| Author | Message | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 235 Registered: 2-2007 |
Andrew's curiosity cost millions of dollars in damaged/destroyed property, about ten injuries, and several deaths. | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 89 Registered: 4-2007 |
Ok, so..Andrew: human? adult? male? Injuries and deaths happened to humans? Andrew's job relevant? Is this a true story? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 237 Registered: 2-2007 |
Ok, so..Andrew: human? YES adult? NO male? YES Injuries and deaths happened to humans? YES Andrew's job relevant? NO Is this a true story? YES -- but not a very well-known one | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 238 Registered: 2-2007 |
also, please have a look at my other puzzles | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 90 Registered: 4-2007 |
So Andrew is a child? A baby? Toddler? Under 10? Over 10? Teenager? Did he do something because he was curious that directly led to the events? Or was it more indirect? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 239 Registered: 2-2007 |
So Andrew is a child? Actually, he's an adult, sorry ... A baby? Toddler? Under 10? Over 10? Teenager? Did he do something because he was curious that directly led to the events? Or was it more indirect? Directly | ||
| Logician (Logician)
New member Username: Logician Post Number: 321 Registered: 6-2003 |
If Andrew had done what he did intentionally, would it have constituted a crime? If it would've, would that crime have been arson? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 244 Registered: 2-2007 |
If Andrew had done what he did intentionally, would it have constituted a crime? YES If it would've, would that crime have been arson? YES | ||
| Logician (Logician)
New member Username: Logician Post Number: 323 Registered: 6-2003 |
So, Andrew was curious about something, and that set off a fire that caused a massive amount of damage, and caused some deaths and others injured. Correct? Is there anything else we need to know about the consequences of his curiosity? Or do we just now need to work out exactly what he was curious about and how he enacted his curiosity? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 245 Registered: 2-2007 |
So, Andrew was curious about something, and that set off a fire that caused a massive amount of damage, and caused some deaths and others injured. Correct? YES Is there anything else we need to know about the consequences of his curiosity? YES Or do we just now need to work out exactly what he was curious about and how he enacted his curiosity? and this too | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 94 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did he mean to set off the fire? Did setting off the fire in some way satisfy his curiosity? Or was that just an accident? Was he curious whether something would burn? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 246 Registered: 2-2007 |
Did he mean to set off the fire? NO Did setting off the fire in some way satisfy his curiosity? NO Or was that just an accident? YES Was he curious whether something would burn? NO | ||
| Logician (Logician)
New member Username: Logician Post Number: 324 Registered: 6-2003 |
Am I correct in assuming that, as in a lot of fires, this particular fire started when a flame of some description came into contact with a combustible substance? If so, did this flame come from: the lighting of a match? of a cigarette/cigar? of a lighter? from a fireplace? Was the combustible substance petrol? gas? wood? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 249 Registered: 2-2007 |
Am I correct in assuming that, as in a lot of fires, this particular fire started when a flame of some description came into contact with a combustible substance? YES If so, did this flame come from: the lighting of a match? NO of a cigarette/cigar? NO of a lighter? NO from a fireplace? NO Was the combustible substance petrol? YES gas? YES wood? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 98 Registered: 4-2007 |
Sorry, but just to clarify: do you mean gas in the American sense (as in gasoline, or petrol) or in the other sense (as in air is a gas)? Did Andrew knock something over? Did he cause a spark somehow? Did he heat something up too much? Was he curious about how something worked? About what would happen if he did something? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 250 Registered: 2-2007 |
Sorry, but just to clarify: do you mean gas in the American sense (as in gasoline, or petrol) or in the other sense (as in air is a gas)? the latter Did Andrew knock something over? NO Did he cause a spark somehow? YES Did he heat something up too much? YESish Was he curious about how something worked? NO About what would happen if he did something? NO | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 101 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did he do something that created a lot of friction, and therefore produed a spark? Rub two things together? Scrape something along something else? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 253 Registered: 2-2007 |
Did he do something that created a lot of friction, and therefore produed a spark? Rub two things together? Scrape something along something else? NONE | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 6 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was this done in a laboratory? a house? a garage? outdoors? other? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 258 Registered: 2-2007 |
