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Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 9:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The waiter wheeled the meal to the table on a platter covered with a silver dome. Suddenly he realised he'd made a mistake.

What was the dish that he'd brought to the table?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 9:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My first thought was the head of John the Baptist but that would be in awfully bad taste, wouldn't it?

Good to see you again, Simon!
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 9:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi and thanks Lynne

My first thought was the head of John the Baptist but that would be in awfully bad taste, wouldn't it? Yes

Was the utterance of "bad taste" an intended pun?
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 9:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Salome
Could not be described as homey.
Her menu for a feast
Was Tête Baptitse.


Was what he had brought to the table actually edible? Was it what had been ordered?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 10:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Fawlty Towers relevant?
Waiter=he=he=he? meal=dish?
Was the mistake that he had brought the wrong dish?
Did he remove the dome before realising his mistake?
Did he see something? hear something? smell something? feel something? taste something? which caused him to realise his mistake?
Was he acting in his capacity as a waiter at the time? in a restaurant?
Is the table a dinner table? in the place where he works?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 10:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

David
Was what he had brought to the table actually edible? Yes
Was it what had been ordered? No

John
Fawlty Towers relevant? Not exactly but it did trigger associations in my memory of a couple of sketches in Fawlty Towers (hence the puzzle title). Can you guess which sketches I have in mind?

Waiter=he=he=he? Yes
meal=dish? Yes
Was the mistake that he had brought the wrong dish? Yes
Did he remove the dome before realising his mistake? No!
Did he see something? Yes

hear something? smell something? feel something? taste something? which caused him to realise his mistake? No to these

Was he acting in his capacity as a waiter at the time? Yes
in a restaurant? Yes

Is the table a dinner table? Yes
in the place where he works? Yes, it's the restaurant where he works as a waiter
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 10:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he mention the war?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 10:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he mention the war? If he did, nobody heard him so I think he got away with it alright ;-)
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 10:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, I haven't seen them in a good while. I was thinking of the one with the rat.

Was the thing that he saw the dish that he should have brought?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 10:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, I haven't seen them in a good while. I was thinking of the one with the rat.

My word, I'd forgotten about that. I was thinking of the occasion where he accidentally served a raw mullet to the posh woman and when she nearly choked from the distasteful experience, he responded in defensive innocence, "oh, would you prefer a cooked one?" And the other occasion when he tore open the trifle with his bare hands looking for the dish that he thought should have been exactly where the trifle was sitting

Was the thing that he saw the dish that he should have brought? No
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 5:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it something on the cart? Like condensation on the outside of the dome, which should not have been there because the dish that had been ordered was cold?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 8:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it something on the cart? Yes

Like condensation on the outside of the dome, which should not have been there because the dish that had been ordered was cold? No but you are thinking along the right lines
Jens Weber (Sundowner)
Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 11:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the thing that made him realize his mistake..
.. something strange about the plate?
.. something strange about the dome?
.. something strange about the cart?
.. the fact that the dish was under a dome?
.. something else?

Did he realize his mistake before leaving the kitchen? afterwards? if afterwards: would it have been possible to make the same observation in the kitchen?

Do we need to find out what he brought to the table? what was ordered?

Was it a special type of restaurant? (national cuisine? vegetarian? kosher?)
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 4:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the thing that made him realize his mistake..
.. something strange about the plate? no
.. something strange about the dome? yope
.. something strange about the cart? no
.. the fact that the dish was under a dome? no
.. something else? yes

Did he realize his mistake before leaving the kitchen? no
afterwards? Yes
if afterwards: would it have been possible to make the same observation in the kitchen? quite possibly

Do we need to find out what he brought to the table? yes

what was ordered? Yes but not as important.

