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Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 2:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Gladys always puts on weight during the winter months. How come?

True story
Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 3:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Gladys = adult human female?
Puts on weight: she gets fatter? she wears more clothes, so she carries more weight around with her?
She eats more? stops exercising?
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 3:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Gladys = adult yes human no female? yes
Puts on weight: she gets fatter? yes she wears more clothes, so she carries more weight around with her? no
She eats more? no stops exercising? no
Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 3:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is she an animal? Insect? Inanimate object? A blow up doll?
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 3:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is she an animal? yes Insect? no Inanimate object? no A blow up doll? no: I'd better not pursue your line of thinking there :-)
Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 3:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hehe.

Relevant what animal exactly? Does she hibernate? Extra weight to keep warm? Is she a wild animal? In a zoo? Someone's pet?
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 3:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Relevant what animal exactly? yes Does she hibernate? no Extra weight to keep warm? no Is she a wild animal? no In a zoo? no Someone's pet? this one
Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 3:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

dog? cat? fish? hamster? rabbit? bird?
Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 3:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Her owner feeds her more during winter?
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 3:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

dog? cat? this one fish? hamster? rabbit? bird?

Her owner feeds her more during winter? no
Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 3:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Fur relevant? Cat hairballs relevant? Relevant that cats lick themselves? that they scratch? that they dislike water?
Does something happen during winter that is unrelated to the weather? (eg some old relative always popping along) Or is it to do with the cold? the snow? that lakes and ponds etc are frozen over?
Hmm how else does one get fat besides eating more or cutting down on exercise?? Does she get pregnant every winter?
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 4:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Fur relevant? no Cat hairballs relevant? no Relevant that cats lick themselves? no that they scratch? no that they dislike water? no
Does something happen during winter that is unrelated to the weather? no (eg some old relative always popping along) no Or is it to do with the cold? indirectly, yes the snow? no that lakes and ponds etc are frozen over? no
Hmm how else does one get fat besides eating more or cutting down on exercise?? that is for me to know and for you to find out :-)Does she get pregnant every winter? good thought, but no: she's been sterilised
Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 4:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This can only happen to cats? What about big cats like tigers, cheetahs, leopards etc?
If she had been a stray cat, would she still get fat during winter? Because of the cold, does a human do something? does an animal do something? or does something naturally occur? Anything about her particular household relevant?
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 4:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This can only happen to cats? not sure, to be honest: probably not What about big cats like tigers, cheetahs, leopards etc? no idea, sorry
If she had been a stray cat, would she still get fat during winter? yes, perhaps Because of the cold, does a human do something? no does an animal do something? yes or does something naturally occur? yes Anything about her particular household relevant? yes
Christiane Scharf (0815)
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 5:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does she stay indoors a lot in the winter?
Does she catch less mice in winter and therefore she doesn't have worms?
Is there another pet in the household? Is there something relevant about the owner that we have to find out?
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 5:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does she stay indoors a lot in the winter? possibly but irrel
Does she catch less mice in winter and therefore she doesn't have worms? N/A: she has been wormed
Is there another pet in the household? no Is there something relevant about the owner that we have to find out? no: she is my parents' cat, actually, but that's not really important
Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 7:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Any other animal involved besides her? The animal that does something--does this refer to her or to some other animal? A stray one? A pet of someone else? the neighbour?
If you told us the reason, would we be surprised? Would you say it's a news-worthy event? (Meet Gladys, the amazing expanding cat!)
Does she have a particular habit? Anything about the structure of the house we need to know?
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 12:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Any other animal involved besides her? yes The animal that does something--does this refer to her or to some other animal? both A stray one? not really this A pet of someone else? no the neighbour? no

If you told us the reason, would we be surprised? possibly: my parents had been wondering about her seasonal weight gain and the vet came up with this lateral-ish explanation

{ Would you say it's a news-worthy event? (Meet Gladys, the amazing expanding cat!) Hahaha! Nothing quite so dramatic

Does she have a particular habit? yes Anything about the structure of the house we need to know? yes, it would help
Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 12:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the other animal a cat, too? Male? Female? Adult?
Is the house an apartment? Detached? Semi? Terrace? How many storeys does it have--1? 2? 3? 4? 5? more? Staircases relevant?
Is this habit of hers something cats often do? Any of the toys she plays with relevant? Does she catch mice? Run up and down the stairs? Does she hide in the heating unit, which is switched on during winter, and so she expands?
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 12:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the other animal a cat, too? no Male? Female? Adult? could be all or any of these


