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Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 6:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A man is stabbing himself again and again with a fork. Why?
Robin Smith
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 8:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

he couldn't find a knife

Garden fork or normal cutlery fork?
man - human?
Stabbing - piercing skin?
again and again - is each attempt doing what the man wants to? or is it that he can't achieve the aim of the stabbing motion?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 10:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Garden fork or normal cutlery fork? Cutlery fork
man - human? Yes
Stabbing - piercing skin? Correct
again and again - is each attempt doing what the man wants to? Yes
or is it that he can't achieve the aim of the stabbing motion? Not this
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 10:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is he intending to hurt himself? to gain attention? does he do it as a form of communication? Is he physically able-bodied? Is it relevant that he stabs himself with a fork rather than another utensil? relevant where on his body he is stabbing himself? does he stab himself in the same place each time?
Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 12:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

True story? Is there anything physically special about this man? Can he feel pain? Is his occupation relevant? Is he doing this willlingly?
Is he young? Middle-aged? Old? Does he want to kill himself? Does he think he is going to die in the near future? Is he upset over something? Is he masochistic? Is there anyone else involved?
Where is he--at home? In the kitchen? His location relevant? Is there anyone watching him as he stabs himself? Does he want anyone to know? Will he gain anything material by mutilating himself?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 12:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Sam Greene (Pandora) on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 10:27 am:


Is he intending to hurt himself? Yes
to gain attention? No
does he do it as a form of communication? No
Is he physically able-bodied? Yes
Is it relevant that he stabs himself with a fork rather than another utensil? Other utensils might work as well, but I think it works best with a fork
relevant where on his body he is stabbing himself? Noish
does he stab himself in the same place each time? No

By Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack) on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 12:05 pm:


True story? I hope not
Is there anything physically special about this man? No
Can he feel pain? Yes
Is his occupation relevant? No
Is he doing this willlingly? Um... well, yes
Is he young? Middle-aged? Old? Irrelevant
Does he want to kill himself? No
Does he think he is going to die in the near future? Yes
Is he upset over something? Yes
Is he masochistic? No
Is there anyone else involved? Yes
Where is he--at home? In the kitchen? Neither
His location relevant? Sort of
Is there anyone watching him as he stabs himself? Yes
Does he want anyone to know? Yes
Will he gain anything material by mutilating himself? No
Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 12:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How many are watching him--one? a few? a crowd? Friend(s)? Family? Stranger(s)? How do(es) the watcher(s) feel about this--happy? upset? do they try to stop him? do they understand why he is doing this?
Does he think someone is going to kill him? Does he think he will die of natural causes? Does he think stabbing himself will delay his death? prevent it?
Is he indoors? outdoors?
Christiane Scharf (0815)
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 12:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does he want to prove (to himself? to others?) that he is still alive? Does he want to stay awake? Was he poisoned? Does he think he was poisoned? Does he actually pierce his skin so that blood comes out? Is blood relevant?
Damien Sullivan (Docd)
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 2:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Check E-mail
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 6:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack) on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 12:48 pm:


How many are watching him--one? a few? a crowd? Let's say about 30 people
Friend(s)? No Family? No
Stranger(s)? Yes
How do(es) the watcher(s) feel about this--happy? upset? Probably this
do they try to stop him? Maybe - the story doesn't tell
do they understand why he is doing this? Yes
Does he think someone is going to kill him? Yes
Does he think he will die of natural causes? No
Does he think stabbing himself will delay his death? No
prevent it? No
Is he indoors? outdoors? Outdoors

By Christiane Scharf (0815) on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 12:55 pm:


Does he want to prove (to himself? to others?) that he is still alive? No
Does he want to stay awake? Irrelevant
Was he poisoned? No
Does he think he was poisoned? No
Does he actually pierce his skin so that blood comes out? Yes
Is blood relevant? No

By Damien Sullivan (Docd) on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 02:45 pm:


