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Arjun (Jun)
Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 7:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Warming up; this might have even been asked before...Very early spiolers please email
In California, what is the second shortest month in the year?
Kristoffer Dominique Albeus (Kristoffer)
Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 8:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

emailed.
Arjun (Jun)
Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 8:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Replied: Nope I'm afraid not.
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 10:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

November?
Kristoffer Dominique Albeus (Kristoffer)
Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 10:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We also have to figure out why, right?

Jan? Feb? Mar? Apr? May? Jun? Jul? Aug? Sep? Oct? Nov? Dec?

Noypi ka b?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 11:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry, I was wrong. The second-shortest month is June.

June is the shortest of the 30-day months, because then the earth is the farthest from the sun. The earths orbit around the sun is slightly elliptical, which means that it moves the slowest in its orbit when it is the farthest away, which is in June.

The direction of earth's rotation about its own axis is the same as the direction in which it orbits the sun. This means that during a year, in which we experience approximately 365 1/4 day, the earth rotates 366 1/4 times about its axis - one rotation is cancelled by earth's orbiting the sun. Since the earth moves faster in its orbit during late northern-hemisphere autumn, winter and early spring, the larger part of the one-day "delay" will come in these months. The smallest proportional part will come in midsummer, which means June.

The days of June are a tiny bit shorter than those of, say, December, making the whole month a little bit shorter.
Mosquito (Mosquito)
Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 4:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is June a whole hour shorter than usual, though, so that it is shorter than April, when most countries set their clocks forward?
Arjun (Jun)
Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 4:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Torgeir Apeland (Abc) on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 10:08 am:


November?
Nope

By Kristoffer Dominique Albeus (Kristoffer) on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 10:12 am:


We also have to figure out why, right?
Yes :)

Jan? Feb? Mar? Apr? May? Jun? Jul? Aug? Sep? Oct? Nov? Dec?
Well, I'm wondering if I should answer this question. It is one of these (if that's any consolation), but I'll let you figure out why before giving it away...sorry! You can guess a month if you have an explanation in mind, though

Noypi ka b?
Huh? Is that Philipino?


By Torgeir Apeland (Abc) on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 11:34 am:


Sorry, I was wrong. The second-shortest month is June.


Interesting explanation. While what you say may be true, we do not account for this while counting the days in June, for example. A unit of time is counted by some radio-active material, so that should not change things. Thanks for the very interesting information, though :)
Kristoffer Dominique Albeus (Kristoffer)
Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 5:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

with shortest month, you mean the month with the least number of hours (or minutes or seconds)?

or is it the spelling?

does it have to do with font?

does california refer to the US State? or is it a movie? a song? a poem? (if any)..
Arjun (Jun)
Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 5:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Kristoffer Dominique Albeus (Kristoffer) on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 05:26 pm:


with shortest month, you mean the month with the least number of hours (or minutes or seconds)?
Yes

or is it the spelling?
No

does it have to do with font?
No

does california refer to the US State? This one or is it a movie? a song? a poem? (if any)..
Ian (Image)
Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 6:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would the same month also be shortest in Florida? In Ontario? In British Columbia? In England? In China? In Japan? In Australia? In Brazil? In South Africa?
Arjun (Jun)
Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 6:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Ian (Image) on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 06:27 pm:

Let's see how many of these I can answer...ns=not sure

Would the same month also be shortest in Florida?
Yes

In Ontario?
ns

In British Columbia?
ns

In England?
No

In China?
No

In Japan?
ns

In Australia? In Brazil? In South Africa?
No


Some comments: This answer will not hold from 2007 onwards, but has nothing to do with geography. The 'no's in the replies above may be for a different reason in each case.
Arjun (Jun)
Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 7:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Mosquito (Mosquito) on Wednesday, February 01, 2006 - 04:29 pm:


Is June a whole hour shorter than usual, though, so that it is shorter than April, when most countries set their clocks forward?
You pretty much got the idea. Spioler coming up, but if you want to re-do the details just a little bit...
KB (Angelbabe07)
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 4:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm not sure if this has n e thing to do wih it but, this year we skipped like a hallf-second in Januray, when we changed to the New year...so is it January?
Ian (Image)
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 7:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No, its because of daylight savings time. I'm not sure which month people set their clocks ahead an hour (Is it March? April?) but this month would have one hour less than all the other months with 30 days. And October would have one hour more.
Arjun (Jun)
Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 10:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By KB (Angelbabe07) on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 04:51 am:


I'm not sure if this has n e thing to do wih it but, this year we skipped like a hallf-second in Januray, when we changed to the New year...so is it January?

No, Ian has it...

By Ian (Image) on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 07:02 pm:


No, its because of daylight savings time. I'm not sure which month people set their clocks ahead an hour (Is it March? April?) but this month would have one hour less than all the other months with 30 days. And October would have one hour more.

Yes, well done. In the US, in most states, the clocks are set one hour ahead in April. This means April, which normally has 30 days, has one hour less in the states that follow daylight-saving.
But I hear they are going to switch to March from 2007 onwards (and March is when it is done in most parts of Europe I think), so this puzzle won't hold from next year...

Thanks to all who participated.

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Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 12:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

* Banging head into screen *

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