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Lynne (Lynne)
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Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 12:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jill and Bob were out walking when they bumped into an old friend, Jack. After the usual greetings were exchanged Jack said 'Hey, you didn't tell me you'd been away'. How did he know?

I think that I may have run this before, so if you're an old timer and think you recognise it, email me before posting spioler guesses.
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Jill--human adult female?
Bob--human adult male?
Jack--human adult male?
Relevant exactly where they were walking? Did they bump into each other in the country where they were all originally from? Relevant how Jack knew them in the first place? Relevant how many years they had not seen each other? Relationship between Jill and Bob relevant? Jill and Jack? Jack and Bob?
Did Jack know the specific country they had been to? Or did he just know that they had gone away? How long had they been away--just a few weeks? less? more than a month? years?
Did Jack see something that triggered the revelation? Did he hear something? Something Jill and Bob said? Accent? Clothing?
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Jill--human adult female? yes
Bob--human adult male? no
Jack--human adult male? yes
Relevant exactly where they were walking? no Did they bump into each other in the country where they were all originally from? yes Relevant how Jack knew them in the first place? no Relevant how many years they had not seen each other? FA Relationship between Jill and Bob relevant? yes Jill and Jack? no Jack and Bob? yessish
Did Jack know the specific country they had been to? no, and FA Or did he just know that they had gone away? yes How long had they been away--just a few weeks? less? more than a month? any of these years? but not this
Did Jack see something that triggered the revelation? no Did he hear something? no Something Jill and Bob said? no Accent? no Clothing? no
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Bob--human? adult? male? living? inanimate?

Jill & Bob--married? engaged? Going out? Some blood relationship? Friends?

Jack & Bob--married? engaged? Going out? Some blood relationship? Friends?

Had they been away? Relevant where they were? Or why they were there?

He knew that they hadn't told them that they'd been away because they never said anything to him?

Had they not seen each other for some time? Hours? Days? Weeks? Months? Years? Ever?

Away--Did they actually leave their home? The city/town/area where they lived? The state/province? The country? The planet?

Or away in some other sense? Like afk? (Away from keyboard)

Had they been communicating recently? By talking? Face to face?
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Bob--human? a pet? a child? female?
Are Jill and Bob related by blood? Is Jill Bob's mother?
When Jack said that they had been away, did he mean they had gone to a different country? a different state? town? city? away from the office? away from an organisation?
Did Jack and Jill ever lose contact?
Just a random thought as I typed that--are they the Jack and Jill who went up the hill?
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Bob--human? no adult? yes male? yes living? yes inanimate? no

Jill & Bob--married? engaged? Going out? Some blood relationship? Friends? this one

Jack & Bob--married? engaged? Going out? Some blood relationship? Friends? this one

Had they been away? yes Relevant where they were? yope Or why they were there? yope

He knew that they hadn't told them that they'd been away because they never said anything to him? yes

Had they not seen each other for some time? Hours? Days? Weeks? Months? Years? Ever? most likely no more than a few weeks at the most

Away--Did they actually leave their home? yes The city/town/area where they lived? yes The state/province? not relevant The country? not relevant The planet? nah

Or away in some other sense? Like afk? (Away from keyboard) no

Had they been communicating recently? not until they met up that day By talking? Face to face? so no to both
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Bob--human? no a pet? yes a child? female?
Are Jill and Bob related by blood? Is Jill Bob's mother? no to both
When Jack said that they had been away, did he mean they had gone to a different country? a different state? town? city? any of these, not relevant where away from the office? no away from an organisation? no
Did Jack and Jill ever lose contact? only in that they hadn't met by design or accident
Just a random thought as I typed that--are they the Jack and Jill who went up the hill? nope
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Had they been communicating recently? not until they met up that day
just to clarify - they were old friends, who just hadn't met for a while
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bob is a baby that was born during the vacation
.....just a guess
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bob is a baby that was born during the vacation
.....just a guess
no, Bob is a pet - (see Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 5:23 pm)
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What animal Bob is relevant? Dog? Cat? Rabbit? Horse? Other?
Is Jill his owner? Did Jack use to be his owner?
If Jack had not seen Bob, would he have known that Jill had been away? Both Jill and Bob went away, correct?
If Jack had been hiding behind a tree and seen Jill and Bob, but didn't speak to them, would he know that they had been away?
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bob is a dog?
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What animal Bob is relevant? yes Dog? yes Cat? Rabbit? Horse? Other?
Is Jill his owner? yes Did Jack use to be his owner? no
If Jack had not seen Bob, would he have known that Jill had been away? no Both Jill and Bob went away, correct? yes
If Jack had been hiding behind a tree and seen Jill and Bob, but didn't speak to them, would he know that they had been away? no

