12 hours? I hope not! A day? A week? A month? A year? A decade? A century? A millenium? An era? An eon? No to rest Before, was I on planet Earth? Yes In North America? Yes South America? No Europe? No Africa? No Asia? No Australia? No Antarctica? No Relevant? Yes At home? No At work? No At church? No On the road? Yes In a forest? No In the mountains? No At sea? No In the air? No In the vacuum of space? No Now, am I on planet Earth? In North America? South America? Europe? Africa? Asia? Australia? Antarctica? Relevant? At home? At work? At church? On the road? In a forest? In the mountains? At sea? In the air? In the vacuum of space? Same answers for now as for before Lewis wrote: Am i actually lost now? was i actually lost then? I noticed you never actually stated that i *was* or *am* actually lost, but that *if* i was, then i *might* be now... don't know if it's relevant, but on this forum, anything is worth exploring once...right? Ok, let's get rid of the hyoptheticals. Othersize, I'll be always answering "possibly" :-) Fred was somewhat lost before. Now he's definetly lost! And no, he doesn't have a map. How's that? :-) | ||
| Larry Troxler (Quackscience)
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Just in case it could be misinterpreted, by "How's that?", I mean "How's that for a better puzzle statement?", and not "How is it that Fred doesn't have a map?"! | ||
| Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
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maybe he didn't have a woman present to make him ask for directions...  do Fred's actions during this hour-ish contribute to his being more lost? did his actions before this hour contribute to his lost-ish-ness? is Fred: in a city? if so, on the streets? in a building? business? residential? belonging to him? somewhere he is not supposed to be? in a forest? on foot? in a vehicle? with anyone else? with any other living thing? as a companion? or just in the general vicinity? Does anyone else know where he is? Is it relevant why he is there? | ||
| Larry Troxler (Quackscience)
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do Fred's actions during this hour-ish contribute to his being more lost? Yeshih did his actions before this hour contribute to his lost-ish-ness? Noish is Fred: in a city? Yes if so, on the streets? Yes in a building? No business? residential? belonging to him? somewhere he is not supposed to be? No in a forest? No on foot? Most likely in a vehicle? But could be this too with anyone else? Irrel with any other living thing? Irrel as a companion? or just in the general vicinity? Yes, there are other living things in the general vicinity Does anyone else know where he is? Irrel Is it relevant why he is there? Not really | ||
| Ian (Image)
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Is he in, say, Quebec, and, being a monolingual English speaker, he is unable to find his way around or ask for directions? Did he expect to be lost? Relevent what city he's in? What province/state/country? | ||
| Larry Troxler (Quackscience)
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Is he in, say, Quebec, and, being a monolingual English speaker, he is unable to find his way around or ask for directions? No, and in fact once he asks for directions he will probably find his away again Did he expect to be lost? Irrel Relevent what city he's in? YES! What province/state/country? | ||
| Ian (Image)
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Ok, so, North American cities... let's start with Canada... Whitehorse? Yellowknife? Iqualiwit? (Probably spelt differently than that, but...) Victoria? Vancouver? Regina? Edmonton? Winnipeg? Toronto? Ottawa? Montreal? Quebec City? Halifax? St. John's? Fridricton? Charlettetown? Some other Canadian city? If so, in Alberta? .... Yukon Territory? And now for America, which I'm not so good with... Washington DC? New York? Boston? Kansas? Orlando? Miami? Some other large American city which I can't think of? If so, in what state? Alabama? .... Wyoming? Or in Mexico somewhere? Mexico City? Or somewhere else in North America? Relevent why he didn't ask for directions? Relevent where he's going? Where he's coming from? | ||
| Larry Troxler (Quackscience)
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Ian (Image) on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 02:38 am: Ok, so, North American cities... let's start with Canada... Whitehorse? Yellowknife? Iqualiwit? (Probably spelt differently than that, but...) Victoria? Vancouver? Regina? Edmonton? Winnipeg? Toronto? Ottawa? Montreal? Quebec City? Halifax? St. John's? Fridricton? Charlettetown? Some other Canadian city? If so, in Alberta? .... Yukon Territory? And now for America, which I'm not so good with... Washington DC? New York? This Boston? Kansas? Orlando? Miami? Some other large American city which I can't think of? If so, in what state? Alabama? .... Wyoming? Or in Mexico somewhere? Mexico City? Or somewhere else in North America? Relevent why he didn't ask for directions? Only in that there wouldn't be a puzzle otherwize Relevent where he's going? Not really Where he's coming from? Not Really | ||
| Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
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Did he confuse the numbered streets with the numbered avenues? Was he looking for a neighborhood by name, thinking that it was a street? looking for a street, thinking that it was a neighborhood? (SoHo? the Village? Chelsea?) Was he even in the right borough? | ||
| Larry Troxler (Quackscience)
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By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab) on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 03:15 pm: Did he confuse the numbered streets with the numbered avenues? No, but somewhat OTRT in general - explore! Was he looking for a neighborhood by name, thinking that it was a street? No looking for a street, thinking that it was a neighborhood? (SoHo? the Village? Chelsea?) No Was he even in the right borough? Yes | ||
| Ian (Image)
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So, Fred is walking in New York and loses his way, because he did/didn't do something over the course of the last hour... Is that correct? Is he a tourist? Or there on business? Or does he live there? Is he going to see some famous building? The statue of liberty? The Empire State Building? Relevent what part of the city he's in? Central park? Anything unusual and relevent about Fred we need to find out? |
