| Author | Message | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 158 Registered: 6-2006 |
That he has only 9 and a half fingers isn't quite enough for them. This might go quick, or might take forever. I'm curious to see! | ||
| Kitral Solane (Solane)
New member Username: Solane Post Number: 323 Registered: 5-2006 |
Fingers as in on a hand? Human hand? On his hands? | ||
| Kitral Solane (Solane)
New member Username: Solane Post Number: 324 Registered: 5-2006 |
They want him to be above average, but to do that he needs tan fingers? He adult? Human? Male? Them adult? Human? All Male? All female? Mix? Number relevent? Related to he by blood? Other relation? Have they met him? Has he met them? | ||
| Kitral Solane (Solane)
New member Username: Solane Post Number: 325 Registered: 5-2006 |
Crime involved? Is he going to get another finger? A half finger? More than one finger? Title relevent? If they are his fingers, was he born with only nine and a half? Sorry for multiple posts. Ideas come in waves as soon as I hit post. | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 159 Registered: 6-2006 |
Fingers as in on a hand? Human hand? On his hands? yes to all They want him to be above average, but to do that he needs tan fingers? no He adult? Human? Male? yes Them adult?yes Human? yes All Male? All female? Mix? probably this, but irrel. Number relevent? yope Related to he by blood? no Other relation? yope Have they met him?possibly Has he met them?possibly Crime involved? yes Is he going to get another finger? no A half finger? no More than one finger? no Title relevent? yes If they are his fingers, was he born with only nine and a half? no Sorry for multiple posts. Ideas come in waves as soon as I hit post. no problem! | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
New member Username: Sobs Post Number: 135 Registered: 6-2006 |
Mafia methods of cutting off (part of) a finger relevant? Is he an (ex-) mafia-member who wants to prove his "profession" to the police? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 160 Registered: 6-2006 |
Mafia methods of cutting off (part of) a finger relevant? yesish Is he an (ex-) mafia-member who wants to prove his "profession" to the police?yope | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
New member Username: Sobs Post Number: 138 Registered: 6-2006 |
So it was a criminal group (was it actually mafia?) who took his finger? Now he wants some people to believe his membership in this group, what they don't do just because of his missing finger? Relevent why he lost part of his finger? Doing something wrong? The group he tells the story: Police? Judges/Lawyers? Family? Selling guns in TV? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 162 Registered: 6-2006 |
So it was a criminal group yes(was it actually mafia?no) who took his finger? yes Now he wants some people to believe his membership in this group, what they don't do just because of his missing finger? yes Relevent why he lost part of his finger? noDoing something wrong? The group he tells the story: Police?noJudges/Lawyers?no Family?no Selling guns in TV?no | ||
| Anastas (Aragorn)
New member Username: Aragorn Post Number: 11 Registered: 8-2004 |
Is ransom involved in the story? Someone kidnapped? Blackmail? Does half finger mean a finger cut at the middle? Do they expect someone in particular who can be identified by the number of fingers on his hand? Do they need someone with missing fingers to perfomr a task? Perhaps if he is missing a finger he can pick a lock easier or fit his hand somewhere a normal person would not be able to? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 164 Registered: 6-2006 |
Is ransom involved in the story? no Someone kidnapped? no Blackmail? no Does half finger mean a finger cut at the middle?yeah, exact means of cutting off half a finger irrel. Do they expect someone in particular who can be identified by the number of fingers on his hand? no Do they need someone with missing fingers to perfomr a task?no Perhaps if he is missing a finger he can pick a lock easier or fit his hand somewhere a normal person would not be able to?no | ||
| Christiane Scharf (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 379 Registered: 3-2006 |
Fingerprint identification relevant? Was the missing finger a thumb? Relevant which finger was missing? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 165 Registered: 6-2006 |
Fingerprint identification relevant? Was the missing finger a thumb? Relevant which finger was missing? no to all | ||
| Anastas (Aragorn)
New member Username: Aragorn Post Number: 18 Registered: 8-2004 |
Has anyone kept the missing finger part? Relevant? Was the finger cut off as a form of pusnishment, revenge, identification, some special ritual. Relevant at all? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 166 Registered: 6-2006 |
Has anyone kept the missing finger part? Relevant? not relevant Was the finger cut off as a form of pusnishment, revenge, identification, some special ritual. Relevant at all?not relevant | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 182 Registered: 6-2006 |
What you need to find out is what type of criminal organization he is part of, and to whom and why he is trying to prove his involvement in that organization. The fact that he is missing the finger is only relevant in the fact that it is partial proof, but not quite enough to prove his involvement in the criminal group | ||
| Stefan and Philipp (Sobs)
New member Username: Sobs Post Number: 157 Registered: 6-2006 |