Was this done in a laboratory? a house? <THIS a garage? <THIS outdoors? other? | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 105 Registered: 4-2007 |
Cars relevant? Did he set fire to the petrol in his car's tank somehow? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 259 Registered: 2-2007 |
Cars relevant? YES Did he set fire to the petrol in his car's tank somehow? NO | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 7 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was the car running at the time? Was this a garage in a house? a business? Was it a fire? an explosion? Did it have to do with gas from a propane tank? He wasn't trying to barbeque/grill in the garage by any chance, was he--on a rainy day? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 261 Registered: 2-2007 |
Was the car running at the time? NO Was this a garage in a house? YES a business? Was it a fire? an explosion? This Did it have to do with gas from a propane tank? NO He wasn't trying to barbeque/grill in the garage by any chance, was he--on a rainy day? NO | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 8 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did toxic fumes come into contact with gasoline from the car? gasoline in a can? If so, were the fumes from paint thinner? cleaners? other? Another route--was he playing with firecrackers (is this just an American term?) by any chance? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 265 Registered: 2-2007 |
Did toxic fumes come into contact with gasoline from the car? NO gasoline in a can? NOIf so, were the fumes from paint thinner? cleaners? other? Another route--was he playing with firecrackers (is this just an American term? don't know ... but I know it!) by any chance? NO, he wasn't | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 11 Registered: 4-2007 |
Not to sound juvenile--but the gas is not from his own body is it--and an aeresol can and a lighter? Also, were the people who died/ were injuried in the house at the time or the surrounding area? Does it matter how far away these people were from the explosion? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 271 Registered: 2-2007 |
Not to sound juvenile--but the gas is not from his own body is it NO --and an aeresol can and a lighter? NO Also, were the people who died/ were injuried in the house at the time YES or the surrounding area? YES Does it matter how far away these people were from the explosion? Not really | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 377 Registered: 9-2003 |
was he doing something in the garage to do with the car? trying to fix it? is there anything else relevant in the garage apart from the car? any electrical items in the garage? relevant? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 272 Registered: 2-2007 |
was he doing something in the garage to do with the car? NOish trying to fix it? NO is there anything else relevant in the garage apart from the car? YES any electrical items in the garage? relevant? NO | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 14 Registered: 4-2007 |
was he trying to create something in the garage? a bomb of some sort? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 274 Registered: 2-2007 |
was he trying to create something in the garage? NO a bomb of some sort? | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 592 Registered: 1-2007 |
Are there any pipes visible in the garage? If so, is anyone of them connected to the central gas line? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 279 Registered: 2-2007 |
Are there any pipes visible in the garage? NO If so, is anyone of them connected to the central gas line? | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 382 Registered: 9-2003 |
was there stuff stored in the garage? was he moving it? putting something in there? taking it out? | ||
| Shuba (Shuba)
New member Username: Shuba Post Number: 3 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was he playing in the garage? Was he alone? Were his family members injured? Did Andrew die/ get injured? Did he go to the garage for some thing? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 283 Registered: 2-2007 |
was there stuff stored in the garage? YES was he moving it? NO putting something in there? NO taking it out? YESish Was he playing in the garage? YES Was he alone? YES Were his family members injured? Probably Did Andrew die/ get injured? YES Did he go to the garage for some thing? Irr | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 386 Registered: 9-2003 |
was he trying to take one thing out of the garage? more? did he need that item in the house? when you say he was playing in the garage, playing to me is a child activity, but he is an adult yea? or is playing as in something to do with music? or do you mean soemthing like he was bored and just doing stuff in the garage to pass time? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 286 Registered: 2-2007 |
was he trying to take one thing out of the garage? NO more? NO did he need that item in the house? NO when you say he was playing in the garage, playing to me is a child activity, but he is an adult yea? Well, 'playing' as in fooling about or is playing as in something to do with music? or do you mean soemthing like he was bored and just doing stuff in the garage to pass time? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 20 Registered: 4-2007 |
