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Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 65 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 2:58 pm: |      |
How can there be a system in this? |
Yovax (Yovax)
New member Username: Yovax
Post Number: 4 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 4:18 pm: |      |
system meaning computer? an organized procedure? anything mechanical? does it have life? is it something conceptual? this meaning object? something with life in it? is this a real-life scenario? |
Yovax (Yovax)
New member Username: Yovax
Post Number: 5 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 4:20 pm: |      |
OOOpppss... rulebreaker... didnt read that... |
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 66 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 4:30 pm: |      |
system meaning computer? Dead on! an organized procedure? No. anything mechanical? Perhaps. does it have life? Rather not. is it something conceptual? Tralalalala this meaning object? How should I know? something with life in it? A man goes into a bar... is this a real-life scenario? Does life include bacteria? OOOpppss... rulebreaker... didnt read that... It can happen to anyone |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa
Post Number: 604 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 5:13 am: |      |
What's a rulebreaker? Somnambulate? Estivate? Ruminate? Stridulate? Can you answer my question? Can you answer a question asking you a question about whether or not this is a rulebreaker? What would you reply with if I asked you a question? Is there a pattern? Does it involve letters, numbers, and other characters? Could every question be answered using a QWERTY keyboard and a four-dimensional mouse? |
Rubberduck (Rubberduck)
New member Username: Rubberduck
Post Number: 37 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 7:17 am: |      |
As an aside: This query does not have to do with solving your puzzle. I am fairly new to these lateral puzzles and I honestly would like to know what the term "rulebreaker" means. |
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 69 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 7:36 am: |      |
A rulebreaker is a game where you try to find a pattern or rule in my answers to your questions. My answers according to the rule will be in bold. Your guesses about what the rule is should be formatted in italics in order to distinguish them from questions that are supposed to be answered according to the rule. Only direct guesses at the rule are allowed (i.e. it's not possible to ask Yes/No-questions about what the rule is; clues about the rule should instead be gathered by posing normal "rule-answered" questions in some thoughtful way.) My comments that are not according to the rule will be in bold and italics (like this long comment which you just read). What's a rulebreaker? See above. Wink wink nod nod. Somnambulate? Ohoy! Ruminate? Boredom. Stridulate? Conflagrationary Can you answer my question? Do you expect an answer? Can you answer a question asking you a question about whether or not this is a rulebreaker? glaukoma What would you reply with if I asked you a question? I would say: moot! Is there a pattern? Yes, there is a pattern. Does it involve letters, numbers, and other characters? Now, we should try not to get all to involved here. Could every question be answered using a QWERTY keyboard and a four-dimensional mouse? Perhaps if the mouse were a citizen of the United Kingdom. |
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 70 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 7:48 am: |      |
As an aside: This query does not have to do with solving your puzzle. I am fairly new to these lateral puzzles and I honestly would like to know what the term "rulebreaker" means. Then I guess you don't fancy this answer, which is according to the rule? I've answered your question above. But since your question wasn't in italics I've answered it according to the rule too, blatantly disregarding your talk about your honest intentions. ;) By the way: this rulebreaker is pretty lame and not especially lateral. You might consider spending your energy on asking some questions on my other puzzle instead ("The Profundities of a Fuzzy Weltanschauung") It's not a rulebreaker but just a normal puzzle. Warning: it has homosexuals in it. (But no midgets, unfortunately!) |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa
Post Number: 606 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 2:16 am: |      |
