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Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 11:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Everyone in Lucasta's confirmation class had to pick a virtue to research and write about. She picked peseverence but abruptly switched to joy, although she was no more persevering than joyful. How come??
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 2:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It doesn't seem like there is a necessary reason here...perhaps she just changed her mind? Found out that her friend was doing perserverence? Maybe she is not that bright and can't spell, and couldn't find perserverence in the dictionary? Maybe she was touched by the Holy Spirit and that made her joyful...

Quite possibly she never told her reasons to anyone, so there is no way to find out.
Simon Downham (Beroean)
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 8:29 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

She may have been able to find perserverence in the dictionary but I feel certain that she could not have found anything much on "peseverence" !?

She had perservered with the name, Lucasta, for 16 years but now she decided that it was time that she worked on being more joyful?

Although Perseverence is a virtue, it is not a "fruit of the Spirit" where as Joy is the first quality listed in the fruitage of the Spirit. (Galatians 5:22) Relevant?

Was it more expedient to write about joy for some reason?
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 6:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did she have a speech impediment that hindered/prevented her pronunciation of perseverance?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 10:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 02:19 am:

It doesn't seem like there is a necessary reason here...perhaps she just changed her mind? there is a reason Found out that her friend was doing perserverence? no Maybe she is not that bright and can't spell, and couldn't find perserverence in the dictionary? no Maybe she was touched by the Holy Spirit and that made her joyful...no

Quite possibly she never told her reasons to anyone, so there is no way to find out. no

By Simon Downham (Beroean) on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 08:29 am:

She may have been able to find perserverence in the dictionary but I feel certain that she could not have found anything much on "peseverence" !? no

She had perservered with the name, Lucasta, for 16 years but now she decided that it was time that she worked on being more joyful? She LOVED having an unusual name; it's being named 'Catherine" or 'Sarah' that requires perseverance. No insult intended to the Catherines or Sarahs on this forum; each to his own

Although Perseverence is a virtue, it is not a "fruit of the Spirit" where as Joy is the first quality listed in the fruitage of the Spirit. (Galatians 5:22) Relevant? no

Was it more expedient to write about joy for some reason? yesish or yope

By Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters) on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 06:02 pm:

did she have a speech impediment that hindered/prevented her pronunciation of perseverance?no
Drew Sollenberger (Sollen)
Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 4:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The irony that she did not preserver on her idea to write about perseverance important?

Does the quality have to apply to the individual(did she have to joyful to write about joy?) For that mater did she have to 'demonstrate' the quality she wished to write about? And it takes much less effort to demonstrate joy then perseverance?

Does an individual demonstrating or possessing either trait important? The trait itself important? Would it work for other traits? If the same traits had different connotations then we are use to?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 8:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Drew Sollenberger (Sollen) on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 04:13 am:

The irony that she did not preserver on her idea to write about perseverance important? no

Does the quality have to apply to the individual(did she have to joyful to write about joy?) no For that mater did she have to 'demonstrate' the quality she wished to write about? no And it takes much less effort to demonstrate joy then perseverance? irrel

Does an individual demonstrating or possessing either trait important? no The trait itself important? yope Would it work for other traits? some If the same traits had different connotations then we are use to? yes
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 9:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

When she switched, had she already started researching? had she already started writing?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 10:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 09:10 pm:

When she switched, had she already started researching?irrel had she already started writing? ditto
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 5:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is her age relevant?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 6:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Tim A. Dowd (Bodo) on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 05:00 pm:

Is her age relevant? no
John Faben (Bentarm)
Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 3:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it more relevant that she switched from perseverance or to joy?
Had she chosen 'honesty' would she still have wanted to switch to joy? If she had originally chosen Forgiveness? Humility? Compassion? Gratitude?
Might she have chosen to switch to any of these others instead of joy?
Is any knowledge of Catholic theology necessary to solve this puzzle?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 7:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By John Faben (Bentarm) on Saturday, January 28, 2006 - 03:44 pm:Hi Bentarm!! Nice to see you're back!!:):):):)

Is it more relevant that she switched from perseverance or to joy? both
Had she chosen 'honesty' would she still have wanted to switch to joy? If she had originally chosen Forgiveness? Humility? Compassion? Gratitude? yes to all
Might she have chosen to switch to any of these others instead of joy?Possibly, if for some reason she couldn't switch to joy. Joy would be more desirable
Is any knowledge of Catholic theology necessary to solve this puzzle? no
Katy (Katy)
Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 1:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it relevant that 'Joy' is also a girl's name?
Drew Sollenberger (Sollen)
Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 6:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

relevant what was nessesary for the essay? was she required to do something particular to write this essay?

was it easier for her to write an essay on joy? hard for her to write an essay on peserverance? did she simply 'like' joy more?

it occurse to me that joy is the smallest number of letters and peserverance the largest out of all the qualities listed. did she have reason to want a short word? possible she had to do something for each letter so the fewer letters the less work?
John Morahan (Wunderland)
Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 7:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did some event occur which caused her to switch? or did she just decide to change her mind after thinking it over?
John Faben (Bentarm)
Posted on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 1:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are characteristics of the word joy relevant? Of the concept of joy?
Might she equally well have chosen to switch to joy if were called, say 'jubilance'? 'elation'?

Is it, say, that the books on joy were on a lower shelf in the library (j being before p) and Lucasta is too short to reach the others?

Was Lucasta a particularly joyful person? relevant?
Tony (E20)
Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 7:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the task involve writing the word in illuminated script?

Did the task invovle writing a paragraph (or a sentence? or a word?) starting with each letter of the chosen virtue?
Felicia Nimue Ackerman (Nimue)
Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 10:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Katy (Katy) on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 01:31 pm:

Is it relevant that 'Joy' is also a girl's name? no

By Drew Sollenberger (Sollen) on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 06:52 pm:

relevant what was nessesary for the essay?yes was she required to do something particular to write this essay?yes

was it easier for her to write an essay on joy?yope hard for her to write an essay on peserverance? yope did she simply 'like' joy more? no

it occurse to me that joy is the smallest number of letters and peserverance the largest out of all the qualities listed. did she have reason to want a short word? yes possible she had to do something for each letter so the fewer letters the less work? yes!!

By John Morahan (Wunderland) on Sunday, January 29, 2006 - 07:43 pm:

Did some event occur which caused her to switch? yes or did she just decide to change her mind after thinking it over? no

By John Faben (Bentarm) on Monday, January 30, 2006 - 01:12 am:

Are characteristics of the word joy relevant? yes Of the concept of joy? no
Might she equally well have chosen to switch to joy if were called, say 'jubilance'? not quite 'elation'? ditto

Is it, say, that the books on joy were on a lower shelf in the library (j being before p) and Lucasta is too short to reach the others? no

Was Lucasta a particularly joyful person? irrel relevant? no
By Tony (E20) on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 07:05 pm:

Did the task involve writing the word in illuminated script? YES!!

Did the task invovle writing a paragraph (or a sentence? or a word?) starting with each letter of the chosen virtue? no
*****SPOILER************
Lucasta changed her viturue from perseverence to joy when she learned that the essay had to be headed with the name of the chosen virtue in illuminated calligraphy. She'a lazy, so.... Sorry it was so easay but please check out my new, harder one

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