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Posted on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 - 4:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

for some reason he kept asking a question, the answer to which was very obvious
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He = human? adult? male? (i'm doing it here)

Hmm...he wanted to confirm it? (I have slight OCD and this happens to me.)

He wanted to prove something to someone who was arguing with him?

Was he sane?
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Google: Did you mean:_______
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was he asking a question of another human? someone he was face to face with?

was he on the computer? email? search engine?

was he in a classroom setting? student? teacher?

was he a policeman? interrogating someone?

is job relevant?

age relevant? child/teen/adult/senior?
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3-year-old child: "Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?"
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He = human? adult? male? (i'm doing it here) yes to all

Hmm...he wanted to confirm it? (I have slight OCD and this happens to me.) is that a question

He wanted to prove something to someone who was arguing with him? no

Was he sane? yes and he didn't have OCD
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was he asking a question of another human? yes someone he was face to face with? yes

was he on the computer? email? search engine? none of these

was he in a classroom setting? student? teacher? no to all

was he a policeman? no interrogating someone? yope

is job relevant? yes

age relevant? child/teen/adult/senior? he's an adult
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is his job:
religious in nature? medical? sports? entertainment? managerial? food service? customs?

does he work indoors or out of doors?
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is his job:
religious in nature? medical? sports? entertainment? managerial? food service? customs? none of these

does he work indoors or out of doors? outdoors
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3-year-old child: "Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?" no. but i'm well used to this line of questioning
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Anything along these lines:

"Are we there yet?"
"Are you awake?"
"Can you breathe?"
"What are we going to do?"

Did he ask any other questions, too?

Did the other person answer?
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Anything along these lines:

"Are we there yet?"
"Are you awake?"
"Can you breathe?"
"What are we going to do?" none of these

Did he ask any other questions, too? yes

Did the other person answer? yes element of FA here. Please explore.
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Since no one else can find this list, I'll scour it up from somewhere...
The relevant Job:
artistic/musical/writer?
Banking/financial/real estate?
Clerical/Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ?
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Entertainment?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion?
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Since no one else can find this list, I'll scour it up from somewhere...
The relevant Job:
artistic/musical/writer?
Banking/financial/real estate?
Clerical/Administrative?
Computer related / Hardware ?
Construction / Craftsman ?
Education / Academic Research ?
Entertainment / Media ?
Executive / Management ?
Hospitality / Travel ?
Legal Services ?
Manufacturing / Distributions ?
Medical / Health Services ?
Politics / Government / Military ? this one
Sales / Marketing ?
Technical / Science / Engineering ?
Teaching / Child care?
Transportation ?
Food Service ?
Sports?
Entertainment?
Jailbird / Criminal?
Religion?
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So he is a soldier? Is his rank relevant? Is he asking the question to more than one person? Is he talking to a PoW? Is he in a Mess? (Is he asking Tony Blair "Why did you get me into this mess"?)

Is his nationality relevant? Is this questioning conducted in a wartime situation? On a battlefield? Does the person being asked the question actually understand the question? Is he torturing someone?
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So he is a soldier? yes Is his rank relevant? no Is he asking the question to more than one person? manyIs he talking to a PoW? no Is he in a Mess? no(Is he asking Tony Blair "Why did you get me into this mess"?) no. Wish we could still do smileys

Is his nationality relevant? yes Is this questioning conducted in a wartime situation? yesish On a battlefield? no Does the person being asked the question actually understand the question? yesIs he torturing someone? no
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was he from UK? USA?
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was he from UK? this one USA?
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Is he trying to draw attention to himself for some reason?
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Is he trying to draw attention to himself for some reason? no
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Country where he was in relevant? Great Britain? Iraq?
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Country where he was in relevant? yes Great Britain? not quite Iraq? no
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Northern Ireland? Republic of Ireland? one of the channel islands?
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Northern Ireland? this Republic of Ireland? one of the channel islands?
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Does he ask about religion?
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Does he ask about religion? no

btw this puzzle is not politcally motivated or anything so don't worry on that score. It concerns an interesting fact that i discovered recently
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OK, I was thinking maybe he asked about religion/political opinion on the Northern Ireland issue to someone wearing a DUP/Sinn Fein logo on their clothing. But obviously not. Well, back to the drawing board.