bob is a dog? yes
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Was it something Bob did? Something about Bob's appearance? Had Bob changed in any way since Jack last saw him? Did Jill say anything about Bob? Did Bob greet Jack? Did he recognise him?
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Was it something Bob did? no Something about Bob's appearance? no Had Bob changed in any way since Jack last saw him?yes Did Jill say anything about Bob? no Did Bob greet Jack? yes Did he recognise him? yes
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Is Jacks profession relevant?
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Is Jacks profession relevant? no
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If Jack had only seen Bob would he know they had been away?
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If Jack had only seen Bob would he know they had been away? possibly
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Was Bobs physical appearance changed since he last saw him? Were his actions/behaviour different? Had Jack seen Bob before?
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Was Bobs physical appearance changed since he last saw him? no Were his actions/behaviour different? no Had Jack seen Bob before? yes
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Was Bob wearing something which pointed to them being away?
Some item of doggie-clothing?
Or some collar? Or tag on a collar?
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Was Bob wearing something which pointed to them being away? no with a bit of an ish
Some item of doggie-clothing? no
Or some collar? no Or tag on a collar? no
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Passport?
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Passport? no
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Electronic Chip relevant?
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Electronic Chip relevant? no
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Is the breed of the dog important?
Is Bob a dog used for specific tasks? (eg: rescue missions... etc)
Was it unusual for Jack to see Jill and Bob together?
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Was Bob a seeing eye dog? A service animal for the disabled?
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s the breed of the dog important? no
Is Bob a dog used for specific tasks? (eg: rescue missions... etc) no
Was it unusual for Jack to see Jill and Bob together? no

Was Bob a seeing eye dog? no A service animal for the disabled? no

I have to say that there is a FA lurking
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Does the FA concern Jill? Bob? Jack? The trip away? The current location? Jack and Jills Relationship? Jill and Bobs realationship? Jack and Bobs relationship?
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Does the FA concern Jill? no Bob? yes Jack? no The trip away? yes The current location? no Jack and Jills Relationship? no Jill and Bobs realationship? no Jack and Bobs relationship? no
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Is it the fact that he saw Jill and Bob together that caused him to realise Jill had been away? Did Jack see Jill and Bob together before they went away? Did Jill go away with Bob? or did she obtain him while she was away? and bring him back with her?
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Is it the fact that he saw Jill and Bob together that caused him to realise Jill had been away? no Did Jack see Jill and Bob together before they went away? n/r but undoubtedly he knew them together Did Jill go away with Bob? no or did she obtain him while she was away? no and bring him back with her? no
there's a good question amongst these!
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Does Bob have a master as well as a mistress? Have Jill and Bob ever been seperated?
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Does Bob have a master as well as a mistress? irrelevant Have Jill and Bob ever been seperated? yes
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Does Bob normally live with Jill?
Had Bob been in kennels?
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Does Bob normally live with Jill? yes
Had Bob been in kennels? yes
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Had Bob been in kennels when Jill was away?
Did Jack realise that Bob had been in kennels?
So therefore assumed Jill had been away?
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Had Bob been in kennels when Jill was away? yes
Did Jack realise that Bob had been in kennels? yes
So therefore assumed Jill had been away? yes
good questions but what gave it away?
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Is a condition of being in the kennels some hair trim for the dog?
Would Bob be fed significantly more while in kennels? Or less?
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Is a condition of being in the kennels some hair trim for the dog? no
Would Bob be fed significantly more while in kennels? Or less? no to both
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When she meets Jack is Jill on the way home from picking Bob up from the kennels?
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Did anything about Bob's appearance point towards a stay in the kennels?
Or did something about about Jill point towards Bob being in kennels?
Or towards being on holiday, e.g. a tan??
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When she meets Jack is Jill on the way home from picking Bob up from the kennels? quite possibly, but not essential
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Were Bob's manners or the way he barked different?
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Sorry, my question above had been already answered (NO).
So, tell me if I am correct. Jack realized Bob was somehow different, but not because of any physical or behavioural aspect.
Would someone who has never met Bob realize he was somehow strange?
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Did Jack know for certain that Bob had been in the kennels?
Did Jack see Bob in the kennels?
Did Jack see Bob at all while Jill was away?
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Were Bob's manners or the way he barked different? no
Sorry, my question above had been already answered (NO). OK, but I thought it was a different question anyway!
So, tell me if I am correct. Jack realized Bob was somehow different, but not because of any physical or behavioural aspect. not behaviour, but something physical
Would someone who has never met Bob realize he was somehow strange? it's possible, yes

