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If she hadn't been so fond of him, they would be celebrating their 10th anniversary by now.
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I take it he is dead?

Did she inadvertently cause his death?
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I take it he is dead? Aye

Did she inadvertently cause his death? Not really, but she might have been able to prevent it.
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Are "she" and "him" the same people as "they"?
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Are "she" and "him" the same people as "they"? Yes
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Did he die of an accident? an illness? murder? suicide?
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He = adult male?
She = adult female?
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Catrien:
Did he die of an accident? Yes an illness? murder? suicide? No to rest

Martin:
He = adult male? Yes
She = adult female? Yes
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She human? He human?
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She human? He human? Yes to both
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Were they related?
Had they been related for almost 10 years?
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Were they related? Yes, though it does depend on how you define "related"
Had they been related for almost 10 years? No
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Were they blood relatives?

Related by marriage?

Would the 10th anniversary be one that they had in common?
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Were they blood relatives? No

Related by marriage? Yes

Would the 10th anniversary be one that they had in common? Yes, it would be their 10th wedding anniversary
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Has he been dead for more than a year?

More than 5?
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Has he been dead for more than a year? Yes

More than 5? Yes, let's say 8 years. Not relevant to solving the puzzle, though
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Could she have prevented it by her actions at one specific incident?
or
Her actions over a period of time?
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Could she have prevented it by her actions at one specific incident? This
or
Her actions over a period of time?
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Was she unable to help him with something which in turn caused his death?
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Did she plan something? ie a birthday party? a surprise trip? a special date? Or buy him something? that directly? indirectly? resulted in his death?
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Dabong:
Was she unable to help him with something which in turn caused his death? No

Mosquito:
Did she plan something? No..ISH. Could lead to FA though ie a birthday party? a surprise trip? a special date? Or buy him something? that directly? indirectly? resulted in his death? Something led indirectly to his death, but no to all the above examples
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Did she give him something that led to his death?
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Did she give him something that led to his death? Yope
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Did her gift indirectly cause his death (i.e. she gave him a fishing rod and he was eaten by a whale)?

If yes, did it cause an allergy? What about an accident? What about massive muscle atrophy due to sitting in front of a computer trying to figure out lateral thinking puzzles?
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Did her gift indirectly cause his death Yope. She didn't exactly present him with this thing, but..(i.e. she gave him a fishing rod and he was eaten by a whale)?

If yes, did it cause an allergy? No What about an accident? Yes, this What about massive muscle atrophy due to sitting in front of a computer trying to figure out lateral thinking puzzles? Haha..no
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Did she give him a favour of some sort?
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Did she give him a favour of some sort? Well yes, she did (arguably) do him a favour, by yopeishly 'giving' him something
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Was the gift she was 'giving' a physical act performed on or to him?

If so...did this cause him to fall off of something? How about onto something? Did it cause him to break something (a body part, like his neck or his skull)? Did he get stabbed by something?
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Was the gift she was 'giving' a physical act performed on or to him? No

If so...did this cause him to fall off of something? No How about onto something? No Did it cause him to break something (a body part, like his neck or his skull)? No, with a bit of an ish Did he get stabbed by something? No
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The yopeish giving: did it involve food?

Wild Guess: did he like to eat things that were bad for his health, and she was fond of him, so she didn't take them away / make him cut back / refuse to buy them for him / argue/nag/fight with him about them, thus contributing to his early demise?
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The yopeish giving: did it involve food? No

Wild Guess: did he like to eat things that were bad for his health, and she was fond of him, so she didn't take them away / make him cut back / refuse to buy them for him / argue/nag/fight with him about them, thus contributing to his early demise? No, but OTRT.
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drugs?
did she let him use cocaine/xtc/heroin/alcohol/tobacco/meth/amphetamine etc that caused his death?
did he die of an allergy?
poisoning?

did it cause him to break something...when you replied no, with a bit of an ish, could it be her word? his word? a promise?
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OK, I'll get a bit more general, then...