Was he trying to create something? something scientific? something artistic? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 287 Registered: 2-2007 |
Was he trying to create something? NO something scientific? NO something artistic? NO | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 34 Registered: 1-2007 |
Was he driving the car? Did the petrol/gas/diesel leak out of the car? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 288 Registered: 2-2007 |
Was he driving the car? NO Did the petrol/gas/diesel leak out of the car? NO | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 41 Registered: 1-2007 |
Was he engaging in an activity that is usually prohibited for minors? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 289 Registered: 2-2007 |
Was he engaging in an activity that is usually prohibited for minors? NO | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 296 Registered: 2-2007 |
HINT: A car is not DIRECTLY involved ... but he did cause petrol vapours from a car or some cars to explode. | ||
| Foulglory (Foulglory)
New member Username: Foulglory Post Number: 77 Registered: 1-2007 |
Did he open the fuel tank? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 29 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did a spark occur that caused the fire? From a flint/rock? From steel wool? Was he trying to siphon gasoline from the tank? You mentioned earlier that he heated something up "too much", correct?--bunsen burner (from a laboratory)? hotplate? Did a vapor from something else come into contact with the gasoline vapors from the car? Cleaning products? kerosene? other? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 305 Registered: 2-2007 |
Did he open the fuel tank? YES Did a spark occur that caused the fire? YES From a flint/rock? NO From steel wool? NO Was he trying to siphon gasoline from the tank? YESish You mentioned earlier that he heated something up "too much", correct?--bunsen burner (from a laboratory)? hotplate? NONE Did a vapor from something else come into contact with the gasoline vapors from the car? NO Cleaning products? kerosene? other? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 30 Registered: 4-2007 |
was he trying to get gasoline from the car tank to another piece of equipment? lawnmower? other? if so, was the other piece of equipment running? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 308 Registered: 2-2007 |
was he trying to get gasoline from the car tank to another piece of equipment? NO but explorelawnmower? other? if so, was the other piece of equipment running? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 331 Registered: 2-2007 |
HINT : The era of house he lives in is slightly relevant. | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 51 Registered: 3-2007 |
Did the spark come from something inside the car? Sparkplugs? Metal rubbing on metal? Relevant? Is it an old house? Was it built in the 21st century? 20th? 19th? Earlier? If in the 20th cetury, what decade? 90s? 80s? 70s? 60s? 50s? 40s? 30s? 20s? earlier? Was there something in the house that doesn't work as well because of it's age? In the garage? Something that's broken? Is the location of the house and garage relaevant? | ||
| Danaria789 (Danaria789)
New member Username: Danaria789 Post Number: 52 Registered: 3-2007 |
Was Andrew curious about something in the house or garage? Something unique to it's era? Something unfamiliar? Was it his lack of knowledge that caused the accident? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 341 Registered: 2-2007 |
Did the spark come from something inside the car? Sparkplugs? Metal rubbing on metal? Relevant? NONE of these, but it is relevant from where it came Is it an old house? YES Was it built in the 21st century? 20th? Probably 19th? Earlier? If in the 20th cetury, what decade? 90s? 80s? 70s? 60s? 50s? 40s? 30s? 20s? earlier? Irrel Was there something in the house that doesn't work as well because of it's age? NO In the garage? NO Something that's broken? NO Is the location of the house and garage relaevant? NO Was Andrew curious about something in the house or garage? YES Something unique to it's era? NO Something unfamiliar? NO Was it his lack of knowledge that caused the accident? Probably | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 49 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is the type of car relevant? If so, was it a Ford Pinto (American Car) by any chance? I believe they used to explode when hit from the back. When you say that it is relevant where the spark came from--did it come from the car? engine? gas tank? wheels? inside or outside of the car?--my knowledge of cars is nil, so I am trying all the things I know about cars! Did the spark come from something else in the garage? another piece of equipment? It was "yesish" that he was trying to siphon gasoline from the tank of the car--was he trying to get gasoline into a car or out of a car? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 343 Registered: 2-2007 |
Is the type of car relevant? NO If so, was it a Ford Pinto (American Car) by any chance? I believe they used to explode when hit from the back. NO When you say that it is relevant where the spark came from--did it come from the car? NOengine? gas tank? wheels? inside or outside of the car?--my knowledge of cars is nil, so I am trying all the things I know about cars! Did the spark come from something else in the garage? YES another piece of equipment? YESish It was "yesish" that he was trying to siphon gasoline from the tank of the car--was he trying to get gasoline into a car or out of a car? Out, but the way you phrased the question may lead to an FA (false assumption) | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 397 Registered: 9-2003 |
