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Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 12:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Eric put on a ring, then died.
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Happy new year everyone!!!!!!!!
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Was the ring a noose of rope?
a metal ring?
something else?
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Was the ring a noose of rope?
a metal ring? This
something else?
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Was it a finger ring?
A wedding ring?
Engagement ring?
something else?
Was he murdered?
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Was it a finger ring? Yes
A wedding ring?
Engagement ring?
something else? All of the above except finger ring ... irr
Was he murdered? Yes
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Relevant whose ring it was?
Was he murdered by:
A stranger?
His wife / lover?
His ex wife?
A family member?
A friend?
A political enemy of some kind?
A contract killer?
Did putting the ring on identify him as a the intended victim?
Did it make someone else angry?
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Relevant whose ring it was? No
Was he murdered by:
A stranger? This
His wife / lover?
His ex wife?
A family member?
A friend?
A political enemy of some kind?
A contract killer? None of the rest
Did putting the ring on identify him as a the intended victim? and therefore No
Did it make someone else angry? Yope
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The geographical location relevant?
Type of building relevant?
The occasion / social circumstances relevant?
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The geographical location relevant? Noish
Type of building relevant? FA
The occasion / social circumstances relevant? The occasion is relevant
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So the murder took place outside?
In outer space?
On a vehicle - like a plane / ship etc?
Did it take place in a dream?

Would it help to learn more about Eric?
More about the stranger?
Such as what went through the stranger's mind?
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So the murder took place outside? Yes
In outer space? No
On a vehicle - like a plane / ship etc? Yope
Did it take place in a dream? No

Would it help to learn more about Eric? His actions - yes; himself - no
More about the stranger? "
Such as what went through the stranger's mind? Yes
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Was the ring meant for someone else than Eric?
Was the ring intentionally left for someone to find?
Is the relative position and distance of Eric, the stranger and the ring relevant?
Did anyone else die or just Eric?
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Was the ring meant for someone else than Eric? Irr and FA
Was the ring intentionally left for someone to find? FA
Is the relative position and distance of Eric, the stranger and the ring relevant? No
Did anyone else die or just Eric? Irr
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Is putting on the ring by itself relevent as to why Eric died?
Is it probable that he would be alive if he had just put it in his pocket instead?
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Is putting on the ring by itself relevent as to why Eric died? Not by itself
Is it probable that he would be alive if he had just put it in his pocket instead? Yes; in fact, he would certainly be alive
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Is there a murder weapon involved? Is it the ring?
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is it relevant how much time there is between putting the ring on and him dying? was it seconds? minutes? hours? days? weeks?

did the ring make someone think something about Eric? that he was married? did the ring cause someone to think Eric was someone else? e.g. someone the stranger disliked but didn't know by sight had a similar ring?
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Is there a murder weapon involved? Yes Is it the ring? No

is it relevant how much time there is between putting the ring on and him dying? was it seconds? minutes? hours? days? weeks?
Seconds to minutes, this IS relevant

did the ring make someone think something about Eric? Noish that he was married? No did the ring cause someone to think Eric was someone else? No e.g. someone the stranger disliked but didn't know by sight had a similar ring? No
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had Eric just bought it? was he killed in a jewellery shop? was it a robbery gone bad?
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had Eric just bought it? Irr was he killed in a jewellery shop? No was it a robbery gone bad? No
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Had the ring been in Eric's possession for a some time? Seconds, minutes, hours, days, longer?
Did the ring belong to Eric?
Was the ring attached to anything or part of something else?
Is the normal purpose of this kind of ring to be put on a finger?
Did Eic move, run, jump, fall after putting on the ring?
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Had the ring been in Eric's possession for a some time? Seconds, minutes, hours, days, longer? Irr
Did the ring belong to Eric? Irr
Was the ring attached to anything or part of something else? No
Is the normal purpose of this kind of ring to be put on a finger? Yes
Did Eric move, run, jump, fall after putting on the ring? Yope to move
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Was the murderer:
a crook?
an agent of some sort?

Was the ring special in any way?
Was it very valuable?

Did the murderer think the ring was valuable?
Did the murderer think Eric had comitted a crime / killed someone / stolen something?

Did the murderer mistake the ring or the action of putting the ring on as something else?
Did the murderer see Eric put the ring on?
Did the murderer misinterpret what he saw?

Did the ring act as a signal in any way?