Is the house an apartment? no Detached? this one Semi? no Terrace? no How many storeys does it have--1? 2? 3? 4? 5? more? 2 but irrel Staircases relevant? no
Is this habit of hers something cats often do? some cats do, yes: it's a natural thing for cats to do Any of the toys she plays with relevant? no Does she catch mice? yes but irrel Run up and down the stairs? irrel Does she hide in the heating unit, which is switched on during winter, and so she expands? Heheh! No
Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 1:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does she do it on the garden? In the house? In a particular room in the house? Or does she do this all over the place?
The other animal--dog? bird? rabbit? hamster? turtle? Is it her friend? Does it chase her? Does she chase it? Does this animal also gain weight during the winter months? Does it lose weight?
Jackie Raymond (Jumpingjack)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 1:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

in the garden, that is
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 3:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does she do it in the garden? this one In the house? no In a particular room in the house? no Or does she do this all over the place? mainly outside the house
The other animal--dog? bird? rabbit? hamster? turtle? none of these Is it her friend? no Does it chase her? no Does she chase it? yes: a teeny FA throughout, by the way Does this animal also gain weight during the winter months? no Does it lose weight? no
Christiane Scharf (0815)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 3:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does she chase more than one animal? Insects? Flying animals?
Does she get fat because the animal she usually chases is not there in the winter?
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 4:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does she chase more than one animal? yes Insects? Flying animals? no to these
Does she get fat because the animal she usually chases is not there in the winter? yes, but it's not the lack of exercise that makes her fatter
Christiane Scharf (0815)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 5:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The animals she chases:
smaller than insects? smaller than mice? smaller than rats? smaller than squirrels? smaller than rabbits? Are they mammals? birds? reptiles? amphibians? fish? spiders?

Does she eat the animals she chases? Is this relevant?
Is the cause for her getting fat to be found in her diet? Does she occasionally eat plants in the summer?
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 5:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The animals she chases:
smaller than insects? no smaller than mice? perhaps mouse-sized smaller than rats? yes smaller than squirrels? yes smaller than rabbits? yes Are they mammals? birds? reptiles? this one amphibians? fish? spiders?

Does she eat the animals she chases? Is this relevant? yes and yes
Is the cause for her getting fat to be found in her diet? yes Does she occasionally eat plants in the summer? irrel
Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 5:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

lizards?
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 5:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

lizards? indeed so
Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 6:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does she eat something else instead of lizards in the winter? something more fattening perhaps?
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 6:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does she eat something else instead of lizards in the winter? something more fattening perhaps? no, not this
John Faben (Bentarm)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 7:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the lizards more lethargic in the winter?
easier to catch for some other reason? Do they hibernate?
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 7:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are the lizards more lethargic in the winter? yes
easier to catch for some other reason? not easier to catch but harder to catch Do they hibernate? yes
Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 7:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does anything else about her diet change other than how many lizards she is eating?

Does she eat more of her regular cat food? Less?

Does the lack of lizards alter/effect her digestive process in some way?
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 7:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does anything else about her diet change other than how many lizards she is eating? no

Does she eat more of her regular cat food? Less? less, I think, but I'm not sure

Does the lack of lizards alter/effect her digestive process in some way? yes
Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 8:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the lack of lizards make her constipated, or unable to digest her food well, or slow down her metabolism somehow... making her bloated and therefore fatter?
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 8:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the lack of lizards make her constipated, or unable to digest her food well, or slow down her metabolism somehow... making her bloated and therefore fatter? very much in the right forest but not quite
Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 8:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm...did eating the lizards during the rest of the year have the opposite effect? Cause her diarrhea or undernourish her, so during the winter when the lizards weren't around she plumped back up?
Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 8:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Or did the lizards cause some kind of illness or infection in the cat--like a parasite or mild poison that affected the cats weight when she ate them?
Howard Wilde (Woodworm)
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 8:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cause her diarrhea or undernourish her, so during the winter when the lizards weren't around she plumped back up? YES

Or did the lizards cause some kind of illness or infection in the cat--like a parasite or mild poison that affected the cats weight when she ate them? YES! Well played.

*****SPOILER*****

My parents' cat Gladys lives in their old stone farmhouse in the southwest of France, where she likes to hunt the lizards that bask on the walls in the summer sunshine. They were puzzled and concerned as to why she was so sleek and svelte in the summer, and quite the roly-poly in the winter.

Apparently, some species of lizards secrete a very mild toxin that causes cats to lose weight, but without really harming them. Because they are cold-blooded, the lizards hibernate from October to March in the crevices of the house walls where she can't reach them. During autumn and winter, the effect gradually wears off, and Gladys piles on the pounds. (I couldn't resist the pun in the title.)

Well played everyone.

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