was he putting the gas into something else? some sort of can? bucket? letting it leak onto the floor? did the other thing in the garage create the spark by itself? or did he do something to create it? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 355 Registered: 2-2007 |
was he putting the gas into something else? YES some sort of can? YESish bucket? letting it leak onto the floor? did the other thing in the garage create the spark by itself? YES or did he do something to create it? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 70 Registered: 4-2007 |
gasoline can? paint can? thinking of more types of cans in a garage... spark from fuse box? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 71 Registered: 4-2007 |
was he trying to use/borrow some gasoline from his car because something else in his garage ran out of gas? chainsaw? yard equipment? weedeater? edger? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 360 Registered: 2-2007 |
gasoline can? paint can? thinking of more types of cans in a garage... Not actually relevant ... it's a jar spark from fuse box? NO was he trying to use/borrow some gasoline from his car because something else in his garage ran out of gas? NO ... also a FA chainsaw? yard equipment? weedeater? edger? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 78 Registered: 4-2007 |
does the spark come from a battery and steel wool by any chance? just learned that you can start a fire this way...don't go trying this at home! | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 361 Registered: 2-2007 |
does the spark come from a battery and steel wool by any chance? NO just learned that you can start a fire this way...don't go trying this at home! | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 405 Registered: 9-2003 |
did he take the gas for a reason? to put in something else? did he just want it not to be in the car? relevant why he did it at all? is the thing that sparks something most people would realise could spark? or cause problems? or is it something you wouldn't normally associate with fire? sparks? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 363 Registered: 2-2007 |
did he take the gas for a reason? YES to put in something else? YES did he just want it not to be in the car? YESish, possible FArelevant why he did it at all? YES is the thing that sparks something most people would realise could spark? YES or cause problems? YES or is it something you wouldn't normally associate with fire? You would sparks? Perhaps | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 88 Registered: 4-2007 |
spark come from a: light switch? pilot light? maybe from a water heater? garage door opener? powerful machine in the garage? (electric saw, that sort of thing) power equipment for lawn? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 372 Registered: 2-2007 |
spark come from a: light switch? NO pilot light? maybe from a water heater? NONE garage door opener? NO powerful machine in the garage? (electric saw, that sort of thing) YESish power equipment for lawn? NO | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 95 Registered: 4-2007 |
when you say yesish to powerful machine, would it be helpful for me to list various powerful machines? is the yesish answer to the "powerful" part of the question, "machine" part of the question, or both? could the spark come from some sort of generator in the garage? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 96 Registered: 4-2007 |
just another quick thought: could the spark come from something that is normally stored in the house as opposed to in the garage? (i.e. iron, hairdryer, etc.) | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 376 Registered: 2-2007 |
when you say yesish to powerful machine, would it be helpful for me to list various powerful machines? Not sure is the yesish answer to the "powerful" part of the question, "machine" part of the question, or both? Sorry, I should have answered NO to that question could the spark come from some sort of generator in the garage? NO could the spark come from something that is normally stored in the house as opposed to in the garage? (i.e. iron, hairdryer, etc.) NO | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 424 Registered: 9-2003 |
anything to do with fireworks? some sort of explosive powder? a gas? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 383 Registered: 2-2007 |
anything to do with fireworks? some sort of explosive powder? a gas? NO to all | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 121 Registered: 4-2007 |
you mentioned that whatever caused the spark one would definitely associate with fire, but only possibly associate with sparks, correct? does he have a fireplace in his garage? wood burning stove? maybe a portable stove (like for camping)? another stove of some sort? does the spark come from any of these? which order was everything when he was playing around: fire>spark>explosion? spark>fire>explosion? spark>fire>explosion? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 388 Registered: 2-2007 |
