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Wizardofnz (Wizardofnz)
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Why did a man legally change his name to 'Yorkshire Bastards'?
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Well, i don't!
Was he a criminal? did he like Yorkshire or bastards? Man: H?a?m?
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Was he from Yorkshire? or was he from a rival county such as Lancashire? was this sports related? Was the name change a form of protest? was he objecting to a local council decision e.g. refused planning permission?
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Was this supposed to insult someone? Initials relevant? Lenght relevant?
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Relevant that his name would be printed or written somewhere?
Did he want to insult somebody by signing a document?
Was he a soccer player? (and his name was to be printed on his jersey?)
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Did he lose a bet? Was he trying to prove a point?
Does he have a tattoo?
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Crazy pal pig

Well, i don't! Ah, jolly good.
Was he a criminal? no did he like Yorkshire or bastards? in general, irrelevant Man: H?a?m? yes

Peter 365

Was he from Yorkshire? yes or was he from a rival county such as Lancashire? no was this sports related? no Was the name change a form of protest? no was he objecting to a local council decision e.g. refused planning permission? no

Judgedeadd

Was this supposed to insult someone? yes Initials relevant? no Lenght relevant? yes

Sundowner

Relevant that his name would be printed or written somewhere? yes
Did he want to insult somebody by signing a document? no
Was he a soccer player? (and his name was to be printed on his jersey?) no

Strong placebo

Did he lose a bet? no Was he trying to prove a point? no
Does he have a tattoo? irrelevant
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I presume it was supposed to insult someone in Yorkshire? was the man originally from Yorkshire?

did he do it to insult someone famous? someone he had met?

did he want it to be on his passport? driving license? some other form?
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Damia

I presume it was supposed to insult someone in Yorkshire? yes was the man originally from Yorkshire? yes

did he do it to insult someone famous? no someone he had met? yes

did he want it to be on his passport? no driving license? no some other form? yes
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Could he make the name shorter? longer? Was the name supposed to be too long for something?
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did he do it to insult someone he met on a regular basis? someone who needed to ask him his name on a regular basis? would he only fill out this form with the name once?

is the form something to do with money? some sort of application form? job application?
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Judge Deadd

Could he make the name shorter? longer? he could, but that would change and almost certainly weaken th eeffect Was the name supposed to be too long for something? no

Damia

did he do it to insult someone he met on a regular basis? no someone who needed to ask him his name on a regular basis? no would he only fill out this form with the name once? yes

is the form something to do with money? yes some sort of application form? at some point in this puzzle, an application form is relevant job application? no
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Loan Application? Grant Application? Some sort of Vehicle Licence Application form? Permission to stage an event of some description?

A wild guess! Was he trying to sell a TV show that he himself stars in and Yorkshire TV (if there's such a thing) rejected it.
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Is it relevant that "Yorkshire Bastards" contains 18 characters, including spaces (a wild guess, with Tattersall's rules of naming racehorses in mind)?

Any of the following relevant:

Yorkshire Water?
Yorkshire Bank?
Yorkshire County Cricket Club?

(Btw Peter: Yorkshire TV most certainly exists. I live there and watch it most evenings. You're not missing much. :-))
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More of a Corry fan myself!! Do Yorkshire TV make Emerdale??

Anyway back to the puzzle
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Did the form have a specific amount of spaces to enter one's name? Was his original name too long or short to fit?
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did he do this as a joke and they people that are hiring told him that its against the law to do that so he legally changed his name to yorkshire bastards in order to avoid jail time?
Also is this having to do with soccer?
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nevermind, i figured it out already, but i won't ruin it
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Loan Application? no Grant Application? no Some sort of Vehicle Licence Application form? no Permission to stage an event of some description? no

A wild guess! Was he trying to sell a TV show that he himself stars in and Yorkshire TV (if there's such a thing) rejected it. incorrect, but lateral

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Is it relevant that "Yorkshire Bastards" contains 18 characters, including spaces (a wild guess, with Tattersall's rules of naming racehorses in mind)? no :P

Any of the following relevant:

Yorkshire Water?
Yorkshire Bank? <b><-->
Yorkshire County Cricket Club?

(Btw Peter: Yorkshire TV most certainly exists. I live there and watch it most evenings. You're not missing much. )

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More of a Corry fan myself!! Do Yorkshire TV make Emerdale?? irrelevant ;p

Anyway back to the puzzle
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Did the form have a specific amount of spaces to enter one's name? Was his original name too long or short to fit? neither

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did he do this as a joke and they people that are hiring told him that its against the law to do that so he legally changed his name to yorkshire bastards in order to avoid jail time? incorrect
Also is this having to do with soccer? no
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delighted to see this puzzle back

So our hero changed his name to Yorkshire bastards to insult someone correct? was this a group of people? an individual? a company or firm? If a company do they have the name Yorkshire in their title? Did he mean bastards as in illegitimate or just not nice people?

