| Author | Message | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Difficulty: Easy Type: Fictional Story: Due to his mental illness, his brother had to die. To Solve: Why? | ||
| SmarterBrother (Mycroft)
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Does he kill his brother? Does his brother know of his intentions? | ||
| Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
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His mental illness: the brother's mental illness? the other person's? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Does he kill his brother? No Does his brother know of his intentions? His mental illness: the brother's mental illness? the other person's? We have two brothers here. Lets call them Bob A (the one with the illness) and Bob B (the one who died) | ||
| Kitral Solane (Solane)
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Killed for organs or blood? Permeditated? Accidental killing? Accident in general? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Killed for organs or blood? No Permeditated? Yes Accidental killing? Accident in general? No | ||
| Kitral Solane (Solane)
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Twins? If so, identical? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Twins? If so, identical? Yes | ||
| Kitral Solane (Solane)
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Did they mean to kill Bob A, and accidentally killed Bob B? Did Bob A purosely switch places with Bob Ba t any point? Wild shot: The man in the iron mask?(Or some other similar title, I forget exactly) | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Did they mean to kill Bob A, and accidentally killed Bob B? Yes Did Bob A purosely switch places with Bob Ba t any point? Yes Wild shot: The man in the iron mask?(Or some other similar title, I forget exactly) No | ||
| Clycking (Clycking)
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Did they intend to kill Bob A because of his mental illness? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Did they intend to kill Bob A because of his mental illness? No | ||
| Kitral Solane (Solane)
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Was Bob A pretending to be Bob B because of his mental illness? Fear? Paranoia? Good reason? Of his own will? His own idea? Bob B's idea? Was Bob B pretending to be Bob A? Of his own will? For good reason? | ||
| Kitral Solane (Solane)
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Relevent what his mental illness is? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Was Bob A pretending to be Bob B because of his mental illness?No Fear? Paranoia? Good reason? Of his own will? His own idea? Bob B's idea? Was Bob B pretending to be Bob A? Yes Of his own will? Yes For good reason? Yes Relevent what his mental illness is? Yes | ||
| Kitral Solane (Solane)
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Was Bob A pretending to be Bob B? | ||
| Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
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Did Bob B know that someone was going to kill his brother? Was this the reason why he swapped places with him? Or was the swapping done for some other reason entirely? How many people plannned to kill Bob A? One? A few? A whole organisation? Was Bob A supposed to be executed? Did Bob B swap places with him in jail? Did Bob A commit a crime because of his mental illness? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Was Bob A pretending to be Bob B? No Did Bob B know that someone was going to kill his brother? No Was this the reason why he swapped places with him? Or was the swapping done for some other reason entirely? Yes How many people plannned to kill Bob A? One? A few? A whole organisation? This one Was Bob A supposed to be executed? No Did Bob B swap places with him in jail? No Did Bob A commit a crime because of his mental illness? No | ||
| Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
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Was Bob B in some kind of trouble, and thus pretended to be his brother to get away from a situation? Age relevant? Are they both grown men? Is the mental ilness schizophrenia? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Was Bob B in some kind of trouble, and thus pretended to be his brother to get away from a situation? No Age relevant? Are they both grown men? They are grown men, that's enough. Is the mental ilness schizophrenia? No | ||
| Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
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Who did Bob B think would benefit from the swapping, himself or Bob A? Is the organisation that killed "Bob A" legal? Bob A didn't commit a crime right? But did he offend anyone in the organisation? Did he do something that was harmful to society? Did the organisation think they could get money or other material possessions by killing Bob A? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Who did Bob B think would benefit from the swapping, himself No or Bob A? Yes Is the organisation that killed "Bob A" legal? No Bob A didn't commit a crime right? Yes But did he offend anyone in the organisation? Yes Did he do something that was harmful to society? No Did the organisation think they could get money or other material possessions by killing Bob A? No | ||
| Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
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Bob A did something offensive because of his mental illness, yes? Was it the mafia? something similar? Did Bob B expect to get hurt while pretending to be Bob A? Anyone else after Bob A other than this organisation? His mental illness: clinical depression? Some kind of dependence? A kind of phobia? Some form of obsession? Hysteria? Anxiety disorder? Multiple personality syndrome? Autism? Down syndrome? Tourette syndrome? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Bob A did something offensive because of his mental illness, yes? No Was it the mafia? Yes something similar? Did Bob B expect to get hurt while pretending to be Bob A? No Anyone else after Bob A other than this organisation? No His mental illness: clinical depression? Some kind of dependence? A kind of phobia? This one Some form of obsession? Hysteria? Anxiety disorder? Multiple personality syndrome? Autism? Down syndrome? Tourette syndrome? Not to the rest | ||
| Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
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Is it a common phobia? or a very serious one?Fear of water? Heights? Crowds? Spiders? Insects? Flying? Enclosed spaces? Touching? Noises? Infections? Snakes? Clowns? Something that very few people would be afraid of? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Is it a common phobia? or a very serious one?Yes Fear of water? No Heights? Yes Crowds? Spiders? Insects? Flying? Enclosed spaces? Touching? Noises? Infections? Snakes? Clowns? Something that very few people would be afraid of? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Once again (Sorry): Is it a common phobia? Yes or a very serious one? No | ||
| Clycking (Clycking)
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Bob B took Bob A's place to help him? Did Bob B do it because Bob A had to do something that might agitate his fear of heights? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Bob B took Bob A's place to help him? Yes Did Bob B do it because Bob A had to do something that might agitate his fear of heights? Yes | ||
| Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
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Did Bob A have to skydive? walk across a tightrope? sit in a hot air balloon? wash windows? bungee jump? rock climb? jump on a trampoline? dive off a cliff? Has he been forced to do this thing? Or did he volunteer for it? to help him get over his phobia? but he backs out of it in the end? and thus his brother helps him? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Did Bob A have to skydive? walk across a tightrope? sit in a hot air balloon? wash windows? bungee jump? rock climb? jump on a trampoline? dive off a cliff? None of these Has he been forced to do this thing? Yes Or did he volunteer for it? No to help him get over his phobia? but he backs out of it in the end? and thus his brother helps him? All No | ||
| Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
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Forced by whom? The mafia? Family? Friends? Colleagues? Police? Enemies? Is this thing a common thing to do? Would one usually do it many times in one's lifetime? Just once? A few? Never? Is it dangerous? How high up is he--about a storey above the ground? a few? more than 30? more than 80? Or is he way up in the sky? Planes/helicopters involved? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Forced by whom? The mafia? This one Family? Friends? Colleagues? Police? Enemies? Is this thing a common thing to do? Yes Would one usually do it many times in one's lifetime? Just once? A few? Maybe this one Never? Is it dangerous? No How high up is he--about a storey above the ground? a few? Maybe 10 to 20 storeys more than 30? more than 80? Or is he way up in the sky? Planes/helicopters involved? No | ||
| Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
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Did Bob A offend the mafia before they forced him to do this thing or after? Would people usually find this a frightening thing to do? Or something they would do without a second thought? Did he have to take a bubble lift? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Did Bob A offend the mafia before This one they forced him to do this thing or after? Would people usually find this a frightening thing to do? No Or something they would do without a second thought? Yes Did he have to take a bubble lift? No | ||
| Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
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So the story goes: Bob A offended the mafia, so they forced him to do something high above the ground, knowing he was afraid of heights. Bob B took pity on him and decided to swap places, but didn't know that the mafia had planned to kill Bob A. So Bob B, aka "Bob A", is killed. All this correct? So we just need to find out what Bob A did to offend them, and what Bob A was forced to do? Is this a thing one would do for fun? Or for necessity? Is it done in a building? Open air? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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So the story goes: Bob A offended the mafia Yes, so they forced him to do something high above the ground, knowing he was afraid of heights NO. Bob B took pity on him and decided to swap places Yes, but didn't know that the mafia had planned to kill Bob A Yes. So Bob B, aka "Bob A", is killed. Yes All this correct? See above So we just need to find out what Bob A did to offend them Irrelevant, and what Bob A was forced to do? Yes Is this a thing one would do for fun? Maybe this Or for necessity? No Is it done in a building? Open air? Yope to both | ||
| Robin Smith (Robin_smith)
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quote; "so they forced him to do something high above the ground, knowing he was afraid of heights NO." did the mafia know he had a fear of heights? | ||
| Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
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On the wall of a building? The balcony? At the top of a building? Does he need to climb down the fire escape? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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did the mafia know he had a fear of heights? No On the wall of a building? No The balcony? No At the top of a building? Yesish Does he need to climb down the fire escape? No | ||
| Christiane Scharf (0815)
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Helicopter involved? Flying involved? Parachutes involved? Bungee jumping involved? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Helicopter involved? No Flying involved? No Parachutes involved? No Bungee jumping involved? No | ||
| Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
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Does he at any point have to leave his position somewhere around the top of the building? After he has completed this thing, will he end up on the ground? Or will he not have moved? Is he in a penthouse? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Does he at any point have to leave his position somewhere around the top of the building? Please rephrase After he has completed this thing, will he end up on the ground? Yes Or will he not have moved? No Is he in a penthouse? No | ||
| Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
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Does he have to jump off the building? Is there anything attached to him? Does he have to be in midair at any point in the proceedings? The mafia didn't know that doing this thing would frighten him, right? Did they think he would find it enjoyable? By doing this thing, will the mafia benefit? or is it purely for their entertainment and pleasure? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Our answers just refere to his task Does he have to jump off the building? No Is there anything attached to him? No Does he have to be in midair at any point in the proceedings? No The mafia didn't know that doing this thing would frighten him, right? Yes Did they think he would find it enjoyable? No By doing this thing, will the mafia benefit? No or is it purely for their entertainment and pleasure? No | ||
| Puzzllover |
Did the mafia do this becasue they thought it would upset brother B? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
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Did the mafia do this becasue they thought it would upset brother B? No | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
New member Username: Sobs Post Number: 98 Registered: 6-2006 |
***RECAP*** Bob A is a member of the mafia, we found out that he has fear of heights and the mafia wants to kill him (why is irrelevant). They tell him to do something, but he decides to change places with his twin brother Bob B, who is then somehow killed by the mafia. All somes still have to be solved | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 13 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did Bob A know the mafia wanted to kill him? Did the task the mafia asked him to do make it obvious to him that they wanted him dead? Or was it something he'd be expected to do as part of your average day at the mafia office? Does the task involve heights or high places? Does Bob B offer to swap places? Does he know he's carrying out the task in place of his brother? Or is he tricked into filling in? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
New member Username: Sobs Post Number: 106 Registered: 6-2006 |
First of all: Thank you, for keeping this puzzle going! Did Bob A know the mafia wanted to kill him? No Did the task the mafia asked him to do make it obvious to him that they wanted him dead? No Or was it something he'd be expected to do as part of your average day at the mafia office? Yes, it looked like a common task, but not in the mafia's office Does the task involve heights or high places? Yes Does Bob B offer to swap places? Maybe he did, maybe his brother asked him to do so. Unimportant Does he know he's carrying out the task in place of his brother? Yes Or is he tricked into filling in? No | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 20 Registered: 7-2006 |
Pleasure :-) Is the task Bob's been asked to carry out an illegal act in itself? Does it involve meeting someone? Does the task require or benefit from height (e.g. being in position for a shooting), or is the height incidental to the task (e.g. meet Joe at the top of the Empire State Building)? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
New member Username: Sobs Post Number: 107 Registered: 6-2006 |
Does it involve meeting someone? YES Does the task require or benefit from height (e.g. being in position for a shooting), No or is the height incidental to the task (e.g. meet Joe at the top of the Empire State Building)? YES, perfect Is the task Bob's been asked to carry out an illegal act in itself? It might be, but you found out enough about the task | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 23 Registered: 7-2006 |
Presumably Bob B looks sufficiently like his brother to pass himself off as such? Is the one(s) Bob has been asked to meet at the top of said high building, the one(s) who kill him? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
New member Username: Sobs Post Number: 108 Registered: 6-2006 |
Presumably Bob B looks sufficiently like his brother to pass himself off as such? Yes Is the one(s) Bob has been asked to meet at the top of said high building, the one(s) who kill him? Yes | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 26 Registered: 7-2006 |
So, Bob A has been asked by the mafia to meet someone at the top of a tall building(?) or mountain(?), and because he's scared of heights his brother (whether implored or of his own volition) goes in his place, both men not knowing that the person to be met will kill Bob? And to make a nice story, presumably the death involves falling from said height? Anything else to get? | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
New member Username: Sobs Post Number: 109 Registered: 6-2006 |
Well done! **********SPOILER********** Bob A had to meet a mafia member high up on a tower. As he has fear of heights, he asked his twin brother Bob B to stand in for him. But as the mafia wanted to kill Bob A, they threw down Bob B from the tower. Since you solved this one easily, Plebeian, you migth take a look at our new one, which is called "Sold out?" :-) | ||
| Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 32 Registered: 7-2006 |
To the Batmobile then... :-) |
