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Laura Kozma (Lkozma)
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 8:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does she work for an art gallery? Graphic design firm? Fashion designer?

Are the obstacles: human? animal? weather related?

Is the danger life threatening?

Are there protestors outside (or near) the building?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 8:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does she work for an art gallery? Graphic design firm? No to these
Fashion designer? Yes
Are the obstacles: human? This is an element, yes
animal? weather related? No to all
Is the danger life threatening? Could be, at times
Are there protestors outside (or near) the building? No
Warwick Bassett (Lemon_Martini)
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 9:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there a border or checkpoint or something similar in the way?
Is she in an Arab country?
Laura Kozma (Lkozma)
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 9:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does she work with fur? If so, does she pass some sort of animal rights organization?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 9:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there a border or checkpoint or something similar in the way? No
Is she in an Arab country? No
B. Johnson (Sycorax)
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 4:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would her hours at the new job be different?
Would she encounter more traffic during her commute to the new job?
Stephen (Stevish)
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 5:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the obstacle a train crossing?
Bridge that opens up for boats (I don't know what they're called)?
Is it a place where a large amount of livestock cross the road making it temporarily impassable?

Is the road temporarily impassable for some other reason?

Is the country she lives in relevant? The US? England? Spain? Anywhere in Europe? Africa? South/North America? Australia? Asia?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 3:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does she work with fur? Sometimes, possibly
If so, does she pass some sort of animal rights organization? No, N/A
Would her hours at the new job be different? Probably similar to current hours
Would she encounter more traffic during her commute to the new job? YES AND NO, EXPLORE...
Is the obstacle a train crossing? No
Bridge that opens up for boats (I don't know what they're called)? No
Is it a place where a large amount of livestock cross the road making it temporarily impassable? No
Is the road temporarily impassable for some other reason? No
Is the country she lives in relevant? It may help
The US? Yes
England? Spain? Anywhere in Europe? Africa? South/North America? Australia? Asia?
I know for certain that the situation here would be likely to happen in the U.S., I am not sure about in other countries
Christiane Scharf (0815)
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 3:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the road she would have to use a highway? country road? city road? dirt road? Is it forbidden for pedestrians and bicycles to be on this road?

Are pedestrians on the road? Animals? Slow vehicles? Is the weather an obstacle? Is the road not passable at times? Is it a private road? Is there a speed limit for her?

Is the building where she would work in a city? in a small town? in a village? standing alone? on an island? Is this relevant?

Would she be distracted by something on the way which would make her linger? Would this be something that has to do with her job?
Mo (Hakkunamatata)
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 4:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Can she take the same route to go to the new work place, just go one mile ahead? or should she have to take a different route to the new work place?

It is the route thats the concern? If so if she had a different route to take that's easier and hazzle free to the new work place will she take the job?

Is it traffic related? Traffic after she crosses her current work place is more? dangerous traffic? dangerous drivers? worst intersections? worst roads? worst road conditions? Is any of these relevent?
Mo (Hakkunamatata)
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 4:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If he could park the car at her old work place and just walk the mile would it help her taking the job? (hey early morning walk is always great) or would she be afraid to walk on that route?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 4:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the road she would have to use a highway? Yes country road? No city road? Yes
dirt road? No Is it forbidden for pedestrians and bicycles to be on this road? Yes, on this type of road

Are pedestrians on the road? No
Animals? No
Slow vehicles? Yes, very likely, keep going with this one...
Is the weather an obstacle? Not really
Is the road not passable at times? Well, possibly, but this is not the main problem with it
Is it a private road? No
Is there a speed limit for her? Same as for everyone

Is the building where she would work in a city? Yes
in a small town? in a village? No to these
standing alone? Maybe, not relevant
on an island? No Is this relevant? The location of the buildings is relevant to a degree

Would she be distracted by something on the way which would make her linger? No
Would this be something that has to do with her job? No

Can she take the same route to go to the new work place, just go one mile ahead? Yes, this is what she would do
or should she have to take a different route to the new work place? No, for the most part it's the same

It is the route thats the concern? Yes
If so if she had a different route to take that's easier and hazzle free to the new work place will she take the job? Yes, most certainly

Is it traffic related? YES
Traffic after she crosses her current work place is more? No, not in this area
dangerous traffic? Possibly, yes
dangerous drivers? Possibly, yes
worst intersections? worst roads? worst road conditions? Is any of these relevent? These may all be relevant at times, but the main concern is simply...?

If she could park the car at her old work place and just walk the mile would it help her taking the job? (hey early morning walk is always great) or would she be afraid to walk on that route? Good question - it would be possible for her to park at her current workplace, and she would not be afraid to walk the mile, but there is a valid reason that she would not opt to do this
Christiane Scharf (0815)
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 4:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So there are probably slow vehicles. Are they trucks? heavy transports? tractors? tanks? any other military vehicles? mopeds? government cars? coaches? is there a wedding chapel near so that there are often parade cars? any other parades? soapboxes?
Do the slow vehicles have 2 wheels? 3? 4? more?
Mo (Hakkunamatata)
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 4:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do we need to find out what part of the traffic is causing her to forgo the job?

Is it parking related? Is this about downtown traffic? Bumper to bumper traffic?

Good question - it would be possible for her to park at her current workplace, and she would not be afraid to walk the mile, but there is a valid reason that she would not opt to do this

b'coz she needs the car for her job? b'coz she cannot park at the current work place? b'coz it is dangerous to park anywhere else? she doesn't like to walk? she cannot walk? Is she physically disabled? mentally disabled? Is any of these relevent?