Is it an international organisation? Could I expect to find that type of organisation in every large city? Does the organisation's business involve: -drugs -prostitution -smuggling -murder -protection money The people he is talking to: -part of an organisation? -criminals? -people investigating about his organisation? Are the people paying him/ do they want to hire him? Why he has to convince them: Does he want to prove his experience in criminel business? Will he get into trouble if the people don't believe him? Is it true that the people want to be sure that he was in exaclty this organisation and not in an other comparable one? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 183 Registered: 6-2006 |
Is it an international organisation? no Could I expect to find that type of organisation in every large city? no Does the organisation's business involve: -drugs -prostitution -smuggling -murder -protection money I'm not sure of specifics, all are probably involved to some extent! The people he is talking to: -part of an organisation? yes, but not HIS organization -criminals? no -people investigating about his organisation? no Are the people paying himpossibly...explore/ do they want to hire him? no Why he has to convince them: Does he want to prove his experience in criminel business? yope Will he get into trouble if the people don't believe him? no Is it true that the people want to be sure that he was in exaclty this organisation and not in an other comparable one? noish | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 187 Registered: 6-2006 |
Correction, and I'm sorry for not having my info all together earlier: The group he is part of could be called mafia, but is not the mafia you'd think of if I had just said yes. It's a mafia-ish organization specific to one region/location. It is that detail that is relevant about the group he belongs to | ||
| Kitral Solane (Solane)
New member Username: Solane Post Number: 335 Registered: 5-2006 |
Yakuza? | ||
| Rebecca Kreisler (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 191 Registered: 6-2006 |
Yakuza? yes indeed | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 101 Registered: 10-2003 |
The people he is talking to - are they the police? other crimefighters? the media? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 213 Registered: 6-2006 |
The people he is talking to - are they the police? other crimefighters? the media?none of these | ||
| Rabrab (Rabrab)
New member Username: Rabrab Post Number: 1301 Registered: 2-2005 |
The people he's talking to: another Yakuza family? another organized crime group? A tong? La Cosa Nostra? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 216 Registered: 6-2006 |
The people he's talking to: another Yakuza family? no another organized crime group? A tong? La Cosa Nostra?no | ||
| Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig Post Number: 105 Registered: 8-2006 |
Title relevant? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 232 Registered: 6-2006 |
Title relevant?very much so | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 149 Registered: 10-2003 |
Will the people he is talking to cause him harm if he can't prove that he's a Yakuza? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 271 Registered: 6-2006 |
Will the people he is talking to cause him harm if he can't prove that he's a Yakuza?no | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 162 Registered: 10-2003 |
Are the people he is talking to: artistic/musical/writer? Banking/financial/real estate? Clerical/Administrative? Computer related / Hardware ? Construction / Craftsman ? Education / Academic Research ? Entertainment / Media ? Executive / Management ? Hospitality / Travel ? Legal Services ? Manufacturing / Distributions ? Medical / Health Services ? Politics / Government / Military ? Sales / Marketing ? Technical / Science / Engineering ? Teaching / Child care? Transportation ? Food Service ? Other ? So I pinched the list from other puzzles. Bite me! | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 311 Registered: 6-2006 |
Are the people he is talking to: artistic/musical/writer? Banking/financial/real estate? Clerical/Administrative? Computer related / Hardware ? Construction / Craftsman ? Education / Academic Research ? Entertainment / Media ? Executive / Management ? Hospitality / Travel ? Legal Services ? Manufacturing / Distributions ? Medical / Health Services ? Politics / Government / Military ? this Sales / Marketing ? Technical / Science / Engineering ? Teaching / Child care? Transportation ? Food Service ? Other ? So I pinched the list from other puzzles. Bite me!whatever, I think I was the 1st pincher of the list anyway. | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 169 Registered: 10-2003 |
Will he gain financially if he can prove his membership? Will he be offered protection? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 319 Registered: 6-2006 |
Will he gain financially if he can prove his membership? YES Will he be offered protection? no, but irrelevant. He won't be prosecuted either | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 173 Registered: 10-2003 |
Is the financial aspect his main motive? His only motive? Will he gain as much, or at all, if he can't prove his membership? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 320 Registered: 6-2006 |
Is the financial aspect his main motive?yes His only motive? yes Will he gain as much, or at all, if he can't prove his membership?no, he will gain nothing if he can't prove it. | ||