Check E-mail You got it (:
Sam Greene (Pandora)
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 7:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is he a prisoner?
Does he feel a sense of mental comfort in hurting himself the way self harmers often do?
Does he think there is one person in particular who is going to kill him? a group of people?
Relevant how he thinks he is going to die?
Relevant which country he is in?
If he didn't think he was going to die would he still stab himself?
Relevant how he thinks he is going to die?
Mirjana Vidovic
Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 8:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it a circus show? Or smth similar?
Did he find smth out recently?
Did someone betray him? Leave him?
Does he want to relieve mental pain?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 6:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Sam Greene (Pandora) on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 07:14 pm:


Is he a prisoner? Close
Does he feel a sense of mental comfort in hurting himself the way self harmers often do? Not the way self harmers often do, no
Does he think there is one person in particular who is going to kill him? No
a group of people? Yes
Relevant how he thinks he is going to die? No
Relevant which country he is in? Noish
If he didn't think he was going to die would he still stab himself? No
Relevant how he thinks he is going to die? Still no (:

By Mirjana Vidovic on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 08:04 pm:


Is it a circus show? No
Or smth similar? No
Did he find smth out recently? Rather "was told"
Did someone betray him? No
Leave him? No
Does he want to relieve mental pain? No(ish)
Christiane Scharf (0815)
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 9:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does he have a mental disease? Is he in an asylum? Are there other persons around besides those who only watch? Are there animals around? Are there any relevant objects?
Does he want to make many holes in his skin (as opposed to one hole)?
Does he want to "open" his skin? so that something can get out? so that something can get in?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 10:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Christiane Scharf (0815) on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 09:42 am:


Does he have a mental disease? No
Is he in an asylum? No
Are there other persons around besides those who only watch? No
Are there animals around? Are there any relevant objects? None relevant
Does he want to make many holes in his skin (as opposed to one hole)? Yes
Does he want to "open" his skin? Yes
so that something can get out? No
so that something can get in? Yes
Christiane Scharf (0815)
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 11:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He opens his skin so that something can get in:
something solid?
something liquid?
a gas? air? oxygen?
something intangible? good Qi?
something you can find (almost?) everywhere?
something you can only find in some places?
soemthing you can only find at that place?
Does he pretend being insane?
Did he commit a crime? Was he accused of a crime?
Is someone trying to kill him?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 12:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He opens his skin so that something can get in:
something solid? No
something liquid? Yes
a gas? air? oxygen? None of these
something intangible? No good Qi? Huh?
something you can find (almost?) everywhere? Yesish
something you can only find in some places? Yesish
soemthing you can only find at that place? No
Does he pretend being insane? No
Did he commit a crime? Was he accused of a crime? Neither
Is someone trying to kill him? Yesish
Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 12:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He was told that he was going to be killed? Is the group who wants to kill him among the 30 watchers?
So...he wants to have his skin filled with holes before they kill him? Do the would-be-killers want his skin full of holes for some reason? Or do they want his skin intact, and he is ruining it to spite them?
Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 12:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the liquid water?
Torgeir Apeland (Abc)
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 1:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack) on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 12:20 pm:


He was told that he was going to be killed? Yes
Is the group who wants to kill him among the 30 watchers? Yes
So...he wants to have his skin filled with holes before they kill him? Yes
Do the would-be-killers want his skin full of holes for some reason? No
Or do they want his skin intact, and he is ruining it to spite them? YES

Is the liquid water? Yes

*************** SPOILER ****************

Our hero is taken captive by a tribe in the wilderness, and they tell him that they will kill him and use his skin to cover a canoe frame. But he is granted one last wish, and he asks for his fork to be taken out of his backpack and given to him. Then he begins stabbing himself wildly with the fork while shouting "Canoe my foot! Noone is ever going to use MY skin for a canoe"
Christiane Scharf (0815)
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2006 - 1:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nice one!

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