| Author | Message | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2043 Registered: 8-2001 |
Why did The Kittridge Daily News suddenly stop printing engagement announcements on its Society page? There was still plenty of room. . . | ||
| Everything (Everything)
New member Username: Everything Post Number: 47 Registered: 12-2006 |
Were there no more engagements? Assuming my wild guess didn't work...Did they still print information about births, deaths, etc? Did they still print information about the actual marriages? Was this at the suggestion of the editor? Another employee? Readers? Or did they continue printing them on a different page? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2045 Registered: 8-2001 |
Everything (Everything) New member Username: Everything Post Number: 47 Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 4:05 pm: Were there no more engagements?no Assuming my wild guess didn't work...Did they still print information about births, deaths, etc?yes Did they still print information about the actual marriages? yes Was this at the suggestion of the editor? irrel Another employee? dittoReaders? ditto Or did they continue printing them on a different page? no | ||
| Bentarm (Bentarm)
New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 974 Registered: 6-2001 |
Is it relevant where Kittridge is? US? specific state? Is it relevant when this happened? 21st century? 20th? 19th? earlier (did they have newspapers earlier than that?) Did the law change? relevant? Are gay marriages relevant? Is there any particular engagement that they had printed at some point in the past which is relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2051 Registered: 8-2001 |
Bentarm (Bentarm) New member Username: Bentarm Post Number: 974 Registered: 6-2001 Posted on Sunday, January 14, 2007 - 1:53 am: Is it relevant where Kittridge is? yes US? possibly specific state? no Is it relevant when this happened? yes 21st century? possibly 20th? possibly 19th? earlier no(did they have newspapers earlier than that?) I think so. Like Sam Cooke, I don't know much about history, but I think I recall something about John Peter Zenger & the (American) Revolutionary period Did the law change?no relevant? yes Are gay marriages relevant? yes Is there any particular engagement that they had printed at some point in the past which is relevant? no | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 238 Registered: 1-2007 |
was this a decision made by the newspaper? did someone else force them to stop or censor them? were they all real engagements happening between two persons? more than two? did they only involve adults? did they all happen in or around Kittridge? did other newspapers in or around Kittridge continue to publish engagements? would you find the same engagements published in other newpapers? Concerning old newspapers, there is a newspaper called "Post och inrikes tidningar" (Swedish) that has been published since 1645. | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 101 Registered: 9-2003 |
is this just a word thing? did they stop printing engagement notices, but started printing a smiliar thing with a different title? | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 392 Registered: 6-2003 |
Are (were) they legally required to print engagement announcements? (as to prevent bad guys from promising marriage to more than one poor country girl) Or, the other way round, became it forbidden to print these announcements? Do (did) they get the information about engagements from the engaged couple? from their friends or relatives? from some sort of official institution? Was it the editor's own decision to stop printing these announcements? Do they still get requests to print engagement announcements? Did they once mess up an annoucement? so people Was there a significant portion of engagement announcements published without knowledge of the engaged couple? without their permission? or false announcements? (submitted to the newspaper as a prank, maybe) Was the reason simply to protect the engaged couples privacy? Were there some restrictions to form and layout of the engagement announcement? Did they find that an announcement would not look decent in case of a same-sex engagement, so they decided to stop it at all? any anti-discrimination law relevant? with the effect that if they print announcements for heterosexual engagements they also will have to print them for gay engagements? | ||
| Ostap (Ostap)
New member Username: Ostap Post Number: 43 Registered: 6-2005 |
Is gay marriage possible in Kittridge? gay engagements? Did the fact that the law did not change create a problem? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2056 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sundowner (Sundowner) New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 392 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 9:45 am: Are (were) they legally required to print engagement announcements? no (as to prevent bad guys from promising marriage to more than one poor country girl) Or, the other way round, became it forbidden to print these announcements? no Do (did) they get the information about engagements from the engaged couple? irrel from their friends or relatives? irrelfrom some sort of official institution? irrel Was it the editor's own decision to stop printing these announcements? yes Do they still get requests to print engagement announcements? yes Did they once mess up an annoucement? no so people Was there a significant portion of engagement announcements published without knowledge of the engaged couple? no without their permission? no or false announcements? no (submitted to the newspaper as a prank, maybe) Was the reason simply to protect the engaged couples privacy? no Were there some restrictions to form and layout of the engagement announcement? no Did they find that an announcement would not look decent in case of a same-sex engagement, so they decided to stop it at all? no any anti-discrimination law relevant? no with the effect that if they print announcements for heterosexual engagements they also will have to print them for gay engagements? no Ostap (Ostap) New member Username: Ostap Post Number: 43 Registered: 6-2005 Posted on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 9:48 am: Is gay marriage possible in Kittridge? no gay engagements? no Did the fact that the law did not change create a problem? yesish | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 109 Registered: 9-2003 |
