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Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 3:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does this have something to do with those poker cups? No
So... did they need to appear to be "paying customers" No
in order to remain in this No
establishment? <- Not the best term for where they were
So they bought no
were given yes
some cups of coffee so they wouldn't have to leave right away? No, not the reason for the cups of Joe
Will they be prosecuted for not paying? No
Does anyone care they did not pay? No
Are they allowed to not pay? It's not required
By a company? By the governement? N/A
By the establishment which does not require that they pay for coffee
that sold it? The place they are does not sell coffee

Okay...this is driving me batty. I apologize for causing battiness SO:

AL, BOB, and CARL are sitting at a table. Ok
DON comes over with some coffee. Uh huh...
Say, AL leaves with DON. Yes...
BOB says, "Man, I can't stand coffee.". CARL says "Me either,". Everyone amenable to that?
I couldn't have done better myself...

Okay - moving forward:

Did AL want the coffee?
BOB?
CARL?
DON?
In your scenario, Don is the only one who 'wanted' the coffee

Will AL get rid of his coffee?
BOB?
CARL?
DON?
They all will get rid of it in one way or another, but I think it will be most helpful to say that in all likelihood everyone but Don will end up disposing of theirs by pouring it out or throwing it away

Will AL drink his coffee? No
BOB? No
CARL? No
DON? Yes - he's the only one
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 3:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Don's reason for having coffee the same as everyone elses? Or is he having coffee because he actually likes it, whereas Al, bob and carl have some other reason?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 4:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Don's reason for having coffee the same as everyone elses? No...
Or is he having coffee because he actually likes it, whereas Al, bob and carl have some other reason? ...exactly!
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 4:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are they at a homeless shelter? Is Don one of the volunteers?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 4:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are they at a homeless shelter? No
Is Don one of the volunteers? N/A
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 4:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Al, Bob or Carl ask for coffee? Does Don know they don't like coffee? Do they feel obligated to take the coffee because Don brought it to them? If someone else had given them coffee would they accept it?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 4:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Al, Bob or Carl ask for coffee? No
Does Don know they don't like coffee? He doesn't care/it doesn't matter
Do they feel obligated to take the coffee because Don brought it to them? No
If someone else had given them coffee would they accept it? Good q - No, and explore
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 5:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are they spies? FBI Agents? Doing something covert where the signal that you're not the enemy is that you approach with 4 cups of coffee? That's how Carl knew it was safe to talk to Don? It's the new age style that replaced silly passwords?

The eagle flies at midnight.
Vae (Vaetrus)
Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 5:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the place they get the coffee a store? Restuarant? Office? Kitchen? Home? Other?

Do this do this often? (By this, I mean get coffee and do whatever it is they do to it)

Will Al, Bob, and Carl test their samples? Use it as a utensil? Collect data on it? Leave it there?

Bob and Carl stay at the table, correct?
Do they sit and stare and do nothing?
Write something? Observe something? Communicate by other means? Use an appiance?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 5:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are they spies? FBI Agents? No
Doing something covert where the signal that you're not the enemy is that you approach with 4 cups of coffee? Interesting, but no
That's how Carl knew it was safe to talk to Don? It's the new age style that replaced silly passwords? Uh, no, not the case but very insightful

The blue squirrel hides in the red cave

Does the place they get the coffee a store? No
Restuarant? No
Office? Partially this, yes
Kitchen? Home? No
Other? And this too

Do this do this often? (By this, I mean get coffee and do whatever it is they do to it)
Good q - one of them does this often, the others will not do this often at all

Will Al, Bob, and Carl test their samples? Not exactly, but on somewhat of the right track
Use it as a utensil? What do you mean?
Collect data on it? No
Leave it there? Where?

Bob and Carl stay at the table, correct? For a time, yes
Do they sit and stare and do nothing? Probably
Write something? Maybe, but nothing relevant
Observe something? Maybe, but nothing relevant
Communicate by other means? Irrelevant
Use an appiance? No
Vae (Vaetrus)
Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 5:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Minks are scampering away. Shining.

Is Don the one who gets coffee often?

Use it as a utensil, as in, use the cups for another purpose, maybe holding another liquid?
Just leave it where Don placed it, and not touch it?

Do Bob and Carl just sit and stare at the cups of coffee, without touching them, for some time?
Stare at eachothers? a screen? a monitor? something else?
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 5:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are they cup testers? And today it's their job to test the corrosive behavior of coffee on their cups?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 7:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Don the one who gets coffee often? Yes

Use it as a utensil, as in, use the cups for another purpose, maybe holding another liquid? No, they'll be used to hold the coffee
Just leave it yes
where Don placed it, no
and not touch it? yes, at some point

Do Bob and Carl just sit and stare at the cups of coffee, without touching them, for some time? Possibly, yes
Stare at each others? Maybe, not all that relevant though
a screen? a monitor? something else? They may do any of this for a period of time
Vesica (Vesica)
Posted on Friday, November 04, 2005 - 8:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there anything unusual about the coffee?
The cups?

Will Bob and Carl leave the area as well?
Take the coffee with them?

Are they in some sort of break room?
Conference room?
Open office area perhaps with cubicles?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 8:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there anything unusual about the coffee?
The cups? No to both

Will Bob and Carl leave the area as well? Yes, at some point
Take the coffee with them? Yes

Are they in some sort of break room? No
Conference room? No
Open office area perhaps with cubicles? No
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 2:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

when bob and carl leave the area, will they already have done the relevant thing with the coffee? or will that happen after they leave? will al do the same thing as bob and carl, just in a different place?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 3:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

when bob and carl leave the area, will they already have done the relevant thing with the coffee? No
or will that happen after they leave? Yes
will al do the same thing as bob and carl, just in a different place? No, in the same place
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 3:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so bob and carl will get up and go find al? will don still be there too? is it relevant why al goes off with don at first instead of waiting for bob and carl? will they meet up in a bathroom? a lab? a kitchen? an office? will they give their coffee to someone else? will they pour their coffee into a new container?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 3:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so bob and carl will get up and go find al? No
will don still be there too? Where?
is it relevant why al goes off with don at first instead of waiting for bob and carl? YES
will they meet up in a bathroom? a lab? a kitchen? an office? No, it's not likely they will ever meet up anywhere
will they give their coffee to someone else?
will they pour their coffee into a new container? No, they aren't likely to do either of these
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 3:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so will al already have done the thing with his coffee? and bob and carl will do the thing in the same place that al did it, just later? is don the boss? does al need to impress don? does al need to help don? does the relevant thing with the coffee need to be done at two different times? does don know that the other three won't drink the coffee? does he watch al do the relevant thing?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 3:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so will al already have done the thing with his coffee? Yes
and bob and carl will do the thing in the same place that al did it, just later? YES
is don the boss? No
does al need to impress don? Hmm...yes, I would say that he does!
does al need to help don? No
does the relevant thing with the coffee need to be done at two different times? Not sure I understand this q
does don know that the other three won't drink the coffee? Yes
does he watch al do the relevant thing? YES
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 3:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is don less sure that al can do the thing than bob and carl? is al being trained? or monitored for some reason?