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Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 6:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she agree to go hanggliding because she felt guilty about 'Waterford'?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 8:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Had they previously had hang-gliding conversations? Yes
And he had wanted to try it but she had refused? No, FA
Was she scared? Yes
Did these events change her mind? Yope
Did it cure her of a phobia? Yope
Was she terminally ill? No
Did the word 'waterford' mean anything to Rosie? Not more than usual for a brit.
Is aphasia relevant? Not sure what that is, but I think not.
Are any properties of the words 'waterford' and 'hercule holmes' relevant? No
would finding 'hercule holmes' on a piece of paper in his wife's pocket have delighted Jim? Yes
Is 'waterford' some sort of code? No a code that Jim was able to crack? Noish
Ian (Image)
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 10:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would it still work if Jim had returned the same piece of paper to her pocket? If he had wrote Hercule Holmes on the piece of paper that had Waterford on it and returned it to her pocket then? If he had placed a blank piece of cardboard into her pocket? Relevant that it was cardboard and not paper?

Was Rosie healthy? Had she been healthy prior to these events? And the paper somehow told Jim that she had recovered?
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 11:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

February 15, 2006 - 06:48 pm: if you please :)
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 6:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

February 15, 2006 - 06:48 pm: if you please But of course, ma'am
Did she agree to go hanggliding because she felt guilty about 'Waterford'? No

Would it still work if Jim had returned the same piece of paper to her pocket? No
If he had wrote Hercule Holmes on the piece of paper that had Waterford on it and returned it to her pocket then? Probably not
If he had placed a blank piece of cardboard into her pocket? Maybe
Relevant that it was cardboard and not paper? No

Was Rosie healthy? Yes, but for her phobia concerning hanggliding
Had she been healthy prior to these events? Yes
And the paper somehow told Jim that she had recovered? No
Lynne (Lynne)
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 9:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So the only relevant health fact about Rosie was her phobia?
Does Waterford have anything to do with crystal?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 10:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So the only relevant health fact about Rosie was her phobia? Yes
Does Waterford have anything to do with crystal? Not that I know about
Howard Baynes (Zowie)
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 11:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does hypnotism have anything to do with this, such as the words act as a trigger for addressing a phobia?
Z
- (Alchema_Exmovre)
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 11:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

does she not like hanggliding because of a medical condition?
because of a heart condition?
is the occupation of any of the forementioned people relevent?
are ages relevant?
is she happy about going hanggliding?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 2:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Howard Baynes (Zowie) on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 11:08 pm:


Does hypnotism have anything to do with this, such as the words act as a trigger for addressing a phobia? Noish
Z

By - (Alchema_Exmovre) on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 11:32 pm:


does she not like hanggliding because of a medical condition?
because of a heart condition?
We have established that she is afraid of it. Apart from that, she has nothing against it, medical or otherwise
is the occupation of any of the forementioned people relevent? No
are ages relevant? No
is she happy about going hanggliding? Reasonably, yes
Katy (Katy)
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 3:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was she cured of the phobia in the period the puzzle covers? Did she believe she was?
Ian (Image)
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 10:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was she afraid simply of hang gliding? Or of something else involved in hang gliding? Heights? Open space? Luposlipophopia? (The fear of being chased by wolves around a kitchen table on a newly waxed floor while wearing only socks)
Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc)
Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 10:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hi Torgy :) This sounds interesting..

are any of these relevant about the waterford card - the size? shape? colour? thickness?
could this work if the word had been written on a pice of thin blue paper? could it work if there was no word written on the card?
could this work if he had found the card in a pocket other than a coat pocket? if he had found it in her handbag? if he had found it lying somewhere in the house?

is it relevant that the card he writes on is similar to the one he finds in his wife's pocket? would it work if he only had a piece of thin blue paper to write on?

at what point did she change her mind about hangliding - before she put the card in her pocket? after that but before he found it? after that but before she saw the card he put in her pocket? after that but before they speak again? only after they speak again following the second card?

does she change her mind because he found the card? does finding the 1st card tell him that she has changed her mind? does finding the 2nd card change her mind? does what he said afterwards change her mind? is her mind changed by some event not mentioned in the puzzle statement? is it even relevant why she changed her mind? has she been persuaded by someone?

when he found the card had he been expecting to find something else relevant? had he had reason to be suspicious of her? did the card somehow cause him to stop being suspicious?

did finding the 1st card tell him something about her state of mind? her actions? her intended actions? where she had been?

had he seen a similar card in the past which meant he now knew what this one signified?

is it relevant how long the card had been in her pocket? relevant where she had got it from?

if he had found the card but not replaced it with another would she still have agreed to go hangliding? if he had found the card and just told her that he had found it might she still have gone hangliding?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 7:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Katy (Katy) on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 03:58 pm:


Was she cured of the phobia in the period the puzzle covers? No
Did she believe she was? Well, in that case, she would be cured, now, wouldn't she? (: Anyway, no.