Is the area that's under traffic is it a highway? routes? street? roads? lanes? others?
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 5:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So there are probably slow vehicles. And probably fast vehicles, at times...
Are they trucks? Some of them may be, yesheavy transports? Possibly
tractors? tanks? Not likely
any other military vehicles? Maybe
mopeds? Not likely
government cars? Sure, likely
coaches? Maybe
is there a wedding chapel near so that there are often parade cars? any other parades? soapboxes?
No
Do the slow vehicles have 2 wheels? 3? 4? more?
Standard automobiles and trucks

Do we need to find out what part of the traffic is causing her to forgo the job? well...there is an aspect of traffic that influences her decision, yes

Is it parking related? No
Is this about downtown traffic? Bumper to bumper traffic? YES TO BOTH

Good question - it would be possible for her to park at her current workplace, and she would not be afraid to walk the mile, but there is a valid reason that she would not opt to do this

b'coz she needs the car for her job? The car is not needed for any other purpose besides getting to and from work
b'coz she cannot park at the current work place?
No, not this
b'coz it is dangerous to park anywhere else? No
she doesn't like to walk? she cannot walk? She's able to walk, and does not mind it
Is she physically disabled? mentally disabled? No to both
Is any of these relevent? Not really

Is the area that's under traffic is it a highway? Yes
routes? street? roads? lanes? others? Only one that is relevant here
Laura Kozma (Lkozma)
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 5:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are there two problems here:
1) why she doesn't want to drive to work, and
2) why she doesn't want to park at the current job, and then walk to work?

If so, is the fashion designer job only relevant for the second part?

Are there school buses on this road? Other kinds of buses? Vans for senior citizens, hospitals, etc.?

Does she have to deal with circles? Jug handles? Any of this relevant?
Christiane Scharf (0815)
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 5:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does she just hate the rush hour? Is she afraid of traffic jams? Does she get panic attacks in traffic jams? Claustrophobia?
Laura Kozma (Lkozma)
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 5:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does this mean she'd have to get up much earlier to get to a job that should be only 5 more minutes away? Is there a reason she can't leave for work earlier? Would she have to buy gasoline more often? Is this relevant?
Mo (Hakkunamatata)
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 5:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

good thought christiane...

Is it b'coz of the downtown bumper-to-bumper traffic that she is not taking the new job? Does she have any health related challenges that would not let her drive in bumper-to-bumper traffic? Amaxophobia- Fear of riding in a car? is any of these phobia's in this list related?

just kidding you don't need to go through that list, but man i was amazed that how many phobia's people have. There definetely is Phobiaphobia - a fear of phobia, in there some where!!!
Laura Kozma (Lkozma)
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 8:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Off topic, but there's also a list of phobias on the Monk Web site. I wonder if the Monk info came from the link Mo posted.

Some of Monk's phobias make sense, like fear of heights and snakes, but he's also afraid of milk and glaciers. :)
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 9:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are there two problems here:
1) why she doesn't want to drive to work, and
2) why she doesn't want to park at the current job, and then walk to work? Well, she doesn't have a problem with having to drive, and she could park at either place, it wouldn't matter.

If so, is the fashion designer job only relevant for the second part? Hmmmm...relevant how?

Are there school buses on this road? Other kinds of buses? Vans for senior citizens, hospitals, etc.? Yes, it's likely these use the road with all other vehicles

Does she have to deal with circles? Jug handles? Any of this relevant? No

Does she just hate the rush hour? Rush hour is a problem for her, yes
Is she afraid of traffic jams? Well she doesn't like them, and for good reason
Does she get panic attacks in traffic jams? Claustrophobia? No, nothing like this

Does this mean she'd have to get up much earlier to get to a job that should be only 5 more minutes away? YES
Is there a reason she can't leave for work earlier? Well, she probably just likes her sleep, no other relevant reasons
Would she have to buy gasoline more often? Is this relevant? No


Is it b'coz of the downtown bumper-to-bumper traffic that she is not taking the new job? Yes, heavy traffic is the major influencing factor about not taking the new job
Does she have any health related challenges that would not let her drive in bumper-to-bumper traffic? Amaxophobia- Fear of riding in a car? is any of these phobia's in this list related? She doesn't have any phobias about heavy traffic, she's just like most of us who do not like being stuck in it

We're only a step away from being done, I think. We've determined that heavy traffic is the 'obstacle' that Susie would face if she takes the other job, and that she would have to use the same route from home to the new job as she uses from home to the current job except for the last mile, which is not in heavy traffic. She's not afraid of walking and is perfectly capable of doing so and would not face any dangers in the part of town where she works. So the question that has not been answered yet is this: If she would have to still travel on a busy highway with slow traffic to and from work, why not at least get paid more and work for someone you like?
Mo (Hakkunamatata)
Posted on Wednesday, March 22, 2006 - 9:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

she would have to use the same route from home to the new job as she uses from home to the current job except for the last mile, which is not in heavy traffic. Does this mean the last mile(the extra mile) is not in heavy traffic ?

Does she have trouble getting to the building where they offer her the great job? Yes when you answered yes does that mean that she has some other difficulty in getting to the job other than traffic? b'coz we came to the conclusion that the traffic is not anymore heavier in the extra mile, isn't it right?

Does she doesn't want to work for her friend? Is the reason that the new job doesn't have any chances of moving to higher carrer options? Like stock options that she has with the current employer that would be revoked?

So the reason she still doesn't want the new job is it something to do with the current job being promising carrer? or something good in the current job? or something bad/difficult related to the new job? about the new job's location?

Is any of these related?