| Dabong (Dabong)
New member Username: Dabong Post Number: 7 Registered: 8-2006 |
i am thinking that this is some guy who commited some kind of serious crime, but when the police found a fingerpring at the crimescene, he cut that finger off so that they would have nothing against him, but that made them very suspicious since the fingerprint they found was from the same finger he was missing, making him a major suspect | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 340 Registered: 6-2006 |
i am thinking that this is some guy who commited some kind of serious crime, but when the police found a fingerpring at the crimescene, he cut that finger off so that they would have nothing against him, but that made them very suspicious since the fingerprint they found was from the same finger he was missing, making him a major suspect no | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 428 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is the missing finger relevant other than to partially prove to the gang that he's a member? Is he actually a member of this gang? Or is he attempting to gain access to the gang by pretending to be a member? Is the man a policeman? Are the gang he's talking to Yazuka? Police? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 347 Registered: 6-2006 |
Is the missing finger relevant other than to partially prove to the gang that he's a member?no Is he actually a member of this gang?yesish Or is he attempting to gain access to the gang by pretending to be a member? no Is the man a policeman? no Are the gang he's talking to Yazuka?no, FA Police?no | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 188 Registered: 10-2003 |
Just noticed your yes to politics/government/military... was it to the whole line? or specifically to the military? If government, are they part of some government agency eg immigration, CIA, FBI? If military, are they the US army or a foreign military group? Does this even take place in the US? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 359 Registered: 6-2006 |
Just noticed your yes to politics/government/military... was it to the whole line?yes or specifically to the military? no If government, are they part of some government agency eg immigration, CIA, FBI? a government agency, but none of these If military, are they the US army or a foreign military group? not military Does this even take place in the US?no | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 201 Registered: 10-2003 |
Are the government men going to pay him for gang-related information if he can prove his membership? Or offer him a job? Given the Yakuza connection, does this take place in Japan? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 374 Registered: 6-2006 |
Are the government men going to pay himyes for gang-related informationbut no if he can prove his membership? Or offer him a job? no Given the Yakuza connection, does this take place in Japan?yes | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 220 Registered: 10-2003 |
Is this a true story? From a movie? FYOI? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 390 Registered: 6-2006 |
Is this a true story? From a movie? FYOI?Based on a true story, but the specifics of this Yakuza member are FMOI | ||
| Mycroft (Mycroft)
New member Username: Mycroft Post Number: 224 Registered: 10-2003 |
guess my fine collection of martial arts movies isn;t going to be useful after all! Are the government people interested in the Yakuza generally? Or in one of their activities specifically? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 395 Registered: 6-2006 |
Are the government people interested in the Yakuza generally?not really Or in one of their activities specifically?no | ||
| Solane (Solane)
New member Username: Solane Post Number: 459 Registered: 5-2006 |
Do they want him to act?/look? like a gang?/yakuza? member? | ||
| Senorina_illuminata (Senorina_illuminata)
New member Username: Senorina_illuminata Post Number: 3 Registered: 9-2006 |
is he trying to prove loyalty? is he an informant? hitman? bounty hunter? doctor? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 402 Registered: 6-2006 |
Do they want him to act?/look? like a gang?/yakuza? member?not really is he trying to prove loyalty? no is he an informant? no hitman? no bounty hunter? no doctor?no | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 417 Registered: 6-2006 |
Hint: The government agency involved would not normally be expected to deal with crime or criminal organizations, or the members thereof. Find out what they DO deal with, and you've as good as solved this puzzle! | ||
| Senorina_illuminata (Senorina_illuminata)
New member Username: Senorina_illuminata Post Number: 25 Registered: 9-2006 |
fire brigade? ambulance/medical? forrestry? animal welfare? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 418 Registered: 6-2006 |
fire brigade? ambulance/medical? forrestry? animal welfare? none of these | ||
| Senorina_illuminata (Senorina_illuminata)
New member Username: Senorina_illuminata Post Number: 26 Registered: 9-2006 |
is this government agency specific to japan? or could it be found in ,say the US or UK? is it something this person(the one with 9 and a half fingers) wants to do, or a group he wants to join but cannot as his deformity will prevent him from being good at it or an acceptable member if people assume hid deformity is due to some former involvement with a criminal organisation? hang on, just got another thought whilst re reading previous answers, although not really government agencies......... are 'them' journalists, or reporters? film makers? is he at an audition? is someone offering him money to do a biography/life story/inside look at the life of a/of a ex yakuza member/yakuza? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 424 Registered: 6-2006 |