Could it have happened any other place in Northern Ireland? Relevant what part of Northern Ireland?
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Are other people involved also soldiers? recruits?
Is he asking them if they are ready to serve? asking for volunteers?
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Was it a roll call, where the names are called and those present say "here" and those not present... well, that obvious!
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Could it have happened any other place in Northern Ireland? yesRelevant what part of Northern Ireland? no could have happened anywhere in the province

Are other people involved also soldiers? no recruits? no
Is he asking them if they are ready to serve? no volunteers? no

Was it a roll call, where the names are called and those present say "here" and those not present... well, that obvious! nice thought but no
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From your first sentence, I would guess that he kept on askig the same question over and over. How many other people are involved? Just the one he is talking to, or more?
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From your first sentence, I would guess that he kept on askig the same question over and over. amongst others yes How many other people are involved? many Just the one he is talking to, or more? lots more
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Was he addressing a crowd? Was he deleivering a speech?
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Was he addressing a crowd? Was he deleivering a speech? neither of these
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Is he on television? Is he singing?
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Is he on television? Is he singing? no to both
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Is he on guard duty? Does he stay in the same place and those he questions come up to him? or does he move about? Does he choose the people to question or do they choose themselves in some way? Does he address one person at a time? many all at once?
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So is he at a checkpoint? Asking people their names?
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Is he on guard duty? in a sense Does he stay in the same place and those he questions come up to him? yes or does he move about? no Does he choose the people to question or do they choose themselves in some way? he chooses Does he address one person at a time? yes many all at once? noish
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So is he at a checkpoint? yes he is Asking people their names? yes but this is not the question with the obvious answer
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Something like 'anyone there'? 'do you want access'? 'do you want to bring a car with you' (to a driver)?
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Something like 'anyone there'? 'do you want access'? 'do you want to bring a car with you' (to a driver)? no to all
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The people he asks this question are they visitors? To tourist destination of some sort, like a museum? park? or castle?
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Is it a yes/no question? An either/or question?
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Does the guard ask if a traveler is in possession of something?
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I remember when I went abroad we had to fill in a form stating we weren't a terrorist-anything like this (because what kind of terrorist is going to admit it before they gets into the airport?)
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Eli
The people he asks this question are they visitors? yope To tourist destination of some sort, like a museum? no park? no or castle? No

Woodworm
Is it a yes/no question? no An either/or question? no

Emeraldlink
Does the guard ask if a traveler is in possession of something? no

enjay
I remember when I went abroad we had to fill in a form stating we weren't a terrorist-anything like this (because what kind of terrorist is going to admit it before they gets into the airport?)no but i've heard of that question and it always cracks me up
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Is he a border guard? Does he ask from which country they are coming?!
Is the answer obvious by looking at the person? sex? skin colour? by looking at what they are? are not? carrying.
Does everyone questioned give the same answer?
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Is he a border guard? yes Does he ask from which country they are coming?! no
Is the answer obvious by looking at the person? no sex? no skin colour? no by looking at what they are? are not? carrying. neither
Does everyone questioned give the same answer? no
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Is he asking ar you going to [the country he is guarding] ?

Is he in the immigration department?
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Is this set during the Troubles? If so, is this relevant? By which I mean: would this puzzle work, say, for an immigration official at JFK Airport? A Customs official at Dover? Are passports relevant? Does he always receive an answer? Or just sometimes? Would the travellers be in trouble if they refused to give an answer? An old friend of mine was once asked at US Immigration whether he was a member of the Communist Party, and he replied: "And if I was? What's it to you!" ... anything along those lines?

Is it a real question that demands a reply, as opposed to a formal "would you mind just stopping there, Sir?" (to which it would not be a good idea to answer no)?
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Is he asking ar you going to [the country he is guarding] ? no

Is he in the immigration department? no
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Is this set during the Troubles? yes If so, is this relevant? yes By which I mean: would this puzzle work, say, for an immigration official at JFK Airport? no A Customs official at Dover? no Are passports relevant? no Does he always receive an answer? yes Or just sometimes? Would the travellers be in trouble if they refused to give an answer? yes An old friend of mine was once asked at US Immigration whether he was a member of the Communist Party, and he replied: "And if I was? What's it to you!" ... anything along those lines? no the question is not political in nature

