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Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 4:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is it simply a case of "if the food tastes this good, the floor must taste great" because there is so much of it on the floor? No...there's much more to it than that. A lot of information has not even be touched yet.
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 2:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chinese restaurant?

Was your uncle actually in the kitchen?

Was it based on something he saw? If so, something he saw in the kitchen? Restroom? Menu?

Something he heard? Heard tell of? Overheard? A herd of something?
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 4:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chinese restaurant? Yes

Was your uncle actually in the kitchen? Yes

Was it based on something he saw? Yes If so, something he saw in the kitchen? This one Restroom? Menu?

Something he heard? Heard tell of? Overheard? A herd of something? None of these
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Monday, January 02, 2006 - 1:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it something he saw on the floor? Something someone was doing? Something that's normally associated with the floor (e. g. a mop bucket, floor cleaning product etc.)?
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Monday, January 02, 2006 - 4:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it something he saw on the floor? Yope Something someone was doing? Yes Something that's normally associated with the floor (e. g. a mop bucket, floor cleaning product etc.)? No'ish

Perhaps it's time for a New Year's...

HINTS and RECAP

My uncle worked as a waiter in a Chinese restaurant, specializing in Cantonese cuisine. While working on the main evening shift, he observed something being done by someone in the restaurant kitchen that, after a series of events, lead him to think that the kitchen floor must taste good. The state of the kitchen floor is such that can be expected of any Chinese restaurant after a full work day. (i.e. not the cleanest). Your job is to discover the "series of events" referenced above.

Some hints:

1) As indicated above, my uncle worked as a waiter. This is somewhat relevant, as it made him a direct participant in the events of this puzzle rather than just as an observer.

2) The Chinese restaurant specialized in Cantonese cuisine.

3) There are two more directly relevant people in this puzzle. Both of them are adults, and their gender is irrelevant (though if my memory serves me correctly, both of them are male). Nothing at all is known about them, and shedding some light on these players will help immensely in moving this puzzle forward.
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 5:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was someone looking for something they dropped on the floor, and it appeared that they were eating off of it?
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 3:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was someone looking for something they dropped on the floor, and it appeared that they were eating off of it? No
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 7:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are they (the other two) employees? Customers? Health inspectors?

If employees, are they cooking? Cleaning? Waiting on tables? Preparing food? Bartending? Managing? Stocking? Doing business stuff (e. g. bookkeeping, counting money etc.)?

Were they doing the same thing? Was it something they were doing that made him think that? Something they weren't doing?
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 9:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are they (the other two) employees? One of them is this Customers? And the other one is this Health inspectors?

If employees, are they cooking? Yes, for that one employee -- he's a cook. Cleaning? Waiting on tables? Preparing food? Bartending? Managing? Stocking? Doing business stuff (e. g. bookkeeping, counting money etc.)? None of the rest

Were they doing the same thing? N/A Was it something they were doing that made him think that? Yes -- it was a combination of something that was done by the cook and something that was done by the customer that lead to the thought. Something they weren't doing?
Robert Banfield (Robertino)
Posted on Saturday, January 14, 2006 - 2:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK - how about this: the customer, a regular at this restaurant, was being served by your uncle and observed that the particular dish he had just eaten tasted better than it had ever done at this particular restaurant.

Your uncle had, however, witnessed that some (all?) of the food on this particular occasion had somehow come into contact with the floor (maybe the cook had dropped it/put it there?). So, if it tasted better, maybe it was the floor that lent it's particualr flavour to the dish... (!)
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 5:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK - how about this: the customer, a regular at this restaurant, was being served by your uncle and observed that the particular dish he had just eaten tasted better than it had ever done at this particular restaurant. No to this part

Your uncle had, however, witnessed that some (all?) of the food on this particular occasion had somehow come into contact with the floor (maybe the cook had dropped it/put it there?). So, if it tasted better, maybe it was the floor that lent it's particualr flavour to the dish... (!) But this part is actually pretty close! And the cook did NOT drop it there....
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 11:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did the customer enjoy it so much that even though he accidentally dropped it on the floor, he picked it back up and finished eating it anyway?
Jennifer (Tigger32382)
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 2:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did the cook put it there on purpose? did he add something from the floor to the dish? is the exact food ordered relevant? did the customer do anything relevant other than eating the food?
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 3:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lzeiters

did the customer enjoy it so much that even though he accidentally dropped it on the floor, he picked it back up and finished eating it anyway? No, nothing like this, I'm afraid...

Tigger32382

did the cook put it there on purpose? YES -- good question! did he add something from the floor to the dish? Yes -- though "add" is perhaps not the most accurate way to describe it. is the exact food ordered relevant? YES -- good question! did the customer do anything relevant other than eating the food? YES -- good question!

Good job in opening the door to angles that haven't been touched on yet in this puzzle. :)
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 6:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the customer send it back?
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 6:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the customer send it back? Yes :)

I think enough information has been uncovered that someone can try to put it all together. Care to do the honours? :)
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 8:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I can only do honors, on accounta I'm from the U. S.

The customer sent her/his dish back with some complaint; the chef proceded to drop/rub it on the floor (randomly adding extra "spices and herbs") then sent it back out, after which the patron consumed it without complaint?
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 9:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I can only do honors, on accounta I'm from the U. S. You say "po-TA-toe", I say "po-TAH-toe"....

The customer sent her/his dish back with some complaint; the chef proceded to drop/rub it on the floor (randomly adding extra "spices and herbs") then sent it back out, after which the patron consumed it without complaint? Yes, this is basically it.

There's enough now for me to justify a $poiler, but do you want to go for that extra bit? Namely, why would the chef be so pissed off by the complaint that he would drop and rub the food on the floor?
Lewis Zeiters (Lzeiters)
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 4:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the dish served raw?

do the cook and the patron know each other?
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 5:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the dish served raw? No

do the cook and the patron know each other? No
Tim A. Dowd (Bodo)
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 3:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the customer claim it wasn't authentic? Was missing something? That they were trying to cheat him/her? That it contained low-quality ingredients?
Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 3:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the customer claim it wasn't authentic? Was missing something? That they were trying to cheat him/her? That it contained low-quality ingredients? No to all

Small hint in whitetext: Remember, it is relevant that this is a Cantonese cuisine Chinese restaurant. Also, recall that what the customer ordered was relevant.