The? Quick? Brown? Fox? Jumps? Over? The? Lazy? Dog? The quick? The quick brown? The quick brown fox? The quick brown fox jumps? The quick brown fox jumps over? The quick brown fox jumps over the? The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy? The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog? the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog? THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG? The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog! Quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog? Brown fox jumps over the lazy dog? Fox jumps over the lazy dog? Jumps over the lazy dog? Over the lazy dog? The lazy dog? Lazy Dog? Dog? Jumps the quick brown fox over the lazy dog? Over the lazy dog jumps the quick brown fox? Did the quick brown fox jump over the lazy dog? Is the quick brown fox jumping over the lazy dog? Will the quick brown fox jump over the lazy dog? Do you enjoy to baste your chicken? I love A1 Steaksauce. Eggs are incredible and edible. John ate something? I think it was pie? But I forgot? Donde estan los alumnos de la escuela? A? B? C? a? b? c? 1? 2? 3? !@#$%^&*()? QWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNM1234567890!@#$%^&*()-_=+{};:'",<.>/? But, soft! What light through yonder window breaks? It is the east, and Juliet is the sun! |
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 73 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 6:53 am: |      |
The? The. Quick? Schell Brown? Orange. Fox? Dragon. Jumps? How far can he go? Over? Jumps The? it Lazy? Kazaa Dog? Where is my cow? The quick? The quick murderer. The quick brown? The quick brown koala. The quick brown fox? That's me! The quick brown fox jumps? That's bad... The quick brown fox jumps over? the lazy... The quick brown fox jumps over the? The oppossum??? The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy? Groovy! The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog? Hear, hear! the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog? No, in fact it jumps over a banana. THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPS OVER THE LAZY DOG? You don't have to yell it! The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog! Yes, and then? Quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog? The! Brown fox jumps over the lazy dog? I wonder whether your questions are completely random... Fox jumps over the lazy dog? I think I've heard it before... Jumps over the lazy dog? Cool! Over the lazy dog? The dog doesn't even care! The lazy dog? Are you sure it's not a baboon? Lazy Dog? Hello? Dog? I know: each time, one word disappears! Jumps the quick brown fox over the lazy dog? No, it doesn't! Over the lazy dog jumps the quick brown fox? Anyone for pizza? Did the quick brown fox jump over the lazy dog? mieow... Is the quick brown fox jumping over the lazy dog? Pretty clever... Will the quick brown fox jump over the lazy dog? Perhaps in Rwanda. Do you enjoy to baste your chicken? That question is so lame. I love A1 Steaksauce. Oh my God!!!!!!!! Eggs are incredible and edible. Yummy! John ate something? So did Pam. I think it was pie? You remember correctly. But I forgot? No, you did in fact remember. Donde estan los alumnos de la escuela? Estan quando las palavras ut de la mortando funebra. A? A is great! B? B is fun! C? Can't you C -- it's about you and me? a? a real human adult male? Yes I am! b? To whee! Or not to whee! c? c is in fact pretty dull. 1? One! 2? Ten! 3? Two! !@#$%^&*()? Those are all really useful signs. QWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNM1234567890!@#$%^&*()-_=+{};:'",<.>/? It's some kind of alphabet!!! But, soft! Doctapeppa What light through yonder window breaks? Will you still love me tomorrow? It is the east, and Juliet is the sun! That's one great metaphor! |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 408 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 12:24 am: |      |
That was FUNNY a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z? |
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 101 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 5:05 pm: |      |
a Geneva b Toulouse c Madrid d Sicily e Amsterdam f Tuscany g Dover h Bulgaria i Frankfurt j Libanon k Prague l Nottingham m France n Israel o Rome p Copenhagen q Trinidad & Tobago r Brussels s Would you like to join me on a trip to the 2007 International Hedgehog Hunting Summit? t Jamaica u Moscow v Denver w Malaga x Laoung Panyiam Tsee y Baghdad z? Italy |
Veejay (Veejay)
New member Username: Veejay
Post Number: 25 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 3:20 pm: |      |
Is the pattern a "no pattern"? |
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 102 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 7:01 pm: |      |
Is the pattern a "no pattern"? No, it's not a "no pattern" pattern, or "empty pattern" or some such. There is a distinct pattern. |
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 103 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 7:11 pm: |      |
HINT and Blooper: Oops... There is an error in a certain place above, but it's sort of too late for me to correct it by now. The fact that it is hard for me to correct the error afterwards could perhaps give you some hint about the nature of the rule. The error would disappear if the question and answer in my post from October 24, 2006 - 7:48 am -- if that question had neither been asked nor answered. |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 419 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 1:46 pm: |      |
