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Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 6:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why is it that the pilots in the air force generally wear bigger shirts than the mechanics, even when they are off duty?

Easy one for the Christmas season.
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 7:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I sense a bad pun here...

physical build relevant?
monitoring equipment the pilot wears relevant?
a play on words relevant here?
ego relevant?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Monday, December 26, 2005 - 9:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it to allow for bullet-proof or other protective clothing underneath?
Chengappa C B (Chengappacb)
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 8:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this a true fact ?
Bigger: Lengthier? / Broader? / of a much larger size ? Two sizes larger ? Relevant ?
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 3:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lewis, Lynne and Chenga

physical build relevant?
YES

monitoring equipment the pilot wears relevant?
YES

a play on words relevant here?
NO

ego relevant?
NO

Is it to allow for bullet-proof or other protective clothing underneath?
NO

Is this a true fact ?
ALLEGEDLY

Bigger: Lengthier? / Broader? / of a much larger size ? Two sizes larger ? Relevant ?
YES, YES, NO, NO, A LITTLE
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 6:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

are the mechanics purposely hired/selected because of their small stature so that they can fit inside the tight spaces inside the access tunnels in the planes?
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 9:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lewis,

are the mechanics purposely hired/selected because of their small stature so that they can fit inside the tight spaces inside the access tunnels in the planes?

NO - BUT A GOOD IDEA
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 9:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So a pilot and a mechanic of the same height and build would wear differently sized shirts?

Do we need to find precisely the type of monitoring equipment that a pilot wears?
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 11:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lynne,

So a pilot and a mechanic of the same height and build would wear differently sized shirts?
YES

Do we need to find precisely the type of monitoring equipment that a pilot wears?
NO - NOT PRECISELY
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 1:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it something like a satellite navigation thingy that identifies exactly where he is, so that if he is hijacked or comes down in the sea he can be traced relatively accurately?
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 7:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lynne,

Is it something like a satellite navigation thingy that identifies exactly where he is, so that if he is hijacked or comes down in the sea he can be traced relatively accurately?
NO
CHECK YOUR ASSUMPTIONS FIRST PLEASE
Drew Sollenberger (Sollen)
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 8:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

so even when off duty the piolots would have larger shirts? due to monitering equipment? dod they tend to wear something else that requires a larger shirt? tend to need to put something in a pocket/attach something to a shirt that effects type of shirt they wear?

do they tend to wear different style of shirt which leads to larger shirt; or would they wear same type of shirt but one being larger?

do pilots perfer baggy/looser fit? are the larger shirts result in looser fit? do the shirts not result in loose fit because of a difference in build? due to a difference in way the pilots were the shirt?

is the idea that piolts just sit in the cockpit so long that the get fat from lack of activity? :)
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 12:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

CHECK YOUR ASSUMPTIONS FIRST PLEASE

OK - I'd forgotten that they were Air Force pilots as opposed to commercial pilots but I would still consider that they could be vulnerable to personal attack.
So - do commercial pilots wear larger shirts than their mechanics?

Would a tighter fitting shirt cause more friction or static around the monitoring equipment?
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 10:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Drew,

so even when off duty the piolots would have larger shirts?
YES

due to monitering equipment?
LOOSELY YES

do they tend to wear something else that requires a larger shirt? tend to need to put something in a pocket/attach something to a shirt that effects type of shirt they wear?
NO

do they tend to wear different style of shirt which leads to larger shirt; or would they wear same type of shirt but one being larger?
NO, YES

do pilots perfer baggy/looser fit?
NO

are the larger shirts result in looser fit?
YES

do the shirts not result in loose fit because of a difference in build?
PLEASE REPHRASE

due to a difference in way the pilots were the shirt?
NO

is the idea that piolts just sit in the cockpit so long that the get fat from lack of activity?
NO
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 10:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

LYNNE,

I'd forgotten that they were Air Force pilots as opposed to commercial pilots but I would still consider that they could be vulnerable to personal attack.
So - do commercial pilots wear larger shirts than their mechanics?
NO

Would a tighter fitting shirt cause more friction or static around the monitoring equipment?
NO OR IRRELEVANT
Drew Sollenberger (Sollen)
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 4:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

okay; were the pilots wearing the loose shirts wearing/using the monitoring equipment when they wore the shirts off duty? was the monitoring equipment only relevant when the pilots were on duty?

was wearing the lose shirts to make room for the monitoring equipment? to help the equipment work better? because something about the equipment made it uncomfortable to wear a tight fit? because they somehow hoped to trick or affect what the monitoring eqipment stated?

relevent what the 'monitoring equipment' is?

would it be more accurate to say pilots have to wear larger shirts then the average indidual losely due to monitoring equipment? or that technicians generaly had to wear tighter shirts then the average individual due losely to monitoring equipment? are neither accurate? neither more accurate then the other?
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 5:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Drew,

okay; were the pilots wearing the loose shirts wearing/using the monitoring equipment when they wore the shirts off duty?
NO

was the monitoring equipment only relevant when the pilots were on duty?
YES

was wearing the lose shirts to make room for the monitoring equipment?
NO

to help the equipment work better?
NO

because something about the equipment made it uncomfortable to wear a tight fit?
DIFFICULT POINT - NO - NOT REALLY

because they somehow hoped to trick or affect what the monitoring eqipment stated?
NO

relevent what the 'monitoring equipment' is?
YES

would it be more accurate to say pilots have to wear larger shirts then the average indidual losely due to monitoring equipment?
YES

or that technicians generaly had to wear tighter shirts then the average individual due losely to monitoring equipment?
NO
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 5:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the monitoring equipment worn under or over their shirt?
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 6:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lynne,

Is the monitoring equipment worn under or over their shirt?
NO
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 6:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Aha - the false assumption.
Earlier there was a question from Lewis: monitoring equipment the pilot wears relevant?
YES

Do they wear the equipment? Or do they wear something that attaches to the equipment when it's in use? Or do they just need a loose shirt because of something else to do with using the equipment?

Is the monitoring equipment in the plane?
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 7:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lynne,

Do they wear the equipment?
YES

Or do they wear something that attaches to the equipment when it's in use?
YES AND NO BUT NOT VERY RELEVANT

Or do they just need a loose shirt because of something else to do with using the equipment?
YES - SOMEWHAT

Is the monitoring equipment in the plane?
SOMETIMES YES
Drew Sollenberger (Sollen)
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2005 - 8:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

does monitoring equipment cause them to to do something else which in turn results in the the loose clothing?

does the monitoring equipment montor something about the pilots physical being? for sake of keeping him healthy/alive? his heart rate?

is the way the equipment is worn important? where it is worn? the fact that it is worn for long periods of time?