Did Jack know for certain that Bob had been in the kennels? yes
Did Jack see Bob in the kennels? no
Did Jack see Bob at all while Jill was away? no
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Bob was physically different, but his appearance was normal, right? (According to Sept. 25, 3:18)
Was Bob a "normal" dog? (4 legs, one tail, one head, etc?)
Was Bob physically injured on the kennels?
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Bob was physically different, but his appearance was normal, right? (According to Sept. 25, 3:18) yes
Was Bob a "normal" dog? (4 legs, one tail, one head, etc?) yes
Was Bob physically injured on the kennels? no
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Is the clothing or something put on Bob relevant? If so, was it put when he was on the kennels?
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s the clothing or something put on Bob relevant? not clothing If so, was it put when he was on the kennels? yes
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Is Bob's colour important?
Whatever it was done to Bob, was it also done to the other dogs on the kennels?
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Is Bob's colour important? no
Whatever it was done to Bob, was it also done to the other dogs on the kennels? yes
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Lynne, I think you missed some questions (Sept 26, 12:28pm):
Did anything about Bob's appearance point towards a stay in the kennels?
Or did something about about Jill point towards Bob being in kennels?
Or towards being on holiday, e.g. a tan??
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Did Jill realise something was different about Bob?
Was she happy about the change?
Was the thing that had changed with Bob permenant?
Was it the same dog?
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sorry I missed these - classic example of questions coming in at the same time as I was posting and not checking thoroughly

Did anything about Bob's appearance point towards a stay in the kennels? no
Or did something about about Jill point towards Bob being in kennels? no
Or towards being on holiday, e.g. a tan?? no
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Did Jill realise something was different about Bob? yes
Was she happy about the change? irrelevant
Was the thing that had changed with Bob permenant? no
Was it the same dog? yes!
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Whatever has been done to Bob, is it usually done on kennels? If so, is it something you (owner) have to pay extra?
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Whatever has been done to Bob, is it usually done on kennels? yes If so, is it something you (owner) have to pay extra? no
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Is this "something done to Bob" related to water? Paint?
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Is this "something done to Bob" related to water? Paint? neither
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Is this "something done to Bob" used as an ID of some kind?
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Is this "something done to Bob" used as an ID of some kind? no
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I have never been to kennels nor have I any pets (dogs or cats). Will I be able to solve this puzzle? :-)
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I have never been to kennels nor have I any pets (dogs or cats). Will I be able to solve this puzzle? yes - because it just takes lateral thinking. :-) Put yourself in Jack's shoes and take it from there
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Is it relevant the place where Bob, Jill and Jack met?
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Is it relevant the place where Bob, Jill and Jack met? no
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How long will Bob be "wearing" whatever it was put on him? Less than a day? One day? A week? A month? Until next time he goes to the kennel?
Will Jill try to remove it from Bob?
Is it easily removed? Do you have to wash your hands after removing it?
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Ok just to clarify things to myself:

Jill went away for a while?
Before going she put her dog Bob in a kennel?
When she returned she picked Bob up from the kennel?
Some sort of change occured to Bob whilst in the kennel?
Jill noticed the change?
Jack, upon meeting Jill and Bob, noticed the thing that had changed? and therefore realised Bob had been in a kennel? so Jill must have been away?
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How long will Bob be "wearing" whatever it was put on him? Less than a day? One day? maybe a day or two A week? A month? Until next time he goes to the kennel?
Will Jill try to remove it from Bob? no
Is it easily removed? not really but see it's duration above Do you have to wash your hands after removing it? not necessarily

Ok just to clarify things to myself:

Jill went away for a while? yes
Before going she put her dog Bob in a kennel? yes
When she returned she picked Bob up from the kennel? yes
Some sort of change occured to Bob whilst in the kennel? yes
Jill noticed the change? yes or irrelevant
Jack, upon meeting Jill and Bob, noticed the thing that had changed? yes and therefore realised Bob had been in a kennel?yes so Jill must have been away? yes
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If Bob had been looked after by someone else i.e. a friend of Jills would there still have been the same change in Bob?
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Will it vanish spontaneously? Will it fall from Bob? Will it be washed out?
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If Bob had been looked after by someone else i.e. a friend of Jills would there still have been the same change in Bob? probably not

Will it vanish spontaneously? yes Will it fall from Bob? no ish Will it be washed out? that could work
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Dye?
Food colouring?
Some kind of identification mark the kennel applied?
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Dye?
Food colouring?
Some kind of identification mark the kennel applied? no to all
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Is the physical thing internal? external? attached to Bob in some way?
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Is the physical thing internal? external? this one attached to Bob in some way? yes
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Is it something Bob is wearing?
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When this is done to dogs in kennels, does it bring any benefit to the animals?
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Is it something Bob is wearing? yes
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When this is done to dogs in kennels, does it bring any benefit to the animals? supposedly - according to our own local kennels
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Some kind of flea treatment?
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Some kind of flea treatment? no
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How would Jack notice the change through the sense of:
Sight? Hearing? Smell? Touch? (I will refrain from adding taste as that would be too wierd!)
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Is Bob's smell different than usual?
This thing that Bob is wearing: solid? Is it circular? Triangular? Is it made of plastic? Glass? Paper?
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How would Jack notice the change through the sense of:
Sight? Hearing? Smell? YES! Touch? (I will refrain from adding taste as that would be too wierd!)
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Is Bob's smell different than usual? YES
This thing that Bob is wearing: solid? Is it circular? Triangular? Is it made of plastic? Glass? Paper? none of these
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Some form of dog perfume?
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Do you want to push forward to find out why he smells different? Or is that sufficient for you? You've already worked so hard!
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Some form of dog perfume? YES!!

Spoiler to follow.....
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********* SPOILER *********

Whenever our dog comes home from kennels he always smells of perfume. Now my dog may have been neutered but he's still got his boyish pride and I think it's humiliating to have him smell all girly. OK for poodles but not for a big retriever! The kennels say that it makes it easier for them to brush the dogs. So in our scenario here, Jack was greeted not only by Jill by an enthusiastic Bob who jumped up close enough to Jack's nose that he could detect the giveaway smell of kennels, and thus Jill's absence for a while.


Thank you one and all - it's been months since I've posted a puzzle and it's good to know that it's still as much fun.
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Thanks Lynne, great puzzle, maybe I can get back to work now instead of worrying about the strange goings on in dog kennels!
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Actually I've never seen them use it but I think it's more of a scented powder than a perfume as such - I'm also guessing that it's to cover up any smells of the kennel itself if it's not been cleaned too well. Hmmm
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Thanks, Lynne, it was quite fun trying to find out. The solution is, as I thought, quite simple. I just needed that "lateral thinking"... :-)

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