Was he successful in changing his name e.g are his passport, driver's licence & Bank accounts now in the name of Yorkshire Bastards.

i'd love to meet this guy
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delighted to see this puzzle back I'm sure it's delighted to be back

So our hero changed his name to Yorkshire bastards to insult someone correct? correct was this a group of people? yes an individual? a company or firm? yes If a company do they have the name Yorkshire in their title? yes Did he mean bastards as in illegitimate or just not nice people? the latter

Was he successful in changing his name yes e.g are his passport, driver's licence & Bank accounts now in the name of Yorkshire Bastards. I'm not sure about this; suffice to say that, for the duration of the relevant facts in the answer, his name was legally Yorkshire Bastards.

i'd love to meet this guy As would I
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Did he work for that company at the time? had he been working for them previously? did he ever buy one of their products?
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Did he just want to spice things up for when he went to roll call? i.e. Yorkshire Bastards present? To rile people up and stampede the guy who said that?
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Eli

Did he work for that company at the time? no had he been working for them previously? no did he ever buy one of their products? fa

Dlcygnet

Did he just want to spice things up for when he went to roll call? i.e. Yorkshire Bastards present? no To rile people up and stampede the guy who said that? heh, no
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I'm a bit confused about that FA answer. Is it because they do not produce? or sell? anything?
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I'm a bit confused about that FA answer. Is it because they do not produce? or sell? anything? they provide services, rather than goods
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Did he at any stage avail of their services? If so, is this relevant to the puzzle?
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is it aimed at the local police force?newspaper? lawfirm?funeral directer?
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Did they provide financial services? Bank? building society?
Had they cost him money? Refused to give him something to which he thought he was entitled? Caused him inconvenience - on quite a big scale?
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E-li

Did he at any stage avail of their services? yes If so, is this relevant to the puzzle? most definitely

Gapcarp

is it aimed at the local police force?newspaper? lawfirm?funeral directer? none of the aforementioned

Sunshine

Did they provide financial services? yes Bank? yes building society? no
Had they cost him money? yes Refused to give him something to which he thought he was entitled? <b>no<b/> Caused him inconvenience yes - on quite a big scale? no

Good questions, Sunshine
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Is it relevant what he lost money on?
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is he applying for a loan? a checking account?
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Eli

Is it relevant what he lost money on? yes

Gapcarp

is he applying for a loan? a checking account? neither
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Was his plan that the Bank would have to write to him and apologise for an error and be forced to address the letter to Mr Yorkshire Bastards. Was he overcharged for a service? Did he lose money on an investment product? did he buy shares in the bank and they reduced in value? Did he intend to remain a customer of the bank?
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Did he invest in a fund? pension? did he take out a mortgage there? if so, did he pay it off too early? or did he have to sell the house?

Just to clarify regarding losing money. Did he actually lose real money, as in xxxx dollars/euro/pounds that he had at one stage now is gone? Or in the sense that he could have gained money if bank had given him other advice, for instance not telling him that another type of account would give him higher interest?
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Peter365

Was his plan that the Bank would have to write to him yesish and apologise for an error no and be forced to address the letter to Mr Yorkshire Bastards. yes, but there's more Was he overcharged for a service? yes Did he lose money on an investment product? no did he buy shares in the bank and they reduced in value? no Did he intend to remain a customer of the bank? certainly not

Well done; good thinking

Eli

Did he invest in a fund? pension? did he take out a mortgage there? if so, did he pay it off too early? or did he have to sell the house? none of the above

Just to clarify regarding losing money. Did he actually lose real money, as in xxxx dollars/euro/pounds that he had at one stage now is gone? Or in the sense that he could have gained money if bank had given him other advice, for instance not telling him that another type of account would give him higher interest? the former
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Aha. So was he overcharged for a service changed his name to Yorkshire Bastards and requested that they close his account thus making the Bank send him a cheque made out to his new name?
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Aha. So was he overcharged for a service changed his name to Yorkshire Bastards and requested that they close his account thus making the Bank send him a cheque made out to his new name? Correct!

There's slightly more to the puzzle, in the vein of his name being more offensive to the bank specifically than just 'Yorkshire bastards', which could refer to a number of people.
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There's slightly more to the puzzle, in the vein of his name being more offensive to the bank specifically than just 'Yorkshire bastards', which could refer to a number of people.

There is indeed, but you may unwittingly have put people off the scent by this reply:

Could he make the name shorter? longer? he could, but that would change and almost certainly weaken the effect

which to me sounds as if he did not make the name longer than "Yorkshire Bastards". This is not the case.
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Were his middle names Bank Employees Are?
Was his loss connected to an overdraft? a direct debit/standing order? a credit card payment? something which should have come into his account and didn't? should have stayed in his account but was taken out?
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Point well made, Woubit. A classic case of not thinking from the puzzlers' perspective. I apologise and withdraw

Sunshine

Were his middle names Bank Employees Are? essentially, yes

Was his loss connected to an overdraft? yes

* SPOILER *

After being charged 20 pounds for a 10 pounds overdraft, 30 year old Michael Howard of Leeds changed his name by deed poll to 'Yorkshire Bank Plc are Fascist Bastards.' The Bank has now asked him to close his account, and Mr Bastards has asked them to repay the 69p balance by cheque, made out in his new name.
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LOL. Hurrah for Mr Howard. MInd you if i shared a name with that Creepy former leader of the conservative party i'd have changed it as well.
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Wow. A 9 month puzzle... with 42 posts. Make that 43.

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