Did he have a habit? a preference? an item? a hobby? a job? that contributed to his death? that directly caused his death?

If she had been less fond of him, would she have insisted that he give up this whatever-it-was? Would her insistence caused him to be angry at her? to fight with her? to lie to her? to leave her?
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Senorina:
drugs? yes
did she let him use cocaine/xtc/heroin/alcohol/
tobacco This
/meth/amphetamine etc that caused his death? though he didn't die because of the tobacco
did he die of an allergy? No
poisoning? No

did it cause him to break something...when you replied no, with a bit of an ish, could it be her word? his word? a promise? No to all

Rabrab:
OK, I'll get a bit more general, then...

Did he have a habit? Yes a preference? an item? And yes a hobby? a job? that contributed to his death? Yes that directly caused his death? Yope

If she had been less fond of him, would she have insisted that he give up this whatever-it-was? Yesish Would her insistence caused him to be angry at her? Yes to fight with her? Maybe to lie to her? No to leave her? Unlikely
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so he smokes/chews tobacco?
cigarettes/cigar/pipe or irrel?
does the act of smoking cause some danger to occur whilst on the job that wouldn't have been a danger had he not been smoking?
fire?
suffocation?
explosion?
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i{Just to clarify} His death was somewhere other than at work, correct?
Did he die in a fire? at home?
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Senorina:
so he smokes Yes /chews tobacco?
cigarettes/cigar/pipe or irrel?
does the act of smoking cause some danger to occur whilst on the job that wouldn't have been a danger had he not been smoking? No..not on the job
fire?
suffocation?
explosion? Absolutely

Mike:
i{Just to clarify} His death was somewhere other than at work, correct? Correct
Did he die in a fire? Sort of, see above at home? yes
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In the bedroom? Shed? Garden? Livingroom? Kitchen? Bathroon? Dining room?
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BAsement?

Natural gas? or propane? leak relevant?

accumulated fumes from something, like painting rags? sewer gas?

Carbon Monoxide?
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Garage?
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yes, i was also thinking a gas leak of sorts...and the explosion happened in the home.
fireplace or garage?
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Martin:
In the bedroom? Shed? Garden? Livingroom? Kitchen? Kitchen Bathroon? Dining room?

Rabrab:
BAsement? No

Natural gas? or propane? Could be either..I think leak relevant? yes

accumulated fumes from something, like painting rags? No sewer gas? No

Carbon Monoxide? I think this may have been present

Garage? No

Senorina:
yes, i was also thinking a gas leak of sorts Yes ...and the explosion happened in the home. And yes
fireplace or garage? Nope, see above
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So maybe she didn't approve of smoking in the house, but because she was fond of her husband she let him smoke in the kitchen, Where he was unfortunate enough to light a match in the presence of a gas leak, the resulting explosion killing him?
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So maybe she didn't approve of smoking yes in the house, but because she was fond of her husband she let him smoke in the kitchen, Yope.. Where he was unfortunate enough to light a match in the presence of a gas leak, the resulting explosion killing him? This bit is correct
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Did he only smoke at certain times, e.g. Christmas? Birthdays? Their Anniversary?
Did he go into the kitchen to light his cigarette? (or cigar?)
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Did he only smoke at certain times, No e.g. Christmas? Birthdays? Their Anniversary?
Did he go into the kitchen to light his cigarette? He did, but he didn't intentionally go there specifically to light it, he just happened to do it there(or cigar?)
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Yope to she let him smoke in the house... had she asked him not to, and most of the time he didn't, but she didn't insist and sometimes he did?
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Yope to she let him smoke in the house... had she asked him not to, and most of the time he didn't, but she didn't insist and sometimes he did? Noish
See the post on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 6:16 pm!
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was one of the gas jets already lit? and there was one that had had been left on previously, the gas seeping out and when the cigarette sparked it ignited the leaking gas causing the explosion?
or...is it an oven that exploded? the mention of carbon monoxide led me to this possibility
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was one of the gas jets already lit? Yes and there was one that had had been left on previously, the gas seeping out and when the cigarette sparked it ignited the leaking gas causing the explosion? Correct
or...is it an oven that exploded? No the mention of carbon monoxide led me to this possibility Gas stove gas contains CO too, right? Not too sure, though..
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Did he light his cigarette from the burning gas jet, and as he did so, drew it through the leaking gas jet? Is he the person who lit the non-leaking gas jet? did he light it specifically to light his cigarettte from it?