you left out Snoozers and my questions.. | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2058 Registered: 8-2001 |
Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 238 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 12:24 am: was this a decision made by the newspaper? yes did someone else force them to stop or censor them no. America has plenty of flaws, but newspaper censorship does not seem to be among them were they all real engagements happening between two persons? yes more than two? no did they only involve adults? yes--or at least people old enough to marry in that state did they all happen in or around Kittridge? yes---or in whatever area for which they prevously published engagements} did other newspapers in or around Kittridge continue to publish engagements? irrel would you find the same engagements published in other newpapers? ditto Concerning old newspapers, there is a newspaper called "Post och inrikes tidningar" (Swedish) that has been published since 1645. Wheeeeeee ~damia~ (~damia~) New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 101 Registered: 9-2003 Posted on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 2:49 pm: is this just a word thing? no did they stop printing engagement notices, but started printing a smiliar thing with a different title? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2059 Registered: 8-2001 |
~damia~ (~damia~) New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 109 Registered: 9-2003 Posted on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 10:12 am: you left out Snoozers and my questions.. Rectified, with my apologies | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 264 Registered: 1-2007 |
No problemo Is the newspaper protesting against something? Did people stop sending in engagement announcements to this newspaper? Did the newspaper change publisher? editor? Did this upset the people in the town? Were they happy? Did the newspaper explain why they had stopped doing it? | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 717 Registered: 7-2001 |
did they stop printing these announcements to protect themselves from legal action? were they worried that, if gay couples announced their engagements in the paper then the paper would be accused of a crime? of helping a crime? were they trying to defend gay couples? defend themselves? defend their community? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2061 Registered: 8-2001 |
Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 264 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 9:50 pm: No problemo Is the newspaper protesting against something? no Did people stop sending in engagement announcements to this newspaper? no Did the newspaper change publisher? no editor? no Did this upset the people in the town? possibly Were they happy? possibly Did the newspaper explain why they had stopped doing it? possibly Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 717 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Friday, January 19, 2007 - 3:39 pm: did they stop printing these announcements to protect themselves from legal action? no were they worried that, if gay couples announced their engagements in the paper then the paper would be accused of a crime? no of helping a crime? no were they trying to defend gay couples? yope defend themselves? possibly defend their community? no | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 4 Registered: 1-2007 |
Was the editor himself/herself about to be engaged to a person of the same sex? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2081 Registered: 8-2001 |
Foulglory (Foulglory) New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 4 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 10:36 pm: Was the editor himself/herself about to be engaged to a person of the same sex? irrel | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 316 Registered: 1-2007 |
Does it matter if Kittridge is a small or big town? Is there a high degree of social control? Did anything happen to any gay couples before this happened, such as protests, open hostility, murder, harassement? If so, is it possible that this will happen to one or more gay couple that are announcing their engagements in this paper? Did it already happen? Would stopping the announcements of gay engagements be considered a political stand of the newspaper or the editor? Is the editor trying to avoid politics by stopping the announcements all together? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 2083 Registered: 8-2001 |
Snoozer (Snoozer) New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 316 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 10:38 am: Does it matter if Kittridge is a small or big town? no Is there a high degree of social control? irrel Did anything happen to any gay couples before this happened, such as protests, open hostility, murder, harassement?irrel, except for the usual background discrimination If so, is it possible that this will happen to one or more gay couple that are announcing their engagements in this paper? irrel Did it already happen? irrel Would stopping the announcements of gay engagements be considered a political stand of the newspaper or the editor? possibly but not necessarily Is the editor trying to avoid politics by stopping the announcements all together?yesish Well, I think I'm going to declare a ********* SPOILER ************ The New York Times supposedly stopped printing engagement announcements in order to dodge the issue of whether to print announcements of gay commitment ceremonies. They decided they would print ONLY marriage announcements. Eventually, gays were able to marry in some places, such as Canada & the state of Massachusetts. The NYT printed those wedding announcements & started printing announcements of gay commitment ceremonies (even in the absence of a legal marriage) as well. But they never went back to printing engagement announcements. Sorry the puzzle was so easy. A new, harder one awaits you. Guess where!! | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 319 Registered: 1-2007 |
Well, I am still fairly new on this forum so if this one is considered easy I wonder what the difficult ones look like... gulp... Thanks, it was entertaining! |