By Ian (Image) on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 10:40 pm:


Was she afraid simply of hang gliding? Or of something else involved in hang gliding? Heights? Exactly which part of the hanggliding experience scared her is not very relevant. Probably a bit of eac of these.
Open space? Probably not this Luposlipophopia? (The fear of being chased by wolves around a kitchen table on a newly waxed floor while wearing only socks) But this, of course, plays a major role.

By Hannah Kinghern (Kdoc) on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 10:47 pm:

Hi, Hannah! What an unexpected surprise!
Hi Torgy This sounds interesting..

are any of these relevant about the waterford card - the size? shape? colour? thickness? None of these are relevant
could this work if the word had been written on a pice of thin blue paper? Yes
could it work if there was no word written on the card? Maybe, but let's say no.
could this work if he had found the card in a pocket other than a coat pocket? Yes
if he had found it in her handbag? Yes
if he had found it lying somewhere in the house? Yes. Slightly less probable, though

is it relevant that the card he writes on is similar to the one he finds in his wife's pocket? A bit.
would it work if he only had a piece of thin blue paper to write on? Maybe. It's safer for him to use an identical card type, though

at what point did she change her mind about hangliding - before she put the card in her pocket? after that but before he found it? after that but before she saw the card he put in her pocket? after that but before they speak again? This is important, but... only after they speak again following the second card? ...this one is strictly the correct answer

does she change her mind because he found the card? No
does finding the 1st card tell him that she has changed her mind? No
does finding the 2nd card change her mind? Not exactly, but...
does what he said afterwards change her mind? Yes, but bear the previous answer in mind.
is her mind changed by some event not mentioned in the puzzle statement? Yes, but you've already touched heavily on it.
is it even relevant why she changed her mind? Yes
has she been persuaded by someone? No

when he found the card had he been expecting to find something else relevant? No
had he had reason to be suspicious of her? No
did the card somehow cause him to stop being suspicious? So no

did finding the 1st card tell him something about her state of mind? Oh, tricky... Yesish
her actions? Yope, for lack of a better answer
her intended actions? Same as previous where she had been? No

had he seen a similar card in the past which meant he now knew what this one signified? No

is it relevant how long the card had been in her pocket? No relevant where she had got it from? Noish

if he had found the card but not replaced it with another would she still have agreed to go hangliding? No
if he had found the card and just told her that he had found it might she still have gone hangliding? No
Ian (Image)
Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2006 - 10:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the man delighted upon finding the card simply because he knows that he can make his wife agree to go hang gliding?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 8:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the man delighted upon finding the card simply because he knows that he can make his wife agree to go hang gliding? Yes
Katy (Katy)
Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 9:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So is this a code that has been previously agreed?
"his wife agrees to go hanggliding with him " is the exact content of this conversation relevant?
So the cards would work best if they're identical? Is that because his wife should believe or presume that the word "Waterford" has changed by magic into "Hercule Holmes"? (i.e. it's the same card?) That "Waterford" has been erased? That it's on the back of the card?
Or is she not intended to believe that it's the same card?
Josh Manzano (Themanzano)
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 8:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

does the statement "waterford" signify solely the fact that she has changed her mind about going hanggliding?
is "HH" an acknowledgement or her changing her mind?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 8:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So is this a code that has been previously agreed? No, there is no code.
"his wife agrees to go hanggliding with him " is the exact content of this conversation relevant? No, he just asks her to do it, and she agrees
So the cards would work best if they're identical? Yes, I think so
Is that because his wife should believe or presume that the word "Waterford" has changed by magic into "Hercule Holmes"? Not exactly, but close
(i.e. it's the same card? Yes (with a tiny ish))
That "Waterford" has been erased? Noish
That it's on the back of the card? No
Or is she not intended to believe that it's the same card? She is intended to believe it's the same card. With a tiny ish. (:
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 3:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Josh Manzano (Themanzano) on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 08:16 am:


does the statement "waterford" signify solely the fact that she has changed her mind about going hanggliding? No
is "HH" an acknowledgement or her changing her mind? No
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 4:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

answer to prayers relevant?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 4:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters) on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 04:03 pm:


answer to prayers relevant? No