you mentioned that whatever caused the spark one would definitely associate with fire, but only possibly associate with sparks, correct? YES does he have a fireplace in his garage? wood burning stove? maybe a portable stove (like for camping)? another stove of some sort? Yes, I was thinking of a furnace heater does the spark come from any of these? YES which order was everything when he was playing around: fire>spark>explosion? spark>fire>explosion? spark>fire>explosion? Not really relevant ... but Spark - Explosion - Fire | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 124 Registered: 4-2007 |
would this be a portable furnace heater (kind of like a space heater?) or would it be a heater installed in the garage? electric heater? gas heater? was he trying to heat something up on the furnace? maybe his socks or other part of clothing? food? or was he trying to heat up the garage? was the jar of gasoline near the heater? he didn't have the gasoline on the heater, did he? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 391 Registered: 2-2007 |
would this be a portable furnace heater (kind of like a space heater?) or would it be a heater installed in the garage? Installed electric heater? gas heater? I'm not sure was he trying to heat something up on the furnace? NO maybe his socks or other part of clothing? food? or was he trying to heat up the garage? was the jar of gasoline near the heater? YES he didn't have the gasoline on the heater, did he? NO | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 130 Registered: 4-2007 |
so, did a spark from the furnace hit the jar of gasoline? If so, did this cause an explosion (and maybe multiple explosions because of the car(s) in the garage)? After the explosion was a fire started which consumed his house and possibly others around it--and because of the fire others were killed/injured? Hopefully some of this is right! I guess we still need to find out how the spark came from the furnace heater? Was there a plug? If so, was it damaged? Was he trying to fix this plug? Was he trying to fix anything on the heater? Was he trying to mess about with the heater in any way? Was he possibly trying to get the heater to produce more heat? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 392 Registered: 2-2007 |
so, did a spark from the furnace hit the jar of gasoline? If so, did this cause an explosion (and maybe multiple explosions because of the car(s) in the garage)? After the explosion was a fire started which consumed his house and possibly others around it--and because of the fire others were killed/injured? Hopefully some of this is right! That's right ... but theres is still more -- consider from where the gasoline even came I guess we still need to find out how the spark came from the furnace heater? NO Was there a plug? If so, was it damaged? Was he trying to fix this plug? Was he trying to fix anything on the heater? NO Was he trying to mess about with the heater in any way? NO Was he possibly trying to get the heater to produce more heat? NO | ||
| Ladyzinga (Ladyzinga)
New member Username: Ladyzinga Post Number: 41 Registered: 5-2004 |
it seems like every time someone mentions a car the answer is either no or fa. was the gas in a different part of the car than one would normally expect? the trunk perhaps? was it even in a car at all? some other vehicle? some other gas powered equipment? was something leaking? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 396 Registered: 2-2007 |
it seems like every time someone mentions a car the answer is either no or fa. was the gas in a different part of the car than one would normally expect? the trunk perhaps? was it even in a car at all? NOish some other vehicle? NO some other gas powered equipment? NO was something leaking? NO | ||
| Ladyzinga (Ladyzinga)
New member Username: Ladyzinga Post Number: 42 Registered: 5-2004 |
was it in the gas tank of a car that wasnt attached to the rest of the car? the grissom in my head is very confused and running out of ideas. when you said this one was harder, you really werent kidding! | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 400 Registered: 2-2007 |
was it in the gas tank of a car that wasnt attached to the rest of the car? NO the grissom in my head is very confused and running out of ideas. when you said this one was harder, you really werent kidding! Well, you have half of it ... | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 133 Registered: 4-2007 |
ok, back to the gasoline question: he took some gasoline out of his car's gasoline tank and put it into a jar, correct? did he want to fool around with his car without having gasoline in it? was he getting ready to disassemble his car? maybe put a new engine in the car? revamp the car? give the car a paint job? give the car new tires? update the car in some way? another route: had he not driven the car in a while? did he think the gasoline in the tank was "old", so he maybe was getting rid of the "old" gasoline and thinking about putting some "new" gasoline in the car? was the gasoline in the jar simply too close to the furnace heater? did the fumes from the jar of gasoline cause the heater to spark in the first place? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 402 Registered: 2-2007 |
ok, back to the gasoline question: he took some gasoline out of his car's gasoline tank and put it into a jar, correct? NO did he want to fool around with his car without having gasoline in it was he getting ready to disassemble his car? maybe put a new engine in the car? revamp the car? give the car a paint job? give the car new tires? update the car in some way? NO another route: had he not driven the car in a while? did he think the gasoline in the tank was "old", so he maybe was getting rid of the "old" gasoline and thinking about putting some "new" gasoline in the car? was the gasoline in the jar simply too close to the furnace heater? YES did the fumes from the jar of gasoline cause the heater to spark in the first place? YES | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 451 Registered: 9-2003 |
