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Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 12:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Welcome home!

I guess that this is a common expression but I am looking for someone particular who said this in a particular situation.
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Is it said to one person? A group of people at the same time? A ship or an airplane arriving? An object?
Is it said in a heartly way? cynical way? professional way?
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Speaker: human? adult? male?
The welcomed: human? adult? male?
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Snoozer:
Is it said to one person? this
A group of people at the same time? A ship or an airplane arriving? An object? no to the rest
Is it said in a heartly way? cynical way? professional way? a bit of each

Jumpingjack:
Speaker: human? adult? male? yes, yes, yes
The welcomed: human? adult? male? yes, yes, yes
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Relation between the two: family? friends? lovers? colleagues? strangers?
Home: the man's country? his house? his workplace? place where his family is? or where people matter to him?
Is the speaker "home" as well? Has he always been "home"?

Oh by the way, can you give them names please? :-)
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Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 8:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

does he feel "at home" with the greeting? the contrary?
Has he ever been here before? Is it going to his home for some time?
Tobasi (Tobasi)
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Posted on Friday, January 12, 2007 - 10:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jumpingjack:
Relation between the two: family? friends? lovers? colleagues? this strangers?
Home: the man's country? his house? his workplace? place where his family is? or where people matter to him? none of these
Is the speaker "home" as well? yesish
Has he always been "home"? yesish

Oh by the way, can you give them names please? :-)
Ok, let's call the speaker Joe and the welcomed Vincent.

Snoozer:
does he feel "at home" with the greeting? possibly the contrary? no
Has he ever been here before? yes
Is it going to his home for some time? Could you please rephrase, if the question is: 'Is HE GOING TO STAY AT home for some time?' the answer is noish
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Thanks for the names, now it feels all nice and homely!

Have Vincent and Joe not seen each other (in the flesh) for a while? If so, have they still kept in contact? Has Vincent been somewhere else far away for a time? How long has Vincent been away from "home"--a day? a few days? a week? a few weeks? months? a few years? more than 10 years?

Does "home" refer to a physical place at all? Or is it more of a situation that Vincent frequently used to find himself in?
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Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 10:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for the names, now it feels all nice and homely!
It is fine if you experience the warmness of 'welcome home' as well. Solving puzzles is a bit like coming home from a strange place...

Have Vincent and Joe not seen each other (in the flesh) for a while?
yes, they have seen each other
If so, have they still kept in contact?
Has Vincent been somewhere else far away for a time? no
How long has Vincent been away from "home"--a day? a few days? a week? a few weeks? months? a few years? more than 10 years? less than a day

Does "home" refer to a physical place at all? no
Or is it more of a situation that Vincent frequently used to find himself in? yesish
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Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 10:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is their occupation relevant?
Has Vincent been on lunch break? Some other kind of break, and so away from the main action of his job? Has he been talking to the boss? In the toilet? Meeting someone? Visiting the doctor?
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Is their occupation relevant? yes
Has Vincent been on lunch break? no
Some other kind of break, and so away from the main action of his job? noish to the first part, yes to the second
Has he been talking to the boss? no or irrel
In the toilet? no
Meeting someone? no
Visiting the doctor? no
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Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 10:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The indispensble occupation list!
artistic/musical/writer?
Banking/financial/real estate?
Clerical/Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware?
Construction / Craftsman?
Education / Academic Research?
Entertainment / Media?
Executive / Management?
Hospitality / Travel?
Legal Services?
Manufacturing / Distributions?
Medical / Health Services?
Politics / Government / Military?
Sales / Marketing?
Technical / Science / Engineering?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation?
Food Service?
Sports?
Entertainment?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion?

