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Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 4:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Ann delivering a pizza? Walter? no
Larry Troxler (Quackscience)
Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 5:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If, in an alternate universe, pizzas were always made without tomatos, would this puzzle still work?
Larry Troxler (Quackscience)
Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 12:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are Ann and Walter characters in a commercial advertisement?
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 3:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If, in an alternate universe, pizzas were always made without tomatos, would this puzzle still work? no

By Larry Troxler (Quackscience) on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 12:45 pm:

Are Ann and Walter characters in a commercial advertisement? no
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 11:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does Anne like lettuce? Does Walter hate cabbage?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 12:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do Ann and Walter know each other? if yes, is their relationship relevant?
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 1:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does Anne like lettuce? Does Walter hate cabbage? i have no idea!

By Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab) on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 12:02 am:

Do Ann and Walter know each other? no if yes, is their relationship relevant?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 2:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does Ann have anything to do with the pizza(s)? does Walter?

Are all of the other people who are geting the pizza in one place?
Is each person getting a pizza for themself?
Is how many pizzas are involved relevant?
Is where the pizzas are coming from relevant?

Does Walter run a pizzaria?
Does Ann?
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 2:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does Ann have anything to do with the pizza(s)? does Walter? no to both

Are all of the other people who are geting the pizza in one place? no
Is each person getting a pizza for themself? no
Is how many pizzas are involved relevant? sort of, I guess...trying to figure this out might help set you on the right track
Is where the pizzas are coming from relevant? no

Does Walter run a pizzaria?
Does Ann? nope, they have nothing to do with the pizza
Ian (Image)
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 1:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So, how many pizzas? (Please insert the LTPF list of positive integers)

Are the masses watching Ann? Walter? Both? Relevant?
Relevent how many people are included in the masses? (If yes, please insert once again the LTPF list of positive integers)
If Ann and Walter knew each other, would the puzzle still work?
Are Ann and Walter part of the masses?
If, in yet another alternate universe, Ann hated tomatoes and Walter was fond of them, would the puzzle work?

"Walter won't go near them." Is this just because he hates the taste? Because he is allergic? Because his childhood was plauged with nightmares of being eaten by giant, mutant, evil, flesh-eating tomatoes?

General location relevant? Country? Continent?
Relevant when? In terms of year? Season? Day? Time?

Is there some competition going on here?

Forgot to ask this earlier... Ann and Walter are alive, correct?

Fortunately, in that it causes....
Monetary gain?
The avoidance of pain/some other miserable thing?
The occurence of something good?
Inner peace?
Entertainment for the next half hour or so?

Anything physical relevant about the masses? About Ann? Walter?
Anything non-physical relevant about the masses? Ann? Walter?
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 2:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So, how many pizzas? (Please insert the LTPF list of positive integers) infinite, really. try thinking metaphorically about the pizza

Are the masses watching Ann? Walter? Both? no, they really aren't connected to Ann and Walter Relevant?
Relevent how many people are included in the masses? no, again, this is pretty much infinity (If yes, please insert once again the LTPF list of positive integers)
If Ann and Walter knew each other, would the puzzle still work? it would be less likely to work. there are circumstances where it could work, but they are rarer
Are Ann and Walter part of the masses? which masses are we talking about? the ones getting pizza? no
If, in yet another alternate universe, Ann hated tomatoes and Walter was fond of them, would the puzzle work? not if everything else about Ann and Walter remained the same

"Walter won't go near them." Is this just because he hates the taste? no Because he is allergic? no, but OTRT Because his childhood was plauged with nightmares of being eaten by giant, mutant, evil, flesh-eating tomatoes? he he, no

General location relevant? yes (I was wondering when we were going to get to the typical LTPF questions that usually get asked right away - thanks!) Country? yes Continent? yes
Relevant when? yes, very In terms of year? this Season? Day? Time? none of rest

Is there some competition going on here? no

Forgot to ask this earlier... Ann and Walter are alive, correct? during the puzzle, yes, today, no

Fortunately, in that it causes....
Monetary gain?
The avoidance of pain/some other miserable thing?
The occurence of something good? this
Inner peace?
Entertainment for the next half hour or so?

Anything physical relevant about the masses? About Ann? Walter?
Anything non-physical relevant about the masses? Ann? Walter? about Ann and Walter, yes
Benjamin Moore (Zenith)
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 5:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok, Trying to sort this out...

We have Ann, who likes tomatos: this is relevant.
Ann lives in some country on some continent.
is the Country - (LPTF generator of all countries)
Is her particular occupation relevant?
If so, does it have something to do with:
• delivery
• entertainment
• media
• education
• sales
• manufacture
• research
• none of the above?


Next we have Walter. He doesn't like tomatos, this is relevent.
Does Walter live in the same county as Anne?
If not: is the Country he lives in - (LPTF generator of all countries)
Is Walter's work relevant?
If so does he work in the same line of business as Ann?
If so, same branch, different branch, or rival company?
If not, Does he work in:
• delivery
• entertainment
• media
• education
• sales
• manufacture
• research
• none of the above?


Finally we have the "masses" This group consists of an effective infinite amount of people.
They are all recieving pizza.
Is all the pizza identical?
Is it all from the same place?
Is the topping on the pizza relevant?
Apart from the pizza, Is there any other feature that relates all these people together?
• Geographic
• Work
• Entertainment
• religion
• education
• Social Status
• Financial stuation
• Social Network
• none of the above?