is this government agency specific to japan? or could it be found in ,say the US or UK? this, although maybe not by the same name is it something this person(the one with 9 and a half fingers) wants to do wants, yes, but not to do, or a group he wants to join but cannot as his deformity will prevent him from being good at it or an acceptable member if people assume hid deformity is due to some former involvement with a criminal organisation? but no to this part hang on, just got another thought whilst re reading previous answers, although not really government agencies......... are 'them' journalists, or reporters? film makers? no is he at an audition? no is someone offering him money to do a biography/life story/inside look at the life of a/of a ex yakuza member/yakuza? no | ||
| Senorina_illuminata (Senorina_illuminata)
New member Username: Senorina_illuminata Post Number: 31 Registered: 9-2006 |
hmmm another random thought has occurred....... could this be an xfiles-esque puzzle? nine and a half fingers? trying to prove he was an alien? had seen an alien? are the government agency involved anything to do with extraterrestials? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 425 Registered: 6-2006 |
hmmm another random thought has occurred....... could this be an xfiles-esque puzzle? no nine and a half fingers? trying to prove he was an alien? no had seen an alien? no are the government agency involved anything to do with extraterrestials?no all good thoughts though. I LOVE X-Files | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 440 Registered: 6-2006 |
Ok, I REALLY want this puzzle solved, so another HINT! In what capacity would a person benefit monetarily from a government without being employed by that government? | ||
| Senorina_illuminata (Senorina_illuminata)
New member Username: Senorina_illuminata Post Number: 56 Registered: 9-2006 |
victims compensation fund? (victims of crime etc) an amnesty of some sort? some sort of pension? grant? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 442 Registered: 6-2006 |
victims compensation fund? no (victims of crime etc) an amnesty of some sort? no some sort of pension? aha! now we're getting somewhere!!! grant? no | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 517 Registered: 3-2006 |
The government gives pensions to ex-Yakuza members to help them start afresh? And the fact that he has 9 and a half fingers isn't enough to prove that he was one, and so he isn't eligible for the benefit? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 443 Registered: 6-2006 |
The government gives pensions to ex-Yakuza members to help them start afresh? close, but not quite And the fact that he has 9 and a half fingers isn't enough to prove that he was one, and so he isn't eligible for the benefit? yes to this part | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 519 Registered: 3-2006 |
Are ex-Yakuza members unable to get a job? Will no one hire them? Or does the government want to help those who, upon leaving the Yakuza, are beaten up so badly that they are physically incapable of working? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 444 Registered: 6-2006 |
Are ex-Yakuza members unable to get a job?unable? no. Will no one hire them?irrel Or does the government want to help those who, upon leaving the Yakuza, are beaten up so badly that they are physically incapable of working?no, they are choosing not to work. | ||
| Senorina_illuminata (Senorina_illuminata)
New member Username: Senorina_illuminata Post Number: 63 Registered: 9-2006 |
a pension to encourage them back into functional society? stable employment>? some sort of incentive to encourage them to want to work? witness relocation program? | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 445 Registered: 6-2006 |
a pension to encourage them back into functional society? stable employment>? some sort of incentive to encourage them to want to work? witness relocation program? no to all | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 449 Registered: 6-2006 |
this puzzle is so close to solved that unless anyone has an objection, I'm going to go ahead and post a spoyler later tonight! | ||
| Senorina_illuminata (Senorina_illuminata)
New member Username: Senorina_illuminata Post Number: 69 Registered: 9-2006 |
nope, no objection, i'm actually very curious to see the solution! | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 461 Registered: 6-2006 |
Ok then.... ***********SPOILER**************** Because perhaps hundreds of Japanese Yakuza gangsters are nearing retirement age, the Ministry of Health, Labor, and Welfare has drafted rules for the former gambling, loan shark, and protection workers to qualify for benefits, according to a March dispatch from Tokyo in The Times of London. Since organized crime leaves no employment paper trail, ex-mobsters must supply a letter of retirement from their crime boss in order to sign up, although local governments are expected to accept as partial proof gang tattoos, criminal records, demonstrations of missing finger tips (the sign of traditional Yakuza punishment for mistakes). [The Times (London), 3-3-06] |