Was it a special type of restaurant? (national cuisine? vegetarian? kosher?) It was a Chinese Restaurant
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 5:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the dome a standard food-covering dome (that is, something intended for that purpose)?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 5:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the dome a standard food-covering dome (that is, something intended for that purpose)? Yes
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 5:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The fact that it was a Chinese restaurant relevant? Was the dish he brought out not on the menu? Was the person being served not Chinese?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 5:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The fact that it was a Chinese restaurant relevant? Yes
Was the dish he brought out not on the menu? No, it was on the menu
Was the person being served not Chinese? Not relevant
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 5:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would the dish being brought out be considered typical fare found in Chinese restaurants? Or was it a more 'exotic' dish?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 6:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they order a number 66 and he brought a 99?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 7:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Haenlomal
Would the dish being brought out be considered typical fare found in Chinese restaurants? Yes

Or was it a more 'exotic' dish? and Yes

Lynne
Did they order a number 66 and he brought a 99? No but an excellent idea!
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 7:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it some sort of dim-sum? Is the dish spicy? Served hot? Served cold? Is it a veggie dish? A meat dish? Fungi? Seafood? A mix of veggies and meat? If yes to the last question, was it predominantly veggies? predominantly meat?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 9:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it some sort of dim-sum? Ummm, I don't know

Is the dish spicy? Served hot? Served cold? Is it a veggie dish? A meat dish? Fungi? Seafood? A mix of veggies and meat? If yes to the last question, was it predominantly veggies? predominantly meat? It's a meat dish and although I know the name of it I don't know much more about it.

Of course, it is just as important to discover not just what the dish was but also how he knew what the dish was.

In short, it would be good to discover:

1. The dish that was ordered (of lesser importance)
2. The dish that was served
3. How the waiter identified the dish that was served.
Tom Waddell (Tsoram1970)
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 12:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Simon, please check email?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 12:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Simon, please check email?

Hi Tom, I've checked and you are absolutely correct - well done
Valiko Mizandari (Mimino)
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 12:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there a specific reason why the waiter not only realized what dish he was bringing, but also that it must be the wrong one? (other than he knew what was ordered)
Would it be helpful to identify the animal(s) from which the meat was? (if so: pig? cow? chicken? duck? fish? shellfish? snake? frog? someone else?)
Is the shape of the dome relevant?
Was there something written on the dome? on the plate?
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 12:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the dish that was brought some sort of sizzling thing?

Was the thing that was noticed seen escaping from or rising from the plate or dome?
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 3:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It was both typical and exotic, hmmm?
Was it a dish that is typical of one region? type? of Chinese cuisine? being served in another region? in a restaurant that specialized in another type of cuisine?

Is who it was being served to relevant? a chinese person? a non-chinese person?

Was it chicken feet? insects of some sort?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 3:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello Valiko!
Is there a specific reason why the waiter not only realized what dish he was bringing, but also that it must be the wrong one? (other than he knew what was ordered) Yes

Would it be helpful to identify the animal(s) from which the meat was? (if so: pig? cow? chicken? duck? fish? shellfish? snake? frog? someone else?) The ordered dish was chicken and the dish on the trolley was duck

Is the shape of the dome relevant? No
Was there something written on the dome? No
on the plate? No

Hello Mosquito!
Was the dish that was brought some sort of sizzling thing? Not relevant

Was the thing that was noticed seen escaping from or rising from the plate or dome? Yes
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 3:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Barbara
It was both typical and exotic, hmmm?
Was it a dish that is typical of one region?
type? of Chinese cuisine? being served in another region? in a restaurant that specialized in another type of cuisine? It is a common dish served in chinese restraunts in England and would appear to emenate from a specific region but there is an "exotic" element that needs exploring here. Beware, although 100% relevant, it could be misleading.


Is who it was being served to relevant? a chinese person? a non-chinese person? No

Was it chicken feet? insects of some sort? Neither
David Burn (Woubit)
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 3:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was this duck actually alive?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 3:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were the customers from the north of england who said 'Hey up duck' and the waiter, not listening properly, thought that was their order?
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 3:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

David

Was this duck actually alive? Apparently so!
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 3:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lynne
Were the customers from the north of england who said 'Hey up duck' and the waiter, not listening properly, thought that was their order? LOL :)
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 5:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Peking Duck

Well done David for achieving the lateral leap.

******************** SPOILER ********************

The young couple in the Chinese restaurant ordered “Chicken Surprise” but as the waiter wheeled the dish to the table, he noticed the domed lid rise from the plate and two beady little eyes peer out at him from underneath the lid. Instantly he realised that he’d made a mistake. Instead of the “Chicken Surprise” he was about to serve “Peking Duck”! *

For those that may not be so familiar with the vernacular, “Peking Duck” is a renowned Chinese dish and “Peking” is pronounced as “peeking”.

This is a variation on an old joke that Tom spotted – hence his correct emailed solution.

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