Are all these people in the same place?
Is the "occurence of something good" for these people, the fact that they are all recieving pizza, or is the pizza serving another need also. (food for the homeless, etc)
Have they all ordered pizza, or is it a gift?

Is this set during the Depression?
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 1:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We have Ann, who likes tomatos: this is relevant.
Ann lives in some country on some continent.
is the Country - England, although I think it might work with a few other European countries (LPTF generator of all countries)
Is her particular occupation relevant? not specifically
If so, does it have something to do with:
delivery
entertainment
media
education
sales
manufacture
research
none of the above?

Next we have Walter. He doesn't like tomatos, this is relevent.
Does Walter live in the same county as Anne? yes
If not: is the Country he lives in - (LPTF generator of all countries)
Is Walter's work relevant? not specifically
If so does he work in the same line of business as Ann?
If so, same branch, different branch, or rival company?
If not, Does he work in:
delivery
entertainment
media
education
sales
manufacture
research
none of the above?

Finally we have the "masses" This group consists of an effective infinite amount of people.
They are all recieving pizza.
Is all the pizza identical? no
Is it all from the same place? no
Is the topping on the pizza relevant? just the tomatoes
Apart from the pizza, Is there any other feature that relates all these people together? no
Geographic
Work
Entertainment
religion
education
Social Status
Financial stuation
Social Network
none of the above?

Are all these people in the same place? no
Is the "occurence of something good" for these people, the fact that they are all recieving pizza, or is the pizza serving another need also. another need - ish, although certainly they are thrilled about the pizza (food for the homeless, etc)
Have they all ordered pizza, or is it a gift? a combination, i imagine

Is this set during the Depression? no, but good guess... explore

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Tony (E20)
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 5:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does this occur before 1900? before 1910? before 1920? before 1930? ... before 1990? before 2000?

Is the pizza which is on its way a physical object? Or an idealised (Platonic) pizza? Is the phrase being used in the sense that in the 1980s we might have said "Mobile phones are on their way"?
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 7:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does this occur before 1900? yes before 1910? before 1920? before 1930? ... before 1990? before 2000?

Is the pizza which is on its way a physical object? Or an idealised (Platonic) pizza? Is the phrase being used in the sense that in the 1980s we might have said "Mobile phones are on their way"? YES!
Ian (Image)
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 8:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So did Ann invent pizza? Did Walter? Or bring it to England?

Did this occur in... (please insert the LTPF list of years)
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 9:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So did Ann invent pizza? Did Walter? Or bring it to England? no

Did this occur in... (please insert the LTPF list of years) prior to the 19th century, Ann and Walter may have lived in about the 16th or 17th century
Ian (Image)
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 10:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm.... Did either of them invent something? Tomatoe paste? Do something else which would make them famous?

If Ann had not existed, would we still have pizza today?
If Walter had not existed, would we still have pizza todat?
If neither had exisited?
Did either take some major step in the development of pizza?ÊOf something else?
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 10:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm.... Did either of them invent something? Tomatoe paste? Do something else which would make them famous? no to these

If Ann had not existed, would we still have pizza today?
If Walter had not existed, would we still have pizza todat?
If neither had exisited? yes to these

Did either take some major step in the development of pizza?ÊOf something else? no
Ian (Image)
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 11:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So the pizza is filling some need... (Or is it a want?) Let's take a look at Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs... Is it satisfying:
Psysiological Needs? (Food, Water, etc.)
Safety and Security Needs?
Belongingness and Love Needs?
Esteem Needs? (Achievement, etc.)
Cognitive Needs? (Knowledge, Understanding, etc.)
Aesthetic Needs? (Order, Beauty, etc.)
Self-Actualization Needs? (Realization of Potential, Inner Peace, etc.)

Or, if its a want,
The want to have some tasty food to fatten up on?
The want to have some comercial on TV? (Although I don't know who wants this...)
The want for a healthy, food-driven economy?
The want for an alternative to hamburgers?

If pizza, for some reason, were spelled "Phyeatsse," (but still pronounced the same) would the puzzle work?
What if it were pronounced and spelled "fish?"
Would a similar puzzle work with, say, green pepper in the place of tomatoes?
What if pizza were replaced with some other food? (Like Chicken Parmesean?)
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 12:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So the pizza is filling some need... (Or is it a want?) Let's take a look at Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs... Is it satisfying:
Psysiological Needs? (Food, Water, etc.) well, sort of i guess
Safety and Security Needs?
Belongingness and Love Needs?
Esteem Needs? (Achievement, etc.)
Cognitive Needs? (Knowledge, Understanding, etc.)
Aesthetic Needs? (Order, Beauty, etc.)
Self-Actualization Needs? (Realization of Potential, Inner Peace, etc.) no to rest

Or, if its a want,
The want to have some tasty food to fatten up on? this is part of it
The want to have some comercial on TV? (Although I don't know who wants this...)
The want for a healthy, food-driven economy?
The want for an alternative to hamburgers?

If pizza, for some reason, were spelled "Phyeatsse," (but still pronounced the same) would the puzzle work? sure
What if it were pronounced and spelled "fish?" is it still pizza, or is it fish?
Would a similar puzzle work with, say, green pepper in the place of tomatoes? no
What if pizza were replaced with some other food? (Like Chicken Parmesean?) pizza works best, a few others might work a little bit
Ally McCabe (Strongplacebo)
Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 1:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would Walter still enjoy a pizza, despite not liking actual tomatoes?