The only non geographical place is so far, "s" The rest seem to be random contries and capitals sp? spo? spoi?spoil? |
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 104 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 03, 2006 - 10:14 am: |      |
The only non geographical place is so far, "s" The rest seem to be random contries and capitals Well, so they seem... (the above sentence ("Well, so they seem...") was an answer according to the rule.) sp? spy! spo? spoileeeeeerr! spoi? spoila' spoil? So, you though you could fool me as easy as that... |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 436 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 2:03 pm: |      |
is the reason you did s= non geographal because u cannot find a place that begins with G? |
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 105 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 4:26 pm: |      |
is the reason you did s= non geographal because u cannot find a place that begins with G? No, wrong track. |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 460 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 2:28 pm: |      |
ok... I have no clue lets try this! ab? ac? ad? ae? af? ag? ah? ai? aj? And so forth! |
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 116 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 3:19 pm: |      |
ab? ijklmn ac? zabcde ad? hijklm ae? zabcde af? ghijkl ag? zabcde ah? ijklmn ai? jklmno aj? nopqrs ak? opqrst al? vwxyza am? rstuvw an? mnopqr ao? vwxyza ap? zabcde aq? yzabcd ar? tuvwxy as? hijklm at? tuvwxy au? mnopqr av? vwxyza aw? opqrst ax? And here's an exception for the sake of variation... ay? zabcde az? hijklm ba? Was this of great help to thee??? bb? Does it ring a bell?? bc? This parrot is late! bd? It has passed on! be? No, no, bf? he's, ah...probably just pinin' for the fjords... bg? On the contrary: he's of life bereft! bh? We've got a Koala... bi? All right then, if he's restin', I'll wake him up! 'Ello, Mister Polly Parrot! I've got a lovely fresh cuttle fish for you if you show... bj? The parrot sketch will continue after a short break for the 10 o'clock news and weather. bk? (news) Yada Yada bl? (weather) rain and sunshine bm? No, no.....No, 'e's stunned! bm? Blues stun easily... bn? If I hadn't nailed that bird down, it would have nuzzled up to those bars, bent 'em apart with its beak, and VOOM! bq? 'E's not pinin'! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! br? 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! bs? As I said, we've got a koala... bt? WELL IT'S HARDLY A BLOODY REPLACEMENT, IS IT?!!???!!? bu? 'E's run down the curtain! bv? This parrot is no more! bw? VOOM... VOOM... by? He has ceased to be! bz? 'E's shuffled off 'is mortal coil! ca? 'E's joined the bleedin' choir invisibile! cb? Well, I'd better replace it, then. cc? So...? cd? Sorry squire, I've had a look 'round the back of the shop, and uh, we're right out of parrots. ce? This order of the lines in this sketch appears to be corrupt. cf? Koala........ Is that enough for now or should I continue with cg ... zz too? |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 461 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 4:24 pm: |      |
nah, thats enough! i still can't find a pattern though! |
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 147 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 5:22 pm: |      |
Oh well, since noone else seems to see a pattern either, I'll continue with some more... cg? We'll continue with some Swedish lessons now... ch? Hello! = Bäver! ci? Good morning! = Bäverns kofta! cj? Good evening! = Bäverns sköte! ck? How are you? = Här luktar du, blod? cl? This information is 100% trustworthy! cm? I am fine! = Jag luktar gam! cn? Nice weather! = Gamens hy! co? Nice to see you! = Gamens mat du är! cp? Goodbye! = Man bäva'! cq? How much is... = Här luktar likt... cr? ...a ticket? = i bilverkstan? cs? ...a room? = i skövde? ct? ...a single room? = i skövde centrum cu? ...a double room? = i hålan skövde cv? Is breakfast included? = Luktar frukosten sill? cw? Where is the bathroom? =Varför luktar där we-ce? cx? Thank you! = Du pyton! cy? You're welcome! = Du luktar svinto! cz? Please! = Trams! da? it db? bra dc? show dd? manor de? banana df? bondage dg? forsaked dh? telephony di? phosphatum dj? trustworthy dk? stepdaughter dl? abracadabra dm? government dn? Bulgarian do? flagpole dp? kingdom dq? please dr? skull ds? lame dt? pun du? no |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 472 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 8:53 pm: |      |
are you using certain parts of the jumble to get your rule? |
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 192 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 24, 2006 - 8:33 pm: |      |