was the gas in the car in a different container? was it some spare gas he had in the car for emergencies? and he poured it from that container into the jar? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 405 Registered: 2-2007 |
was the gas in the car in a different container? YES, but possible FA was it some spare gas he had in the car for emergencies? NO and he poured it from that container into the jar? NO | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 142 Registered: 4-2007 |
container from the car: was the gasoline in the car in a gasoline can? just to verify, the gasoline that was in the jar (that started fire/explosion) was not from the car at all, correct? was the gasoline in the jar from a gasoline can? from another piece of equipment in the garage? use for the gasoline in the jar: was he getting ready to put the gasoline from the jar into his car? was he getting ready to put the gasoline from the jar into something else in the garage? was he using the gasoline in the jar for something else? maybe to clean paintbrushes? was he even getting ready to use the gasoline in the jar, or was he going to discard it? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 408 Registered: 2-2007 |
container from the car: was the gasoline in the car in a gasoline can? Sorry ... what ? just to verify, the gasoline that was in the jar (that started fire/explosion) was not from the car at all, correct? NO, but cars are involved was the gasoline in the jar from a gasoline can? NO from another piece of equipment in the garage? NO use for the gasoline in the jar: was he getting ready to put the gasoline from the jar into his car? YES was he getting ready to put the gasoline from the jar into something else in the garage? NO was he using the gasoline in the jar for something else? maybe to clean paintbrushes? was he even getting ready to use the gasoline in the jar, or was he going to discard it? | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 608 Registered: 1-2007 |
Was the can suitable for storing gas? Did any gas fumes leak out? | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 145 Registered: 4-2007 |
now that we know that he was getting ready to put the gasoline from the jar into his car (I assume we are talking about putting it into the gasoline tank, correct?) do we need to figure out where he got the gasoline that was in the jar? if so, did he get this gasoline from another type of vehicle? a vehicle in the garage? we still need to figure out how he was messing about in the garage, correct? are these the only two pieces of information that are missing? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 409 Registered: 2-2007 |
Was the can suitable for storing gas? YES Did any gas fumes leak out? YES ish now that we know that he was getting ready to put the gasoline from the jar into his car (I assume we are talking about putting it into the gasoline tank, correct? YES) do we need to figure out where he got the gasoline that was in the jar? YES if so, did he get this gasoline from another type of vehicle? YES ish a vehicle in the garage? NO we still need to figure out how he was messing about in the garage, correct? NO are these the only two pieces of information that are missing? YEs, but see above | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 147 Registered: 4-2007 |
(forgive me if I list some of the same things again)... did he get the gasoline that was in the jar from: a lawnmower? a chainsaw? a boat? a plane? a snowmobile? did he get the gasoline from something that was not in the garage? had his car run out of gas? was he trying to borrow gas from another piece of equipment or vehicle to put into the car? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 412 Registered: 2-2007 |
(forgive me if I list some of the same things again)... did he get the gasoline that was in the jar from: a lawnmower? a chainsaw? a boat? a plane? a snowmobile? NONE did he get the gasoline from something that was not in the garage? YES had his car run out of gas? Irr was he trying to borrow gas from another piece of equipment or vehicle to put into the car? YES ish | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 468 Registered: 9-2003 |
did he go to a petrol station? and filled up a can there? a proper gas can? did he then take that back to his garage? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 416 Registered: 2-2007 |
did he go to a petrol station? and filled up a can there? a proper gas can? did he then take that back to his garage? NONE | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 482 Registered: 9-2003 |
hmm ok then, did he get the gas from another vehicle outside his garage? or another appliance that runs of gas outside his garage? did whatever he took the gas from belong to him? | ||
| Emeraldink (Emeraldink)
New member Username: Emeraldink Post Number: 118 Registered: 4-2007 |
Things he could get gasoline from: snow plough? backup power generator? tractor ( that would be diesel, though )? some other type of farm equipment? | ||
| Zenith (Zenith)
New member Username: Zenith Post Number: 401 Registered: 10-2004 |
By the way, just checking, do we have two types flammable substances, the petrol AND a gas?
