| Author | Message | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 614 Registered: 7-2006 |
They couldn't start without him. My first setting, I'll try to keep bloopers to a minimum. | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 6 Registered: 9-2006 |
Who are "they"? Humans? Is "him" a human? Does it talk about a game of some kind? | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 8 Registered: 9-2006 |
Does it talk about some kind of a job "they" couldn't do without "him"? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 616 Registered: 7-2006 |
Who are "they"? Humans? yes Is "him" a human? no Does it talk about a game of some kind? no Does it talk about some kind of a job "they" couldn't do without "him"? no | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 17 Registered: 9-2006 |
Is "him" an animal? An object? An alien? Are "they" male? Adult? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 619 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is "him" an animal? this one An object? An alien? Are "they" male? one is Adult?{both are} | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 620 Registered: 7-2006 |
p.s. Early spoylers by email please | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 532 Registered: 3-2006 |
Since you said both are adults, I'll assume there are 2 of them? The other one is female? Is their relationship relevant? The animal: mammal? bird? reptile? sea-based? Is it a pet? Does it belong to both of them? To him? To her? Were they going to start a task? a meal? a trip? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 631 Registered: 7-2006 |
Jumpingjack Since you said both are adults, I'll assume there are 2 of them? correct. I'll have to watch for giving away more than intended  The other one is female? True but not particularly relevant Is their relationship relevant? They aren't related as family, but their connection to each other is relevant The animal: mammal? Yes bird?no reptile? no sea-based? no Is it a pet? YES Does it belong to both of them? To him? To her? To her Were they going to start a task? no a meal? no a trip? Yesish | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 55 Registered: 9-2006 |
Is this a dog? A cat? Are they going to do something with the pet? Tame it? Take it to a vet for: taming, surgery, killing (not sure how killing your pet is called in English)? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 632 Registered: 7-2006 |
Judgedeadd Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 11:45 am: Is this a dog? THIS ONE A cat? Are they going to do something with the pet? Yesish Tame it? no Take it to a vet for: taming, surgery, killing (not sure how killing your pet is called in English)? To the best of my knowlege they aren't taking it to the vet, and the woman certainly isn't after having her dog put down (English phrase). In fact, there isn't a specific relevant destination here | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 57 Registered: 9-2006 |
Are they going around the world? And they cannot leave their dog at home? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 633 Registered: 7-2006 |
Judgedeadd Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 12:42 pm: Are they going around the world? And they cannot leave their dog at home? I'l try to answer without being misleading or giving too much away. They aren't going round the world. They are going somewhere, but the destination isn't relevant. It's true to say they can't leave the dog behind. In fact to be accurate, she is going somewhere. | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 65 Registered: 9-2006 |
Are they going to die? | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 128 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is the place that they are leaving relevant? their home? Is the way they are leaving relevant? on foot? by car? Are they friends? a couple? colleagues? Is their occupation relevant? Could they start if they had a different dog? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 535 Registered: 3-2006 |
Duration of their journey relevant? Will they be coming home in less than a day? week? month? year? more? Do they have luggage on them? Is George the man? The dog? Someone else? A famous figure? The name of the ship/car/train/plane? Relevant? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 634 Registered: 7-2006 |
Judgeadd Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 4:23 pm: Are they going to die? No, despite being a lateral puzzle, no-one dies. This is a true story Tobasi Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 7:44 pm: Is the place that they are leaving relevant? not really, but there's an FA here their home? yes, but with same FA Is the way they are leaving relevant? Yes, same FA on foot? No by car? YES Are they friends? No a couple? No colleagues? No Is their occupation relevant? Hers, no. His, YES Could they start if they had a different dog?Yope. If they changed dogs now, they definitely couldn't start. If there'd been a different dog before this began, this scenario possibly wouldn't have occurred. Jumpingjack Posted on Saturday, September 30, 2006 - 5:49 am: Duration of their journey relevant? No Will they be coming home in less than a day? week? month? year? more? Not known, but likely to be under a month. Not really relevant. And for a minor hint, there could easily be more than one journey... Do they have luggage on them? No. Not relevant Is George the man? The dog? George is the dog Someone else? A famous figure? The name of the ship/car/train/plane? Relevant? No, only that it's a true story and George is actually the name of the dog in question | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 545 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is the FA that they are both leaving together? Only the girl is leaving? Has the man been employed to be her driver? Is George ill? Physically disabled? something along these lines? Is this journey supposed to make him better? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 636 Registered: 7-2006 |
Jumpingjack Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 10:33 am: Is the FA that they are both leaving together? YES Only the girl is leaving? Yes Has the man been employed to be her driver? YOPE. Employed yes, driver no Is George ill? No Physically disabled? Nosomething along these lines? No Is this journey supposed to make him better? No | ||