and to clarify:
The thing he did that she didn't like, but allowed him to do anyway brecuse she was fond of him: smoking in the house in general? or was it some more specific part of smoking, like, lighting his cigarettes from the stove?
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Did he light his cigarette from the burning gas jet, and as he did so, drew it through the leaking gas jet? No Is he the person who lit the non-leaking gas jet? did he light it specifically to light his cigarettte from it?
Oh BLOOPER ALERT!
Answer to "was one of the gas jets already lit?" should be "no". There was one which was on, but none were lit. Sorry!!!

and to clarify:
The thing he did that she didn't like, but allowed him to do anyway brecuse she was fond of him: slight FA here smoking in the house in general? No..remove a few words and it'll be a yes or was it some more specific part of smoking, like, lighting his cigarettes from the stove? No
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I'm confuzzled. Recap or refocus, please?
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No prob
A man comes home one day, walks into the kitchen and lights his cigarette, not realising that the gas was leaking. The resulting explosion killed him. What did his wife do that indirectly caused this to happen?
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Is the lighter (are the matches? anything else?) he used relevant?
If yes, did she offer him the lighter?
Did she give (or say?) anything relevant to him?
Was the leaking gas pure bad luck? or has something to be found out about the way it happened to leak?
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Did she force him to only smoke in the kitchen? Try to get him to stop smoking? And he snuck/went into the kitchen to smoke so she would not know?
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wild strange thought time.....forgive me:-)

did his wife know that his smoking would probably lead to a long and painful death by cancer, and because she was so fond of him (loved him so much) she didn't want him to have to die in such a way, so she left the jet of gas on in the kitchen and told him he could smoke in there?
(not that a death from third degree burns is any more pleasant, but you never know!)
not one of my better trains of thought i'm sure!
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Posted on Monday, September 18, 2006 - 11:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tobias:
Is the lighter (are the matches? anything else?) he used relevant? Yes
If yes, did she offer him the lighter? Yope
Did she give (or say?) anything relevant to him? Yes
Was the leaking gas pure bad luck? Yes or has something to be found out about the way it happened to leak? No

Solane:
Did she force him to only smoke in the kitchen? No Try to get him to stop smoking? Yesish And he snuck/went into the kitchen to smoke so she would not know? No

Senorina:
did his wife know that his smoking would probably lead to a long and painful death by cancer, and because she was so fond of him (loved him so much) she didn't want him to have to die in such a way, so she left the jet of gas on in the kitchen and told him he could smoke in there? 0_0 !! No!! Haha that's awful!
(not that a death from third degree burns is any more pleasant, but you never know!)
not one of my better trains of thought i'm sure! Terrible indeed. :-)
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Was the gas jet on because his wife had been preparing a meal for him/them? (and possibly went out due to some mishap)
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Just to clarify: He used a lighter?
His own?
The lighter worked properly?
Was it a usual cheap lighter?
Did she give him the lighter?
Did she give him an object? cigarettes?
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Mike:
Was the gas jet on because his wife had been preparing a meal for him/them? (and possibly went out due to some mishap)No, the reason why the gas jet was on is irrelevant

