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Paul Sloane (Admin)
| | Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 11:38 am: |      |
Why and how did the fire service nearly destroy a collection of rare plants? |
Robin Smith (Robin_smith)
New member Username: Robin_smith
Post Number: 14 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 11:50 am: |      |
Title rel? Was there at any time any fire? Rare plants- cacti? other desert plants that dont need much water? |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 235 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 1:15 pm: |      |
Title relevant? NOT REALLY Was there at any time any fire? YES Rare plants- cacti? other desert plants that dont need much water? NO |
Robin Smith (Robin_smith)
New member Username: Robin_smith
Post Number: 15 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 1:41 pm: |      |
Did the fire service start the fire? Location of fire relevant? Type of plants relevant? |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 236 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 1:54 pm: |      |
Did the fire service start the fire? NO Location of fire relevant? A LITTLE Type of plants relevant? YES |
Robin Smith (Robin_smith)
New member Username: Robin_smith
Post Number: 16 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 2:02 pm: |      |
Was the fire away from any hydrants? Did the fire crew have to pump water out of a pond? |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 238 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 5:00 pm: |      |
Was the fire away from any hydrants? YES Did the fire crew have to pump water out of a pond? NO OR IRRELEVANT |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 2969 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 7:53 pm: |      |
Anything to do with the tinder dry conditions due to the recent hot weather here? |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 239 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 10:35 pm: |      |
Anything to do with the tinder dry conditions due to the recent hot weather here? NO - OR ONLY INDIRECTLY |
Steve Wort (Wizardofnz)
New member Username: Wizardofnz
Post Number: 323 Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 9:00 am: |      |
Were the plants destroyed by fire in some way? By water? By impact? |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 240 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 9:58 am: |      |
Steve, Were the plants destroyed by fire in some way? NO By water? NO By impact? NO |
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
New member Username: Rabrab
Post Number: 1256 Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 2:19 pm: |      |
Did the fire service destroy the plants by driving their truck over them? by uprooting them in some way? (to make a firebreak?) by crushing them in some way? |
Robin Smith (Robin_smith)
New member Username: Robin_smith
Post Number: 19 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 2:59 pm: |      |
Are the plants rare - due to numbers? due to climate they need? due to timings of flowering? Are these plants that only occur after a fire? |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 241 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 3:35 pm: |      |
Did the fire service destroy the plants by driving their truck over them? by uprooting them in some way? (to make a firebreak?) by crushing them in some way? NO Are the plants rare - due to numbers? YES due to climate they need? NO due to timings of flowering? YES Are these plants that only occur after a fire? NO (OR REPHRASE THE QUESTION) |
Robin Smith (Robin_smith)
New member Username: Robin_smith
Post Number: 20 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 8:20 am: |      |
do the plants only flower after a fire? Do they only germinate after a fire? (I think it is the giant sicamore that does this?) |
Mike Holden (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian
Post Number: 51 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 5:53 pm: |      |
"...nearly destroy a collection of rare plants" - does this mean... A collection of plants came close to being destroyed, but in fact were unharmed? or A collection of plants were badly damaged, almost to the point of destruction? or Some members of a collection of plants were destroyed, but not all of them? |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 242 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 7:43 pm: |      |
Robin and Mike, do the plants only flower after a fire? I DON'T THINK SO Do they only germinate after a fire? (I think it is the giant sicamore that does this?) CORRECT "...nearly destroy a collection of rare plants" - does this mean... A collection of plants came close to being destroyed, but in fact were unharmed? CORRECT or A collection of plants were badly damaged, almost to the point of destruction? NO or Some members of a collection of plants were destroyed, but not all of them? NO |
Christiane Scharf (0815)
New member Username: 0815
Post Number: 359 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 8:33 pm: |      |
Was the fire lighted on purpose? by accident? Was the fire service not supposed to put out the fire? Did they put it out? |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 243 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 6:21 pm: |      |
Chris, Was the fire lighted on purpose? by accident? NO, YES Was the fire service not supposed to put out the fire? THAT'S WHAT THEY DO. Did they put it out? YES |
Anastas (Aragorn)
New member Username: Aragorn
Post Number: 3 Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, August 03, 2006 - 5:51 pm: |      |
(Hi everyone, it's been a long time since my last visit) If the firemen had put out the fire sooner, then the plants would have been destroyed, because they would not sprout? Were there seeds (of this type of plant) at the place where the fire started? Were the firemen aware of any plants in the area of fire? |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 244 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 04, 2006 - 10:18 am: |      |
Anastas, If the firemen had put out the fire sooner, then the plants would have been destroyed, because they would not sprout? WRONG Were there seeds (of this type of plant) at the place where the fire started? NO Were the firemen aware of any plants in the area of fire? YES PAUL |
Anastas (Aragorn)
New member Username: Aragorn
Post Number: 14 Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 04, 2006 - 10:32 am: |      |
Is it relevant what caught on fire? Did the fire occur in a botanical garden/some scientific lab? Did the firemen use water to put out the fire? Foam? Something else? Relevant? Were those water plants? Orchids? Trees? Seeds of a plant? Algae? |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 245 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 04, 2006 - 6:25 pm: |      |
Anastas, Is it relevant what caught on fire? NOT A LOT Did the fire occur in a botanical garden/some scientific lab? NO Did the firemen use water to put out the fire? YES Foam? Something else? Relevant? NO Were those water plants? Orchids? Trees? Seeds of a plant? Algae? NO, NO, YES, NO, NO PAUL |
Anastas (Aragorn)
New member Username: Aragorn
Post Number: 28 Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 9:05 am: |      |
Was it a forest fire? Did the firemen use firetrucks, helicopters, bulldozers, any other machinery? Is there something important about the trees we need to find out? Some peculiarity? |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 246 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 6:33 pm: |      |
Was it a forest fire? YES Did the firemen use firetrucks, helicopters, bulldozers, any other machinery? YES BUT IRRELEVANT Is there something important about the trees we need to find out? Some peculiarity? YES |
Barbara Johannessen Bailey (Rabrab)
New member Username: Rabrab
Post Number: 1281 Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 10:10 pm: |      |
OK, the trees are members of an endangered species, right? The seeds of these trees only germinate after they've gone through a fire, right? Did the firefighters attempt to put out the fire before it got to this stand of trees? Were they informed by someone else that they should let it burn, instead? If so, is the person? group? agency? who informed them relevant. If not, did one? or more? of the firefighers recognize the endangered-species trees, and realize that they should let the fire burn that area? Did the fire, in fact, burn through the area the endangered-species trees were? |
Paul Sloane (Admin)
Board Administrator Username: Admin
Post Number: 247 Registered: 7-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 12:17 pm: |      |
Barbara, Well Done. OK, the trees are members of an endangered species, right? The seeds of these trees only germinate after they've gone through a fire, right? Did the firefighters attempt to put out the fire before it got to this stand of trees? *** SPOILER *** The rare plants were giant sequoia trees (redwoods) – the largest living things on the planet. For many years the fire service put out forest fires thinking that by doing so they protected the trees. But sequoias need forest fires to help regenerate. Their thick bark is fire resistant, the fires burn back other plants and the sequoia needs the heat of fire to drop its seeds. Now small fires are allowed and managed in sequoia forests to allow growth. |
Anastas (Aragorn)
New member Username: Aragorn
Post Number: 37 Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 9:43 pm: |      |
good job! |