| 0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 526 Registered: 3-2006 |
Does she live in a caravan/mobile home? Does George do some trick? Are they performers of some kind? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 639 Registered: 7-2006 |
0815 Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 11:12 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does she live in a caravan/mobile home? No Does George do some trick? No, but explore Are they performers of some kind? No | ||
| 0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 529 Registered: 3-2006 |
So, she is leaving? George has to come with her? The other person is not leaving with her? She can't leave George behind because it would be bad for her? because it would be bad for George? because it would be bad for the other person? because it would be bad for someone else? Can George open doors? | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 103 Registered: 9-2006 |
Is George supposed to find something by its smell? Is he a sniffer dog? Is she a policeman? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 641 Registered: 7-2006 |
0815 Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 12:14 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So, she is leaving? Yes George has to come with her? yes - or she's not going The other person is not leaving with her? correct She can't leave George behind because it would be bad for her? not bad - impossible because it would be bad for George? no - george is blissfully unaware of his part in this because it would be bad for the other person? No because it would be bad for someone else? No Can George open doors? Not known, not relevant Judgeadd Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 12:49 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is George supposed to find something by its smell? No Is he a sniffer dog? No, a family pet Is she a policeman? Not known, not relevant | ||
| 0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 535 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is she physically connected to George and the two can't be separated? Are there manacles or something like that? Is George a guard dog? | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 109 Registered: 9-2006 |
Is George a gift for someone? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 549 Registered: 3-2006 |
George is different from other dogs, correct? is it a physical difference? does he have any special abilities? does he have connections? Will she be driving? will George be sitting in the front? the back? relevant? Where she is going is not relevant, so would she achieve her aims if she drove all day for a few months aimlessly, stopping at hotels along the way? Will she gain anything material from this journey? Does she need to show George to someone? Do we only have to find out the special characteristic of George, or is there something about her we need to know as well? Man--footman? butler? dog-trainer? something to do with her car? with her dog? with her house? with her job? with herself? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 644 Registered: 7-2006 |
0815 Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 2:12 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is she physically connected to George and the two can't be separated? No Are there manacles or something like that? No Is George a guard dog? No, family pet Judgeadd Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 2:12 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is George a gift for someone? No Jumpingjack Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 2:19 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- George is different from other dogs, correct? Not different, this could have been almost any dog. It's the circumstances that make the scenario is it a physical difference? So no does he have any special abilities? And no does he have connections? ?? No Will she be driving? Yes will George be sitting in the front? YES the back? relevant? YES! Where she is going is not relevant, so would she achieve her aims if she drove all day for a few months aimlessly, stopping at hotels along the way? Yes, I imagine Will she gain anything material from this journey? No, or not relevant Does she need to show George to someone? No Do we only have to find out the special characteristic of George, or is there something about her we need to know as well? Tricky to answer. I wouldn't call it a characteristic of George, he seems a reasonably normal dog, and most other dogs could easily be in this scenario. And she's nothing other than the dog's owner. But some information prior to the puzzle is to be discovered Man--footman? No butler? No dog-trainer? No something to do with her car? YOPE - explore with her dog? No with her house? No with her job? No with herself? Not really | ||
| 0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 544 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is the physical distance between her and George relevant? If the distance between her and George would be the same if George sat on the back seat, could he sit there? Is there a back seat at all? Is it relevant that she can see George all the time? Is she acting according to someone's wish? last will? Did somebody promise something? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 553 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is the window down? relevant? Is there anything about the car that we need to find out? Is there a mini steering wheel, GPS etc? Is George sitting on anything relevant? Is he hiding something for her? Is the man going to be in the car at all? Is his employment a long-term thing, or just for this occasion? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 651 Registered: 7-2006 |