Is it a real question that demands a reply, as opposed to a formal "would you mind just stopping there, Sir?" (to which it would not be a good idea to answer no)? yes it's not a rhetorical question
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does the border official ask the person why they are entering the country--for business, pleasure, or medical treatment?
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does the border official ask the person why they are entering the country--for business, pleasure, or medical treatment? none of these btw he's not a border official he's a soldier
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Are there only a certain number of answers he could receive? Or is it an open-ended question that he could receive any number of answers for? Is he asking the people to make a choice? State a fact about themselves? Does everyone give an accurate answer? Is it obvious to the guard what they are going to say from looking at them? From where they are coming from? Where they are going to? Who they are with? What they are carrying or wearing?
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Are there only a certain number of answers he could receive? yesishOr is it an open-ended question that he could receive any number of answers for? no Is he asking the people to make a choice? no State a fact about themselves? noDoes everyone give an accurate answer? some don't i guess and that's the point of asking it Is it obvious to the guard what they are going to say from looking at them? yesish From where they are coming from? no Where they are going to? no Who they are with? no What they are carrying or wearing? no
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Not sure if this was asked, but is the question whether the person is bearing arms or weapons of any sort?
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Anything related to elections? intent to re-entry? having relatives on the other side? religion?

Wait, wait! Does he ask if they need a map?
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Not sure if this was asked, but is the question whether the person is bearing arms or weapons of any sort? no

Anything related to elections? intent to re-entry? having relatives on the other side? religion? none of these

Wait, wait! Does he ask if they need a map? no
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Is the soldier securing an entry to something or an exit from something? Both?
Is there an easy way for the soldier to find out if the person is lying?
Is he asking for something or about something?
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Is the soldier securing an entry to something or an exit from something? Both? both
Is there an easy way for the soldier to find out if the person is lying? yes
Is he asking for something or about something? about something
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blooper alert

Is there an easy way for the soldier to find out if the person is lying? this answer should have been no . More so that the person would be mistaken . It's not a question you could really lie about
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Is he asking their opinion on anything? Would the answer be obvious to anyone watching, o just the soldier? Is it clear to him what the person is going to say, or what the actual answer is? (what I mean by this is that if they were mistaken and sad the wrong thing, would he have been able to predict that they said the wrong thing, or would he have known what the actual answer should be)
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Is he asking their opinion on anything? NoWould the answer be obvious to anyone watching, o just the soldier? anyone Is it clear to him what the person is going to say, or what the actual answer is? (what I mean by this is that if they were mistaken and sad the wrong thing, would he have been able to predict that they said the wrong thing, or would he have known what the actual answer should be) the key is that the soldier himself knows the answer already he is trying to establish if the person knows it
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So he is asking them a question to test their knowledge of something? And there is one right answer, which the soldier knows? Is it that if they get it right they are allowed into the country, but if not they are not? I'm assuming the answer is not obvious to some ofthe people he asks, as some of them are mistaken? Should each person he asks give a different answer, or is there one right answer which everyone should give?
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So he is asking them a question to test their knowledge of something? yes And there is one right answer, which the soldier knows? yes Is it that if they get it right they are allowed into the country, but if not they are not? more so they would be arrested if they failed to answer correctly I'm assuming the answer is not obvious to some ofthe people he asks, as some of them are mistaken? yes but it should be Should each person he asks give a different answer, or is there one right answer which everyone should give? maybe many different answers but for each person asked there is only one right answer. Good questions.
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The soldier asks people's names among other things. Is pronunciation of the answer as important as the answer itself?
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The soldier asks people's names among other things.correct Is pronunciation of the answer as important as the answer itself? no pronunciation is not relevant
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Do they have to show passport or similar?
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Do they have to show passport or similar? yes producing id would be necessary
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So they have to show their id, yet he asks their name even though it's clear from the id what it is. Is there more to it than this?
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So they have to show their id, yet he asks their name even though it's clear from the id what it is. Is there more to it than this? this is not the solution . typically they would ask your name first and then request id to verify this. The answer to the puzzle is a question not specifically about the person being questioned but about something else that is very relevant
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Does it involve some sort of local knowledge? (eg the Dutch resistance in WWII used to use the pronunciation of "Scheveningen" to determine who was really Dutch and who was a German occupier). Anything like that? Any place names relevant at all? Does he ask something about the passport itself? Is he looking at the passport when he asks it?
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Does it involve some sort of local knowledge? no(eg the Dutch resistance in WWII used to use the pronunciation of "Scheveningen" to determine who was really Dutch and who was a German occupier). Anything like that? noAny place names relevant at all? no Does he ask something about the passport itself? no i should have said the passport or id is irrelevant Is he looking at the passport when he asks it? no he is staring directly into the persons eyes (this is important)
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Is he doing a lie detector test? Does he ask "Are your eyes blue" to a person with blue eyes, to test if it is working?
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Is he doing a lie detector test? Does he ask "Are your eyes blue" to a person with blue eyes, to test if it is working? no to these but a nice thought
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Is he looking into the person's eyes to see if they are lying? To see what colour they are? Is it relevant if they are wearing glasses? Contact lenses? Sunglasses? Is the question to do with the person's eyes?
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Is he looking into the person's eyes to see if they are lying? more to monitor their reaction To see what colour they are? noIs it relevant if they are wearing glasses? no Contact lenses? noSunglasses? given the situation at the time it would be forbidden to were sunglasses at a checkpoint Is the question to do with the person's eyes? no remember it is not to do with the person themselves
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Is he testing their knowledge of the country they are entering? Is it a question that someone should be able to answer straight away? Does he look at their eyes because if they look away, he knows they must be thinking about it and they shouldn't have to?
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Is he testing their knowledge of the country they are entering? no Is it a question that someone should be able to answer straight away? yes. good question Does he look at their eyes because if they look away, he knows they must be thinking about it and they shouldn't have to? Almost. It's more that if they look away they are attempting to find out the answer which they shouldn't have to. Great progress in your last post.
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Ah...so is there something nearby that would tell them the answer? Is this to do with the rules of the checkpoint? I'm sorry but I can't remember...have we established which two countries he is on the border between? If not, should we?
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Ah...so is there something nearby that would tell them the answer? yes very nearby Is this to do with the rules of the checkpoint? not really more to do with why the checkpoint is there in the first place I'm sorry but I can't remember...have we established which two countries he is on the border between? If not, should we? well in my own experience it's in Northern Ireland on the border with the Republic of Ireland but this sort of question could have have been used at any location in Northern Ireland at that time
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I think I remember it is in Northern Ireland. Have travelled up to Belfast myself, but never been stopped at the border. Takes it take place at the airport? Harbour?
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The thing nearby...a map? A person? Something with writing on it?
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I think I remember it is in Northern Ireland. Have travelled up to Belfast myself, but never been stopped at the border. Takes it take place at the airport? Harbour? you have to remember this was when the troubles were at their height thankfully those bad days are behind us. This could have occured wherever there was checkpoint but in the main they would be along the border . I believe there was over 100 permanent checkpoints in place during the 70's & 80's
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The thing nearby...a map? A person? Something with writing on it? no to all
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Is it a symbol? a flag?
Something you can find on the border guard's uniform?
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Is it a symbol? a flag?
Something you can find on the border guard's uniform? none of these
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The question is being used to distinguish between groups of people?
If so, are the groups:
Protestants and Catholics?
Northern and Southern Irish?
Republicans and Loyalists?
Paramilitaries and non-paramilitaries?