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| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 422 Registered: 2-2007 |
hmm ok then, did he get the gas from another vehicle outside his garage? YES or another appliance that runs of gas outside his garage? NO did whatever he took the gas from belong to him? NO Things he could get gasoline from: snow plough? NO backup power generator? NO tractor ( that would be diesel, though )? NO some other type of farm equipment? NO By the way, just checking, do we have two types flammable substances, the petrol AND a gas? YES, just to make it less confusing, the second gas is the vapour from the first gas (or petrol) | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 544 Registered: 9-2003 |
so he stole petrol from another vehicle and put it into a container? he then took that container and put it in/by his own car? left it long enough for the gas fumes from it to meet the spark? which then blew up? | ||
| Snoozer (Snoozer)
New member Username: Snoozer Post Number: 615 Registered: 1-2007 |
Could he smell the gas fumes? Did he light a match to find out where it came from? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 424 Registered: 2-2007 |
so he stole petrol from another vehicle and put it into a container? YES he then took that container and put it in/by his own car? YES left it long enough for the gas fumes from it to meet the spark? Not exactly which then blew up? YES Could he smell the gas fumes? NO Did he light a match to find out where it came from? NO | ||
| Booklover (Booklover)
New member Username: Booklover Post Number: 201 Registered: 4-2007 |
Did some of the gasoline spill out of the jar? Did he accidentally kick the jar over? Did he get some of the gasoline on his hands or other part of his body? Did the spark from the heater hit the jar, or did the gasoline come into contact with the heater at all? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 427 Registered: 2-2007 |
Did some of the gasoline spill out of the jar? NO Did he accidentally kick the jar over? NO Did he get some of the gasoline on his hands or other part of his body? NO Did the spark from the heater hit the jar NO, there wasn't a spark directly from the heater, or did the gasoline come into contact with the heater at all? YESish | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 547 Registered: 9-2003 |
did he put the gas container on top of the heater? by the heater? does any get spilt? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 429 Registered: 2-2007 |
did he put the gas container on top of the heater? by the heater? YES ish does any get spilt? NO | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 475 Registered: 4-2007 |
Does the heater make something in the garage so hot that it produces a spark? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 432 Registered: 2-2007 |
Does the heater make something in the garage so hot that it produces a spark? YES | ||
| Blazingphoenix (Blazingphoenix)
New member Username: Blazingphoenix Post Number: 98 Registered: 2-2007 |
So the container of gasoline got too hot, which caused a spark that then caused the gas inside to explode? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 433 Registered: 2-2007 |
So the container of gasoline got too hot, which caused a spark that then caused the gas inside to explode? YES, so put it all together and you'll nearly have it | ||
| ~damia~ (~damia~)
New member Username: ~damia~ Post Number: 577 Registered: 9-2003 |
ok so he stole gas from a car, put it into a container, took the container into his garage and set it down close to a heater. The heater naturally heated up the container which caused a spark which exploded the gas and destroyed and killed everyone/thing in the blast zone? | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 438 Registered: 2-2007 |
ok so he stole gas from a car, put it into a container, took the container into his garage and set it down close to a heater. The heater naturally heated up the container which caused a spark which exploded the gas and destroyed and killed everyone/thing in the blast zone? Not exactly, but close enough for a ... | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 439 Registered: 2-2007 |
SPOILER Where my mother went to college (university), there were two brothers who would get up early in the morning and siphon the gas out of people's cars so that they couldn't drive to class in the morning. After they had taken the gas, they stored it in jars in their garage (I don't know why). One day, "Andrew" (one of the two) became curious and decided to open one of the jars -- while he was quite close to the heater furnace on the opposite wall -- which exploded the gas inside. Very sad story, yes, but ... you know ... | ||
| Superman (Superman)
New member Username: Superman Post Number: 440 Registered: 2-2007 |
For the record, I'm not sure if anyone actually died or what the damage was ... but it actually happened! |
