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Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 10:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the big red thing presently have a single physical location spanning an area no larger than a duck? it's area is definitely no larger than a duck. Whether it 'presently' has it though is up to debate - it would depend on one's personal perception of the world at any one time. [I know this sounds complex, but it's elementary once the FA's cleared up]
If so, is that location: under the earth's surface? withing the earth's atmosphere? elsewhere in the universe? it's location would be elsewhere in the universe - in fact it would be cosmically impossible for it to be on Earth
Is it always the same size? yes If not, is it ever larger than a duck?
Does it have one dimension? two? three? three
Is it solid? liquid? gas? solid
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 10:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would it be:
Free floating in space?
Inside a planet or planetary atmosphere?
Inside a star?
Inside another astronomical body?
Inside a spacecraft or artificial satellite?

Does it have any mass? If so, does it weigh more than a duck?
Ian (Image)
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 12:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the BRT within the solar system? Within the Galaxy? Within x lightyears of the Earth, where x is chosen one by one from the LTPF list of positive integers?

Is the BRT actually smaller than a duck, or does it only appear to be smaller than a duck? If not, I'm very confused.... some solid red thing in space that's smaller than a duck and cannot be on earth... :/
Ian (Image)
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 12:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the BRT part of something bigger?
Mezzoforte (Mezzoforte)
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 3:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is specialized knowledge required? Astrophysics? Theoretical physics? Nuclear physics? Quantum mechanics?

Is the big red thing on the molecular level? Would it help to know how big "big" is?
Mezzoforte (Mezzoforte)
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 3:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it a theoretical particle?
Mezzoforte (Mezzoforte)
Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 3:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Beginnings of the universe relevant? Big bang theory?
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 9:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would it be:
Free floating in space?
Inside a planet or planetary atmosphere?
Inside a star?
Inside another astronomical body? this one
Inside a spacecraft or artificial satellite?

Does it have any mass? i suppose so, yes If so, does it weigh more than a duck? the mass is too small to be at all relevant
Is the BRT within the solar system? Within the Galaxy? lol - depends what Galaxy it is :)... Within x lightyears of the Earth, where x is chosen one by one from the LTPF list of positive integers? x is no defined number, ever changing due to the constant moving of the spaceship in which the BRT is confined - but x is probably in the thousands

Is the BRT actually smaller than a duck, or does it only appear to be smaller than a duck? it is actually smaller If not, I'm very confused.... some solid red thing in space that's smaller than a duck and cannot be on earth... :/ no need to be :) it's pretty much been solved in these questions - it's contained within a spaceship which is not of this Earth, and so cannot go on Earth. (There is another reason why it cannot be on Earth, but that'll probably just mislead for the time being)

Is the BRT part of something bigger? in as much as already discovered, it being in a spaceship

Is specialized knowledge required? Astrophysics? Theoretical physics? Nuclear physics? Quantum mechanics? not in the slightest :) it's in a spaceship which probably employs such knowledge - but this is not required knowledge to solve the puzzle

Is the big red thing on the molecular level? nope Would it help to know how big "big" is? not really - only that it's "big" as compared to other similar objects

Is it a theoretical particle? nooo - nothing as complicated as this :)

Beginnings of the universe relevant? Big bang theory? very tangentially in working out the context of this puzzle, but not relevant to the puzzle itself

It would probably prove useful to discover where this puzzle comes from.
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 9:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just looked back over these last few questions...

Would it be:
Free floating in space?
Inside a planet or planetary atmosphere?
Inside a star?
Inside another astronomical body? this one
Inside a spacecraft or artificial satellite? it's actually this one - a spaceship to be exact :)
Mezzoforte (Mezzoforte)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 10:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this true of made-up? Is it a roating sphere held in magnetic suspension designed to detect the affects of general relativity?
Mezzoforte (Mezzoforte)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 10:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

true OR made-up
Ian (Image)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 10:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the spaceship built on earth?
Or somewhere else? By aliens?

Does this puzzle take place in the present day?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 10:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Antimatter relevant?
Is the BRT from a science fiction story?
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 11:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this true or made-up? made-up :) Is it a roating sphere held in magnetic suspension designed to detect the affects of general relativity? no...

Was the spaceship built on earth? no
Or somewhere else? By aliens? yes to both

Does this puzzle take place in the present day? well, it was the present day...

Antimatter relevant? not as far as i'm aware
Is the BRT from a science fiction story? most certainly :)
Mezzoforte (Mezzoforte)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 12:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So this is something in a science fiction novel which is quite implausible in reality? Is the big red thing used for propulsion of the spaceship? Once we find out what the purpose of the big red thing is, will we know immediately what "it" in the statement of the problem is?
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 1:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

black holes or singularities relevant?
Ian (Image)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 10:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

book? movie? tv show? other?

by Isaac Asimov? Robert Heinlin?

Star Trek? Star Wars?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 10:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Douglas Adams?
Ed Mason (Logician)
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 12:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To save time with answering the questions individually, I'll answer them as one:

The 'Big Red Thing' is not a huge part of the spaceship itself, only a miniscule section, and not at all relevant to the running of the ship itself. The BRT comes from Douglas Adams' books.

It will not be immediately obvious as to the identity of 'it' once the BRT is known, as 'it' is related purely to the LTPF.

Black holes / singularities are irrelevant to this puzzle.


Now the origin is known, we do not need to know anything specific about the Douglas Adams' books, apart from the identity of the BRT.

The next thing to discover will be the thing in the LTPF that I related to the BRT. It may help to look at recent puzzles and consider the act of Woubit.
Mezzoforte (Mezzoforte)
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 12:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

text colour relevant?
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 12:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the "act" a post? On one of woubit's puzzles? His contribution to someone else's puzzle?
Nessa (Lyra)
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 3:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are you relating Woubit's translating Latin (in Haenlomal's puzzle) to a Babelfish?

So, way back when this started, I actually considered asking whether you're a Doug Adams fan because the first thing that popped into my head was the Babelfish disproving the existance of God - but I didn't think that was it, as Babelfish are neither big nor red (in the books, at least). Then again, the AltaVista logo is both big and red...