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Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 4:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A man stops by a certain shop on the way to work every morning, and has done this for several months. One week, he decides not to stop at the shop at all. He resumes his routine of stopping there the following week however, and continues from then on. For the first few days of his return, when he pays the clerk, the clerk leaves the man's money on the counter for several hours after receiving it. Eventually the exchange of goods and money goes back to normal. Why the disruption?

A relatively easy one to get me back into the lateral puzzle mode...
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 5:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Reason for not stopping by the shop that one week...
He went out of town?
He was sick?
The shop was out of what he wanted?
Traffic problems?
Natural disaster?
Unnatural disaster?
Clerk was sick?

Money left on the counter...
Because something was wrong with the money?
It needed airing out?
Clerk couldn't see it?
Clerk couldn't hear it?
Clerk was injured and couldn't collect the cash until his assistant arrived for his shift?
Clerk was doing something else at the time and rarely noticed when "he" came in?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 5:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Reason for not stopping by the shop that one week...
He went out of town? No
He was sick? No
The shop was out of what he wanted? No
Traffic problems? No
Natural disaster? No
Unnatural disaster? No
Clerk was sick? No

Money left on the counter...
Because something was wrong with the money? Strictly speaking, no
It needed airing out? No-ish, but you are on a the right track
Clerk couldn't see it? No, the clerk could see it
Clerk couldn't hear it? Not relevant
Clerk was injured and couldn't collect the cash until his assistant arrived for his shift? No
Clerk was doing something else at the time and rarely noticed when "he" came in? No, not the case
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 5:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

emailed...
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 6:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did he not have money the week he didn't come to the shop?
was the money wet?
stinky?
suspected of being counterfeit?
is the currency relevant?
denomination?
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 6:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the Clerk also in food service? And thus had to wait till all his orders were done before running the register?
(You're not supposed to cook and touch money. He'd have to stop cooking/remove gloves/wash hands twice after having touched the money and put it in the register. To do so for each customer slows the process down tremendously.)
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 7:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did he not have money the week he didn't come to the shop? No, he had money on hand
was the money wet? At one point it was, yes
stinky? No
suspected of being counterfeit? No
is the currency relevant? No
denomination? Yes, but only to a certain degree
Was the Clerk also in food service? No/wrong track
And thus had to wait till all his orders were done before running the register? N/A
(You're not supposed to cook and touch money. He'd have to stop cooking/remove gloves/wash hands twice after having touched the money and put it in the register. To do so for each customer slows the process down tremendously.)
Great thought process and suggestion. Sadly though, it has to be a bit more tricky than this or else the great minds that frequent this forum would have it solved by the second round of questions...
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 8:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is it a small bill? a very large bill? was the reason that the money was wet related to the reason the man couldn't go to the store?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 8:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is it a small bill? Yes
a very large bill? No
was the reason that the money was wet related to the reason the man couldn't go to the store? No
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 8:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

making change relevant? is the one-time wetness of the water related to why it stays on the counter? is the reason for staying away for a week related to the reason that the money ends up on the counter?
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 8:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the man's (Judah?) occupation relevant?

Is it relevant what he usually buys? Cup of coffee? Breakfast? Type of shop relevant?

Does the clerk just leave the money on the counter for a period of time then put it in the register? Or does he/she (Shirley? a female character might make pronouns easier) do something else with it prior to putting it in the register?

Any sort of surveillance relevant?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 9:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

making change relevant? Only to one small extent - the man didn't need to get change
is the one-time wetness of the water ? related to why it stays on the counter? I think you're trying to ask something else...
is the reason for staying away for a week related to the reason that the money ends up on the counter? Yes
Is the man's (Judah?) occupation relevant? No, but let's call him Judah anyway
Is it relevant what he usually buys? Yes
Cup of coffee? Yes
Breakfast? No
Type of shop relevant? Not really, just that it sells coffee

Does the clerk just leave the money on the counter for a period of time then put it in the register? There is probably another thing done with it first
Or does he/she (Shirley? a female character might make pronouns easier) do something else with it prior to putting it in the register? Yes, Shirley probably does something else first

Any sort of surveillance relevant? No

Incidentally, wasn't 'Judah and Shirley' a short-lived spinoff of 'Laverne and Shirley', following the adventures of life after Laverne got married and replaced by another roommate?
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 9:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

yes, i was trying to ask if the one time wetness of the money was related to why it stays on the counter. long day!
does shirley inspect it? write on it?
was the man forced to stop coming for a week? or did he do so of his own will? did he gain something by not coming? avoid some negative consequence?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 9:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

yes, i was trying to ask if the one time wetness of the money was related to why it stays on the counter. long day! I thought this was what you were getting at, but I wanted to be sure :)

Yes, this is related


does shirley inspect it? write on it? Neither
was the man forced to stop coming for a week? No - good q
or did he do so of his own will? Yes - good q
did he gain something by not coming? Hmm...I'd say no, not really
avoid some negative consequence? In his opinion yes
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 9:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

does shirley flatten it? make change for it (i know he doesn't need any, but maybe she does?) copy it? sort it? is it only one bill? or a few of the same denomination? is the man avoiding paying more? going to jail? would everyone think he was avoiding a negative consequence? is anything medical related? if it weren't coffee that he bought, would he still have stopped coming? is the area the coffee shop is located in relevant?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 9:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

does shirley flatten it? No
make change for it (i know he doesn't need any, but maybe she does?) No
copy it? sort it? Neither
is it only one bill? Yes - another good q
or a few of the same denomination? No
is the man avoiding paying more? No, he pays the correct amount
going to jail? N/A
would everyone think he was avoiding a negative consequence? No, and it's not definite that he is, it's just something he thinks he may be avoiding, but keep exploring...
is anything medical related? No
if it weren't coffee that he bought, would he still have stopped coming? Probably not
is the area the coffee shop is located in relevant? No
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 2:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok, so he walks into this convenience store, gets a cup of coffee for himself and leaves a 1 dollar bill (the cost of the coffee with tax) on the counter for the clerk? The bill he leaves is wet? Was wet?

Was it wet because of heavy rain? Hurricane? Flooding in the area?

Did he live in St Louis? So that while this convenience store might not have been affected by flood waters, it still wasn't a good idea to head into town? (Especially with reports of giant crocodiles)
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 2:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ok, so he walks into this convenience store, gets a cup of coffee for himself and leaves a 1 dollar bill (the cost of the coffee with tax) on the counter for the clerk? Yes
The bill he leaves is wet? Yes Was wet? Yes

Was it wet because of heavy rain? Hurricane? Flooding in the area? None of this

Did he live in St Louis? He could have lived anywhere for this to happen
So that while this convenience store might not have been affected by flood waters, it still wasn't a good idea to head into town? (Especially with reports of giant crocodiles)
Godd idea, but natural disasters aren't involved here.
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 2:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

wet with water? wet with something else? does shirley dry it? iron it?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 3:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

wet with water? Yes
wet with something else? No
does shirley dry it? Yes
iron it? No
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 3:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

important how she dries it?
did the water come from the sky? from melted snow? from a river? another body of water? a faucet? tears?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 4:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

important how she dries it? To a degree, yes
did the water come from the sky? Well at some point it all does, doesn't it? No, this water does not come directly from the sky
from melted snow? Well no, but...
from a river? Doesn't really matter, keep reading
another body of water? a faucet? This is the most likely source, a faucet or spigot
tears? No