Tobias:
Just to clarify: He used a lighter? Yes
His own? Yes
The lighter worked properly? Yes
Was it a usual cheap lighter? Irrel
Did she give him the lighter? Yope
Did she give him an object? cigarettes? Yope
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Did she fill up the lighter?
Is there another person envolved?
Is there another object still to be found out?
How did the fact that she was fond of him express:
she did something for him?
she said something to him? to someone else?
she gave something to him? to someone else?
Did she do this once? several times?
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Did she fill up the lighter? No
Is there another person envolved? No
Is there another object still to be found out? No, not an object
How did the fact that she was fond of him express:
she did something for him?
she said something to him? to someone else?
she gave something to him? This one, sort of
to someone else?
Did she do this once? Yes several times? No
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The thing envolved that is not an object is it:
something palpable? an animal? a plant? a gaz? a liquid?
The thing she sort of gave to him, was it: the lighter? the thing still to be found out?
Instead of giving it to him did she put it anywhere where he took it from? Did he take it from her?
Is the way he obtained the lighter relevant?
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Did she leave the lighter somewhere so that he would see it and use it to light his cigarettes?
Is there any person still to be found out in this story? If so, is it male? female?
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Tobias:
The thing envolved that is not an object is it:
something palpable? No an animal? a plant? a gaz? a liquid? So no to all these
The thing she sort of gave to him, was it: the lighter? Yes the thing still to be found out? No, the "thing" still to be found out is a circumstance
Instead of giving it to him did she put it anywhere where he took it from? No Did he take it from her? Yesish..well yes actually, but a complete yes might lead to an FA
Is the way he obtained the lighter relevant? In the first place? No.

Daniel:
Did she leave the lighter somewhere so that he would see it and use it to light his cigarettes? No
Is there any person still to be found out in this story? No If so, is it male? female?
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Did he get the lighter very recently with reference to the timeframe of the puzzle?
Did he take the lighter without her knowlege? Was she intending to give him the lighter, but he found it before the appropriate time?
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Is this circumstance still to be found out related to forgetfulness? Does this circumstance happen in everyday life in a family?
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Did the circumstance envolve physical contact between them? a kiss? a hug?
Did she have the lighter before he used it for the last time? Did she do anything with it?
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Pleb:
Did he get the lighter very recently with reference to the timeframe of the puzzle? Yope..depends on what you mean by "get the lighter"
Did he take the lighter without her knowlege? No Was she intending to give him the lighter, but he found it before the appropriate time? No

Daniel:
Is this circumstance still to be found out related to forgetfulness? No Does this circumstance happen in everyday life in a family? To some extent, yes

Tobasi:
Did the circumstance envolve physical contact between them? No a kiss? a hug? No to both
Did she have the lighter before he used it for the last time? Yes Did she do anything with it? No
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Is the circumstance a trait of him? of her? of their partnership?
Is the occupation of either of them relevant? or habbits apart from smoking?
Is the circumstance something that happend once? several times? or is it rather a status?
Would someone observing them perceive the circumstance? someone knowing them?
Is the circumstance visible? audible?
Before, did she keep the lighter away from him?
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Is the circumstance some help she gave him? Advice? An opportunity?
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Tobias:
Is the circumstance a trait of him? Yope of her? of their partnership? No to rest
Is the occupation of either of them relevant? No or habits apart from smoking? No
Is the circumstance something that happend once? In the context of this puzzle, yes several times? or is it rather a status? Yesish to this too
Would someone observing them perceive the circumstance? Yes someone knowing them? Yes
Is the circumstance visible? audible? Yes to both but may mislead
Before, did she keep the lighter away from him? Yes

