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Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 9:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Electra pretended to be diabetic. How come??
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 9:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To explain the track marks/needle holes?

To avoid eating holiday fruitcake?

As an excuse for carrying around syringes which she distributed?
Lisa (Dlcygnet)
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 9:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was she attempting to gain something? Lose something? Deceive somebody? Avoid somebody? Avoid pity? Anything to do with candy? Anything to do with food at all? To avoid eating something? To get away with eating something?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 9:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 09:15 pm:

To explain the track marks/needle holes? no

To avoid eating holiday fruitcake? No. Why does everyne dump on fruitcake?I LOVE it

As an excuse for carrying around syringes which she distributed? no

By Lisa (Dlcygnet) on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 09:19 pm:

Was she attempting to gain something? yesish Lose something? no Deceive somebody? Well,obviously she was trying to deceive someone about whether she was diabetic Avoid somebody? no Avoid pity? no Anything to do with candy? no Anything to do with food at all? no To avoid eating something? no To get away with eating something? no
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 9:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Drugs relevant at all?
Disability benefits?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 10:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 09:45 pm:

Drugs relevant at all? yes
Disability benefits? no
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 10:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Maybe they've had unfortunate fruitcake experiences. Or it could be just traditional. Or it could be that in these modern times we get so much stuff with extra-sugary goodness we've become jaded about mere fruit.

Relevant drugs: insulin? A diabetes drug? Relevant whether she pretends to have type 1 or type 2?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 11:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 10:18 pm:

Maybe they've had unfortunate fruitcake experiences. Or it could be just traditional. Or it could be that in these modern times we get so much stuff with extra-sugary goodness we've become jaded about mere fruit. But a good fruitcake is VERY sweet

Relevant drugs: insulin? yes A diabetes drug? just insulin Relevant whether she pretends to have type 1 or type 2?she prtetends to be insdulin-dependent. I think that usually meanms diabetes I
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 12:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does she inject insulin into herself? Get it on behalf of somebody else?
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 3:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is her age relevant? is she a child? a teenager? a young adult? middle aged? elderly?
is her educational background relevant? her romantic relationships? her job? her religion? her hobbies? her pets? her place of residence?

the thing she wishes to gain - is this gain financial? emotional? spiritual? does she wish to improve her health? her healthcare? her safety? her status in society? her educational prospects? her romantic relationships? to make her life more comfortable physically? does it somehow gain her time?

is it relevant whom she pretends to? is it one person? is it one group of people? does she pretend to friends? family? co-workers? strangers? healthcare staff? retail staff? insurance companies?

is it relevant when she pretends? does she do it in a particular situation? as a response to something else that happens? is air transport involved? is refrigeration relevant?

if there were another disease which required regular injections to maintain life would this work for this puzzle too? or something which just meant people were more likely to have injections? or something which meant people were more likely to carry medication with them at all times?

if insulin were taken orally would this puzzle work?
Vesica (Vesica)
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 4:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does insulin have any "fun" side effect?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 7:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lynne (Lynne) on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 12:23 am:

Does she inject insulin into herself? yes Get it on behalf of somebody else? no

By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 03:33 pm:

is her age relevant? yes is she a child? unlikely, & certainly not a very young child a teenager? possiby a young adult? ditto middle aged? ditto elderly? ditto
is her educational background relevant? her romantic relationships? her job? her religion? her hobbies? her pets? her place of residence? none of those is relevant

the thing she wishes to gain - is this gain financial? no emotional?yesish spiritual? no does she wish to improve her health? no her healthcare? no her safety? no her status in society? noher educational prospects? no her romantic relationships? no to make her life more comfortable physically? no does it somehow gain her time? no

is it relevant whom she pretends to? yes is it one person? possibly is it one group of people? ditto does she pretend to friends? no family? no co-workers? no strangers yes healthcare staff? no retail staff? no insurance companies? no
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 7:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is it relevant when she pretends? yes does she do it in a particular situation? yes as a response to something else that happens? yes is air transport involved? no is refrigeration relevant? no

if there were another disease which required regular injections to maintain life would this work for this puzzle too? possibly or something which just meant people were more likely to have injections? no or something which meant people were more likely to carry medication with them at all times? no

if insulin were taken orally would this puzzle work? yes

By Vesica (Vesica) on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 04:11 am:

Does insulin have any "fun" side effect? not that I know of; in fact, my impression is that it's rather unpleasant
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 7:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BLOOOOOOOOOPERRRRRRRRALERTTTTTT!!!!!!!!is it relevant whom she pretends to? yes is it one person? possibly is it one group of people? ditto the ansdwer to the last question should be yes
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 10:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Which is more important in this scenario? The fact that she supposedly has diabetes? Or the fact that she takes insulin? Would this work if she took glycaemic tablets for supposed diabetes?

Is she looking for sympathy? Is she trying to empathise with those with actual diabetes?

Is it relevant that she pretends that it's Type 1 diabetes which usually occurs spontaneously early in life as opposed to Type 2 which usually develops later in life and is often a result of obesity (Type 2 can develop to insulin dependency)?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 10:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lynne (Lynne) on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 10:24 pm:

Which is more important in this scenario? The fact that she supposedly has diabetes? no Or the fact that she takes insulin? yes Would this work if she took glycaemic tablets for supposed diabetes? i'm not sure

Is she looking for sympathy? no Is she trying to empathise with those with actual diabetes? noish or yope

Is it relevant that she pretends that it's Type 1 diabetes which usually occurs spontaneously early in life as opposed to Type 2 which usually develops later in life and is often a result of obesity (Type 2 can develop to insulin dependency)? Insulin-dependency type 2 is ok

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Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 10:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is she trying to prove a point about people with diabetes?
Is self-injecting relevant? Would she ever get a friend/partner to inject her? Would she ever get anyone else to knowingly join her in the pretence?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 11:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lynne (Lynne) on Friday, November 11, 2005 - 10:33 pm:

Is she trying to prove a point about people with diabetes?yes}
Is self-injecting relevant? no Would she ever get a friend/partner to inject her? irrel Would she ever get anyone else to knowingly join her in the pretence? yes
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 12:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the point that she is trying to prove negative or positive or neutral?
Is the point about the condition itself?
Or the act of injecting insulin?
People's coping techniques?
Lifestyle?
Quality of life?
Longevity?
The impact that insulin has on the body other than it's connection to diabetes?
Is she writing an academic thesis on the subject?

Could the point she is trying to prove be made by an actual diabetic?
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 11:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

does she do this in a situation where food is involved?
are those she pretends to the staff of a restaurant? or somewhere selling food and drink?
has she just asked for a low sugar version of something?
does she suspect she will be given the regular version? or is trying to ensure she is given the low sugar version?

the scenario I am thinking of here is one I have encountered where someone asks for diet coke and the server, because of laziness, or a 'couldn't care' attitude, serves regular coke - thinking it won't make a difference - anything like that?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 9:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lynne (Lynne) on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 12:40 am:

Is the point that she is trying to prove negative or positive or neutral?Please clarify the question
Is the point about the condition itself? yesish
Or the act of injecting insulin?noish
People's coping techniques? no
Lifestyle? no
Quality of life? yes
Longevity? yes
The impact that insulin has on the body other than it's connection to diabetes? no
Is she writing an academic thesis on the subject? no

Could the point she is trying to prove be made by an actual diabetic? yes
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 9:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 11:15 am:

does she do this in a situation where food is involved? no
are those she pretends to the staff of a restaurant? no or somewhere selling food and drink? no
has she just asked for a low sugar version of something? no
does she suspect she will be given the regular version? or is trying to ensure she is given the low sugar version? no

the scenario I am thinking of here is one I have encountered where someone asks for diet coke and the server, because of laziness, or a 'couldn't care' attitude, serves regular coke - thinking it won't make a difference - anything like that? no