0815 Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 3:21 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is the physical distance between her and George relevant? Yesish If the distance between her and George would be the same if George sat on the back seat, could he sit there? As I understand it, it must be the front seat Is there a back seat at all? Not known, but see above Is it relevant that she can see George all the time? No Is she acting according to someone's wish? Not wish, no last will? No Did somebody promise something? No Jumpingjack Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 3:27 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is the window down? Irr relevant? Is there anything about the car that we need to find out? YES Is there a mini steering wheel, GPS etc? None of these Is George sitting on anything relevant? No Is he hiding something for her? No Is the man going to be in the car at all? Prior to the moment of the puzzle statement, yes Is his employment a long-term thing, or just for this occasion? For this occasion Good line of questions both! | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 130 Registered: 9-2006 |
Does a car have a special seat for dogs? Does George have to test a new, special feature to be installed in cars? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 654 Registered: 7-2006 |
JudgeDeadd Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 4:36 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does a car have a special seat for dogs? No Does George have to test a new, special feature to be installed in cars? No | ||
| 0815 (0815)
New member Username: 0815 Post Number: 547 Registered: 3-2006 |
Did someone force her to act like this? Did some authority impose it on her to act like this? Does George carry some kind of device? GPS device or similar? Is anything unusual installed in this car? Is anything taken out of the car? I hope I don't ask about things in yesterday's newspaper here: Is her occupation relevant? Did she commit a crime? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 655 Registered: 7-2006 |
0815 Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 6:23 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Did someone force her to act like this? No Did some authority impose it on her to act like this? No Does George carry some kind of device? YOPE GPS device or similar? {But no} Is anything unusual installed in this car? Not unusual in any modern car Is anything taken out of the car? No, but worth exploring I hope I don't ask about things in yesterday's newspaper here: hmm... spoylers by email please Is her occupation relevant? No Did she commit a crime? No | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 558 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is there anything in George's collar? something clipped onto his ear? something imprinted on him? something in him? Does the man repair the car in any way? Does he test something? Install a device? Is the radio relevant? air-conditioning? gearstick? dashboard? speakers? glove compartment? Not someone's wish, so...someone's need? Or is she doing something that someone will not like? Does she have benevolent intentions? malevolent ones? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 661 Registered: 7-2006 |
Jumpingjack Posted on Tuesday, October 03, 2006 - 12:16 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Is there anything in George's collar? No something clipped onto his ear? No something imprinted on him? No something in him? YES! Does the man repair the car in any way? This is how you'd put it, though he doesn't actually do anything Does he test something? No Install a device? No Is the radio relevant? No air-conditioning? No gearstick? No dashboard? No with a small -ish speakers? No glove compartment? No Not someone's wish, so...someone's need? No Or is she doing something that someone will not like? No Does she have benevolent intentions? malevolent ones? neutral | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 140 Registered: 9-2006 |
Are they going to test something? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 662 Registered: 7-2006 |
Judgedeadd Posted on Tuesday, October 03, 2006 - 12:46 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are they going to test something? No | ||
| Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann Post Number: 475 Registered: 6-2006 |
Is the dog microchipped? Is crime of any kind involved? Is she trying to escape from something? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 673 Registered: 7-2006 |
Beccaann Posted on Tuesday, October 03, 2006 - 6:46 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Beccaann Is the dog microchipped? That's No, but with an -ISH Is crime of any kind involved? No Is she trying to escape from something? No, just get here & there in her car | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 149 Registered: 9-2006 |
Did the dog swallow something? Hey! Did he swallow a electronic key for the car, that is used to start up the car? And they need to touch the car devices with his belly? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 676 Registered: 7-2006 |
JudgeDeadd Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 10:46 am: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Did the dog swallow something? YES! Hey! Did he swallow a electronic key for the car, that is used to start up the car? And they need to touch the car devices with his belly? Reckon that's close enough for a *** SPOILER *** The story concerns a woman who has a car, and a dog (George). The battery in the car key needs changing, but when she changes it she finds the car won't start. Along comes the AA man (for it is he), and after a brief inspection of the key asks if 'a bit of plastic fell out' when changing the battery. The answer to this is yes, but that the dog then ate it! The man deduces that the dog has swallowed the security code chip without which they can't start the car. Not wishing to slice open the dog to retrieve the chip, or wait for nature to take it's course, the AA man applies a little lateral thinking and sits the dog in the front passenger seat, whereupon the car starts fine! 0815 asked about sitting George in the back, which may have worked, but the story specifically mentioned the front seat. This is from a British news story only last week, which I was aware meant that a number of our group may immediately cotton on to, but the story was too good to miss! Hope you enjoyed, I'll find another ASAP. | ||
| Judgedeadd (Judgedeadd)
New member Username: Judgedeadd Post Number: 151 Registered: 9-2006 |
I never read the news about it, but I once read a very similar story, about a little boy who swallowed the chip. | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 683 Registered: 7-2006 |
Must be a more common ocurrence than I imagined! I wouldn't like to be the mechanic responsible for retrieving th chip... |