Dan:
Is the circumstance some help she gave him? Sort of.. Advice? Yesish An opportunity? No
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Is there a characteristic trait of him to be found out?
Is there something about their apartment to be found out?
So first he had the lighter, then for a certain time she had it and afterwards he had it again, right? Is this relevant?
Is the way the lighter was exchanged relevant?
Did he smoke during the period she had the lighter?
Did she want him to stop smoking?
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Is this "advice" she gave him related to smoking? Cooking? Doing something in the kitchen?
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Tobias:
Is there a characteristic trait of him to be found out? Not trait exactly, but something about him, yes
Is there something about their apartment to be found out? No
So first he had the lighter, then for a certain time she had it and afterwards he had it again, right? Yes Is this relevant? Yes
Is the way the lighter was exchanged relevant? The way it was exchanged no, the nature of the exchange, yes
Did he smoke during the period she had the lighter? No
Did she want him to stop smoking? Yesish

Dan:
Is this "advice" she gave him related to smoking? Yes Cooking? No Doing something in the kitchen? No
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Does he have any physical impairment (medical condition)?
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Considering he didn't have the lighter again, would he still have gone to the kitchen?
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Did he want to quit smoking? If yes, did she help him to do so? or did she want him to enjoy a cigarette anyway?
Why did she have the lighter for a period of time: he wanted to stop smoking temporarily? she wanted him to do so? they did not have the money for cigarettes?
Did they both live in the apartment? relevant?
Is the time relevant? or where the apartment is situated?
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Daniel:
Does he have any physical impairment (medical condition Yes)?
Considering he didn't have the lighter again, would he still have gone to the kitchen? Probably, but irrel

Tobias:
Did he want to quit smoking? No If yes, did she help him to do so? or did she want him to enjoy a cigarette anyway? Yope
Why did she have the lighter for a period of time: he wanted to stop smoking temporarily? No she wanted him to do so? Yes they did not have the money for cigarettes? No, they did
Did they both live in the apartment? Yes relevant? Not really
Is the time relevant? No or where the apartment is situated? No
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Is his physical impairment: respiratory? in his limb(s)? sensory organs (ear, nose, eyes)? Gastrointestinal? Neurological? Psychiatric?
Was he in a wheelchair?
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Is his physical impairment (not eactly a physical impairment as such): respiratory?Yes in his limb(s)? sensory organs (ear, nose And this , eyes)? Gastrointestinal? Neurological? Psychiatric?
Was he in a wheelchair? No
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Has he lost his sense of smell?
Was the respiratory impairment a result of smoking?
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Was it really bad for him to smoke (compared to a healthy man)?
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Has he lost his sense of smell? Yesish.. only temporarily
Was the respiratory impairment a result of smoking? Could be, irrel

Was it really bad for him to smoke (compared to a healthy man)? Yesish

There seems to be a bit of an FA around here, I think..
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Did he have a cold?
Did his medical condition involve: that he couldn't smell the leaking gas? that he reduced smoking?
Would he have smelled the leaking gas if he hadn't have his medical condition?
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Did he have a cold? Yes!
Did his medical condition involve: that he couldn't smell the leaking gas? Yes that he reduced smoking? Yesish
Would he have smelled the leaking gas if he hadn't have his medical condition? Probably
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So we still have to find out how she interfered, right?
Did she have the lighter during his cold?
Did she want him not to smoke during his cold?
Anything else still to be found out?
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So we still have to find out how she interfered, right? Yes
Did she have the lighter during his cold? Yes, she took it away from him
Did she want him not to smoke during his cold? Correct
Anything else still to be found out? Not really
Let's have a...

******************SPOILER********************

A man was having a bad cold, so his wife took his lighter and cigarettes away from him to stop him smoking till he got better. The next day, however, he complained that being unable to smoke was making him feel even worse, and begged her to return them to him. Being extremely soft-hearted towards him, she relented.
When he came home from work that day, he entered the kitchen to get himself something to eat, unaware that the stove was leaking gas. He lit his cigarette, and the resulting explosion killed him instantly. His wife has been alone ever since.


Thanks for playing!
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Thank you Jackie for the puzzle.
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I hope this is fiction/FYOI...
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Oh yes, it was entirely FMOI.:-)

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