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Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 3:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm sure no-one'll remember me, but I've been off the forum for a couple of years. Here's my big return!

Every day, I'm asked to lie. I don't have to do so, but if I don't then my life may be hugely inconvenienced as a result. And I'm not the only one - I'm sure that hundreds, if not thousands of people are being asked to do so every day too.

But this act is not illegal, or even the slightest bit immoral. Why?


And to answer the inevitable first question - the word 'lie' does not mean 'to be in a horizontal position'.
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 3:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And, having been away for a long time, I'd forgotten about the custom of putting one's username in the title. Oops!
Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 3:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How are you?
~damia~ (~damia~)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 4:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is it a lie about your personal life? health? job? family? hobby?
Strongplacebo (Strongplacebo)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 8:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it something you do without giving it much thought at the time? If I were one of those thousands of people who do it every day, would I be aware that I was lying?

Does it involve filling out a form?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 10:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How are you? very well, thanks [insert smiley image here]

is it a lie about your personal life? yes health? job? family? hobby? no to the rest

Is it something you do without giving it much thought at the time? yep If I were one of those thousands of people who do it every day, would I be aware that I was lying? certainly

Does it involve filling out a form? no
Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 11:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How are you? very well, thanks
Is this the true answer? :-)
Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 2:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How are you?
Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 2:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My browser seems to be doing double-takes. Sorry about that.
Katy (Katy)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 8:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this a little white lie, along the lines of "Does my bum look big in this?" "No, of course not"
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 10:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this a little white lie, yes along the lines of "Does my bum look big in this?" "No, of course not" but nothing like this
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Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 10:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does it matter who asks you? A friend? Family? Boss? Work colleague? Someone you've never met? Someone in a position of authority?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 12:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does it matter who asks you? yes, with slight FA A friend? Family? Boss? Work colleague? none of these Someone you've never met? yes Someone in a position of authority? not really, no
Enjay (Enjay)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 12:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are you asked to lie by a person? Or is it written down? On the internet? In a book? On paper?
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 1:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I remember seeing you in solved puzzles like from 2005-2006
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 1:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are you asked to lie by a person? technically yes, as conditioned by the following answer Or is it written down? yes On the internet? yes In a book? On paper? no to these two
Beccaann (Beccaann)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 2:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are you prompted to enter personal information into the computer ie. your name, address, phone number, e-mail address, or even more specific like ID numbers or credit info, and you lie do avoid an invconvenice like junk mail or identity fraud?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 4:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are you prompted to enter personal information into the computer ie. your name, address, phone number, e-mail address, or even more specific like ID numbers or credit info, and you lie do avoid an invconvenice like junk mail or identity fraud? Very good idea, but no. You're on the right lines with "lying to avoid identity fraud", however.
Enjay (Enjay)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 4:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So is the inconvenience that would happen if you didn't lie identity fraud?
Is it anything to do with this site?
Do you lie about your name? Where you live? Contact information? Bank details?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 6:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So is the inconvenience that would happen if you didn't lie identity fraud? not "would happen", but "may happen" - otherwise, yes
Is it anything to do with this site? no
Do you lie about your name? yes Where you live? Contact information? Bank details? no to rest
Enjay (Enjay)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 6:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it anything like you enter a username instead of your actual name?
Do you type your false name into an internet site? An email? Does the website recommend that you use a false name?
Beccaann (Beccaann)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 6:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do you lie about your name on a particular website? On all sites? In communications with people you meet online?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 7:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it anything like you enter a username instead of your actual name? no
Do you type your false name into an internet site? An email? no to these Does the website recommend that you use a false name? no

Do you lie about your name on a particular website? yes On all sites? no In communications with people you meet online? no
Katy (Katy)
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 7:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do you get asked for your Mother's maiden name for security reasons, but use one you've made up rather than the real one?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 5:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are you really Edward Mason? Or is that your brother's name - so that if you make a twit of yourself here, like we all do from time to time, he gets the blame? :-)
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 5:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Aha - do you put in another name so that someone on the same computer system at school or college doesn't recognise you?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 12:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do you get asked for your Mother's maiden name for security reasons, but use one you've made up rather than the real one? no - remember, the lie is about my name, not my mother's.

Are you really Edward Mason? Yes: I can be too honest for my own good, and so any pratfalls I make are attributable right back to me :-)

Aha - do you put in another name so that someone on the same computer system at school or college doesn't recognise you? on the right lines with the "shared computer system", but not quite there yet.
~damia~ (~damia~)
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Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 8:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

do you put a completely different name? or just alter yours slightly? do you do this on a private computer that no one else uses? or would you? or only on machines at a public place?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 10:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

do you put a completely different name? or just alter yours slightly? no to these - I don't lie when entering my name. The particular website I lie on is immensely relevant - finding out the website may be a great leap to solving the puzzle.

do you do this on a private computer that no one else uses? NO or would you? NO or only on machines at a public place? absolutely
~damia~ (~damia~)
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Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 9:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ok then, is it some kind of games website? a website you post messages to? are emails involved? newsgroups? blogs?
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 10:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Second Life? Something along those lines, which encourages you to use a fake identity?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 6:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

None of these are correct. One good thing: there can't be many types of site left now! :-)
~damia~ (~damia~)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 9:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

does the website sell items? ebay? is it something like friends reunited? is it a website where you just read what has gone on? anything to do with a hobby of yours?
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Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 9:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is chatting involved?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 12:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

does the website sell items? YES ebay? no is it something like friends reunited? is it a website where you just read what has gone on? neither of these anything to do with a hobby of yours? not unless you count 'shopping' as a hobby

Is chatting involved? nope
~damia~ (~damia~)
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Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 2:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is it a well known site? amazon? does it sell books? dvds? general items? groceries?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 7:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is it a well known site? amazon? does it sell books? dvds? general items? groceries? YES it is Amazon! This shouldn't take too long to finish now...
Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
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Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 11:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In one of the other threads you mentioned that you have not learned to drive yet, and there was a second part of that remark ( I have forgotten exactly what ) that indicated you may still be in school. Do you have to lie about your name to use your parents' credit card?
Sorry about poking into your private life, but you are the subject of the puzzle...
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Posted on Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 11:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do you click the 'If you're not Edward Mason, click here' link to log out?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 1:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In one of the other threads you mentioned that you have not learned to drive yet, and there was a second part of that remark ( I have forgotten exactly what ) that indicated you may still be in school. You're probably thinking of when I said that I haven't yet had to fill out a tax form, which was in the same post as the 'driving' comment. Do you have to lie about your name to use your parents' credit card? no - Amazon accepts debit cards.

Do you click the 'If you're not Edward Mason, click here' link to log out? YES!!! And that makes a

***** SPOILER *****

As above. So to continue the title: "There are lies, damned lies and Amazon.co.uk" :-)

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