So has he been away from "home" for a few hours? just an hour? a few minutes?
Was he doing something that was also part of his job?
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Joe's occupation: musical, artistic, entertainment, writer
Vincent's occupation: musical, artistic, entertainment


So has he been away from "home" for a few hours? just an hour? a few minutes? this
Was he doing something that was also part of his job? yes
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Are they performers? Are they from the same band?
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Are they performers? Joe: yope, Vincent: yes
Are they from the same band? yesish
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Does Joe write the songs? And Vincent then performs them?
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Does Joe write the songs? yesish
And Vincent then performs them? yes
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Does Joe write the lyrics? Or the music? Or both?
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Does Joe write the lyrics? FA Or the music? yes Or both?
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The FA: There are no lyrics? So Joe is the composer and Vincent plays an instrument? Do we need to find out what instrument? Does Vincent play solo? Or does he play in a band?
"Home": back on stage?
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The FA: There are no lyrics? correct, there are no lyrics
So Joe is the composer and Vincent plays an instrument? yes
Do we need to find out what instrument? yes
Does Vincent play solo? yope
Or does he play in a band? yesish
"Home": back on stage? no
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Which family does it come from: Strings? Brass? Woodwind? Percussion? Keyboards?

Piano? Clarinet? Horn? Trumpet? Guitar? Trombone? Flute? Viola? Violin? Cello? Double bass? Xylophone? Drum? Saxophone? Bassoon? Harp? Piccolo? Tuba? Oboe?
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Cello (thus strings)
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Is the welcome home both for Vincent and the Cello?
Is he returning the cello back where it belongs?
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Is the welcome home both for Vincent and the Cello? more for Vincent
Is he returning the cello back where it belongs? no
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Is the specific instrument relevant? Or at least one of its traits?
Is there a specific song relevant? Could this work with any music genre?
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Is the specific instrument relevant? Or at least one of its traits?
Is there a specific song relevant? Could this work with any music genre?
The puzzle could work with other instruments, musical genres or pieces of music. Nevertheless, here the instrument is the cello and the puzzle is about a specific piece of music of a specific genre which would be helpful to find out.
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Is this happening in a town or a region where this genre has its roots?
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Is this happening in a town or a region where this genre has its roots? noish
It will be easier to find out the genre than the place (which is not really relevant).
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Classical? Jazz? Blues? Tango? Country? Folkmusic? R&B? Reggae? Ska? Gospel? Pop? Rock?
Did he play another genre before returning? If so, was it any from the list above?
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Classical? this Jazz? Blues? Tango? Country? Folkmusic? R&B? Reggae? Ska? Gospel? Pop? Rock?
Did he play another genre before returning? If so, was it any from the list above? This is on the right track. Before returning he played classical music as well, but in a more modern way.
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does "in a modern way" refer to a classical piece performed in a modern variation, or classical music from a different time period?
Is this happening in modern time or during the time of classical music?
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does "in a modern way" refer to a classical piece performed in a modern variation no,
or classical music from a different time period? yesish
Is this happening in modern time no
or during the time of classical music? yes
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When Joe says "Welcome home" to Vincent, are they in a studio? on stage? just practising somewhere?
So he was playing a classical piece as he always does, then suddenly plays the more modernish classical music for a few minutes, before reverting back to his original style, prompting Joe to "welcome" him back "home'?
Does Vincent do this of his own free will? Is he requested to do so by his audience? Is he experimenting with different styles?
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Is anyone of these composers involved: Haydn, Bach, Handel, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Chopin?
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Jackie:
When Joe says "Welcome home" to Vincent, are they in a studio? on stage? this just practising somewhere?
So he was playing a classical piece as he always does, then suddenly plays the more modernish classical music for a few minutes, before reverting back to his original style, prompting Joe to "welcome" him back "home'? yes, more or less
Does Vincent do this of his own free will? yes
Is he requested to do so by his audience? no
Is he experimenting with different styles? yes

Matthias:
Is anyone of these composers involved: Haydn this one, Bach, Handel, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Chopin?

This is close enough for the

----------------SPOILER----------------

The puzzle is based on the following anecdote. Joseph Haydn (Joe) was conducting one of his cello concertos. Apparently, the solo cellist (Vincent) wanted to aggrandise himself playing his own cadence (the solo closing part). This one took its long adventurous way through all of the keys and it went far off the musical theme of the movement. Eventually, he found his way back and finished on a trill (as often in concertos). Before signalising the orchestra to join in, Haydn shouted 'welcome home' at the solo cellist.

Thank you for playing, see you soon on the forum.
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Posted on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 11:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nice one!
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I thought it was going to be ET's mother addressing her son on his return.
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Posted on Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 2:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nice puzzle! Thanks, Tobias!

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