are you using certain parts of the jumble to get your rule? By "jumble", do you mean the 'aa', 'ab', 'ac', 'ad' etcetera? I shouldn't really have to answer these kind of questions, but I'll do it anyway: BIG HINT: The answers do not depend on what questions are asked. (Sorry for all your work trying to find out clever questions to ask being in vain). So, the rule guiding the answers must depend on something else instead. What can that be? Remember: I've given another hint above as to the nature of the rule. As a bonus, I'll give you some more answers to empty questions: ? James ? Janet ? Sara ? Woodrow ? Peter ? Cassandra ? Steve ? Hagbard ? Lucy ? Abraham ? Tiffany ? Jennifer ? Jessica ? Juliet ? Slobodan ? George ? William ? Sophie ? Rachel ? Aristotle ? Stephen ? Alphonzo So: how can there be a system in this? |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 481 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 1:11 pm: |      |
a question mark is always a name? are Numbers involved, like in a code? |
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 198 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 26, 2006 - 2:21 pm: |      |
a question mark is always a name? No -- as I said, the questions (including question marks and the like) are irrelevant for the rule. are Numbers involved, like in a code? I'll have to think a bit more about whether I should answer these kinds of questions -- it's a rulebreaker after all. But, on the other hand there is of course no reason for you to ask any further normal questions, so now we'll more or less just have to wait until someone discovers the pattern. Anyway, here are some more answers (tell me if you want more): ? birds ? sport ? panda ? widow ? poker ? fatwa ? sabre ? hated ? silly ? venom ? dizzy ? polar ? extra ? bigot ? women ? spare ? bosom ? share ? level ? melee ? lemon ? motto ? grass ? Borat ? zebra ? I think it's time for an exception now. ? sugar ? manga ? slate ? bipod ? lucky ? denim ? party ? lamer So: how can there be a system in this? |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 486 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Monday, November 27, 2006 - 2:34 pm: |      |
ack! is there anyone else doing thes rulebreakers? I can't get this by myself! |
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 243 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Friday, January 05, 2007 - 8:01 pm: |      |
HINT: The pattern cannot be seen in a single answer. Neither, as you know by now, do answers in any way depend on the questions asked. Instead, the pattern can only be seen in the sequence of several consecutive riddles. That's why I couldn't correct an erratic answer afterwards (see my posts from Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 7:48 am and Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 7:11 pm) |
Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer
Post Number: 100 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, January 07, 2007 - 6:16 pm: |      |
I don't know how you do it, Sherlock! |
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 247 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 08, 2007 - 6:09 am: |      |
I don't know how you do it, Sherlock! It's rather basic, my cherished puzzler-fella' So I guess the puzzle will be restored, and then I'll post a $poiler shortly afterwards...? |
Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer
Post Number: 119 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Monday, January 08, 2007 - 6:50 am: |      |
Yeah, last letter, down-up and all that. Great work with coming up with good answers, by the way. I understand that it was relly hard to avoid mistakes while still keeping it a mystery |
Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani
Post Number: 251 Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 5:13 pm: |      |
Right. Just to clarify: If you read the last letter of each consecutive answer, you will, repeatedly, get this message: "No stawraedy, my rat Nemele!" which, as I'm sure you all know, is the answer to questions such as "I don't know how you do it, Sherlock!", or "How can there be a system in this?" And that's as much of a SPOILER as you will get. FAQ: What's a "stawraedy"? It's what you get when you put an ydearwats upside down. (Snoozer) I understand that it was really hard to avoid mistakes while still keeping it a mystery Yeah, there are only so many common english words ending in 'a' or 'm'. Aren't I great? |
Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer
Post Number: 167 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 7:08 pm: |      |
Brilliant! :-) |
Beccaann (Beccaann)
New member Username: Beccaann
Post Number: 876 Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 8:35 pm: |      |
I'm completely disappointed in myself, since the first thing I did when I first looked at this puzzle was to look at the last letters of each word!! But I never thought of reading bottom to top! Argh! |