Was the ring bugged?
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Did Eric put the ring on the finger? Was it easy to put it on?
If yes, is it relevant to find out more about the finger?
Did he try to take off the ring once it was put on? If yes, did he succeed? did it come off easily?
Did it stay on until he died? Was it taken off after his death?
Is it relevant to find out which murder weapon was used?
After the ring was put on, was the reason for Eric's death:
- intentional
- accidental
Does the stranger know about the ring before Eric puts it on?
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Was the murderer:
a crook? No
an agent of some sort? No

Was the ring special in any way? No
Was it very valuable? Irr

Did the murderer think the ring was valuable? Irr
Did the murderer think Eric had comitted a crime / killed someone / stolen something? None

Did the murderer mistake the ring or the action of putting the ring on as something else? Yes
Did the murderer see Eric put the ring on? Yes
Did the murderer misinterpret what he saw? Yes

Did the ring act as a signal in any way? No

Was the ring bugged? No

Did Eric put the ring on the finger? Yes Was it easy to put it on? Irr
If yes, is it relevant to find out more about the finger? No
Did he try to take off the ring once it was put on? No If yes, did he succeed? did it come off easily?
Did it stay on until he died? Yes Was it taken off after his death? Irr
Is it relevant to find out which murder weapon was used? Yes
After the ring was put on, was the reason for Eric's death:
- intentional Intentional
- accidental
Does the stranger know about the ring before Eric puts it on? No
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Is the stranger acting rationally? I mean, is he sane?
Is putting on the ring a signal for something to happen? Something that would harm others? The stranger?
Was it a means of identification?
Was the stranger looking for someone who would put a ring on? anything else with a similar movement?
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Was the murder weapon:
- a shooting weapon
- a stabbing weapon
- a blunt weapon
- a rope
- chemicals
- exploding
- something not typically associated with a murder weapon
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Is the stranger acting rationally? No I mean, is he sane? Who knows?
Is putting on the ring a signal for something to happen? Something that would harm others? The stranger? No to all
Was it a means of identification? No
Was the stranger looking for someone who would put a ring on? No anything else with a similar movement? No

Was the murder weapon:
- a shooting weapon
- a stabbing weapon
- a blunt weapon
- a rope
- chemicals
- exploding
- something not typically associated with a murder weapon This
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Is any other action by Eric relevant? Something he did just before or after putting the ring on?
Did Eric say anything? Did he express an emotion?
Did the stranger say anything?
Is the stranger acting because of what happened just then and there?
Is he acting out of anger? fear?
Did he carry the murder weapon? Did he use whatever was within reach? Did he choose the murder weapon more carefully?
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Is any other action by Eric relevant? Something he did just before or after putting the ring on? No
Did Eric say anything? Did he express an emotion? No; no
Did the stranger say anything? Irr
Is the stranger acting because of what happened just then and there? Yes
Is he acting out of anger? anger fear?
Did he carry the murder weapon? Yope Did he use whatever was within reach? Yes Did he choose the murder weapon more carefully? No
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Another case of OCD? ;-)
The misinterpered action, did it have anything to do with putting the hands together? Touching ones fingers?
Anything to do with (in the stranger's eyes) a for the occasion inappropriate gesture?
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Another case of OCD? ;-) Haha no
The misinterpered action, did it have anything to do with putting the hands together? Touching ones fingers? None
Anything to do with (in the stranger's eyes) a for the occasion inappropriate gesture? Yes
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I am really really sorry for asking this but... Does it matter which finger he puts the ring on? (If you put it on the wrong finger in a special way it could look really naughty... or so I have been told...)
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I am really really sorry for asking this but... Does it matter which finger he puts the ring on? (If you put it on the wrong finger in a special way it could look really naughty... or so I have been told...)
No, don't be ... YES!!! But we're not done yet ...
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Is the location murder weapon combination in the lines of:
- Church - religious item
- Bar - bottle
- Golf club - golf club
Was the gesture directed towards the stranger or the stranger's girlfriend/wife?
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Is the location murder weapon combination in the lines of:
- Church - religious item
- Bar - bottle
- Golf club - golf club None
Was the gesture directed towards the stranger or the stranger's girlfriend/wife? Neither
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did the stranger think it was directed towards himself? towards someone he knew? or just that it was a general rude gesture? did he mean to kill him? or just hurt him?

was he hit with something? stabbed with something?

I think it was said earlier the murder was outside, was it on a road? in a park? in a car? road rage incident?
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Was the occasion such that most people would have found the gesture offensive?
Do you have to be involved in the occasion in a special way to find the gesture offensive?
Was the occasion special for the stranger? Was it like a once in a lifetime opportunity for him?
Did the gesture spoil an important part of the occasion for the stranger?
Did the stranger throw something at Eric? Was the object solid? Did it break?
You answered Yope to vehicle before. Was Eric run over by the stranger's car?
Are there any cultural or religious aspects behind the stranger's reaction?
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SPOILER: Eric put on his ring in his car, but to another driver, it looked as if he was flipping the bird, so he was run off the road in road rage.

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