Is this scenario peculiar to Northern Ireland?
Could a similar question have been used in Cyprus at the time of their "difficulties"?

The answer to the question is not specific to a particular location?
But it is specific to each individual?
Some people would tend to look at something to determine the answer?
If so, would they:
Look up?
Look down?
Look at another person?
Look at themselves?


Are the people travelling through the checkpoint on foot? In a vehicle?
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The question is being used to distinguish between groups of people? yope
If so, are the groups:
Protestants and Catholics?
Northern and Southern Irish?
Republicans and Loyalists?
Paramilitaries and non-paramilitaries? this

Is this scenario peculiar to Northern Ireland?
Could a similar question have been used in Cyprus at the time of their "difficulties"? yes

The answer to the question is not specific to a particular location?
But it is specific to each individual? yes
Some people would tend to look at something to determine the answer? yes the key is that you shouldn't have to
If so, would they:
Look up?
Look down?
Look at another person?
Look at themselves? hard to quantify let's just say look around


Are the people travelling through the checkpoint on foot? In a vehicle? in a vehicle. this is the most relevant question asked thus far
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Would they find the answer to the question within their vehicle? Or is the question about their vehicle? About other passengers in the vehicle?
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Would they find the answer to the question within their vehicle? Or is the question about their vehicle? it's a question about their vehicleAbout other passengers in the vehicle? could be but irrel
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BLOOPER - Oops misread your last question

About other passengers in the vehicle? no
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Is it to check that they are in their own vehicle? Does he ask them about the number plate? The colour? The make/model? Something else about the appearance? Something about insurance, car tax etc? Is it relevant whether the car is left or right-hand drive?
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Is it to check that they are in their own vehicle? yes Does he ask them about the number plate? No but The colour? bingo!! The make/model? Something else about the appearance? Something about insurance, car tax etc? Is it relevant whether the car is left or right-hand drive?

*******************Spoiler**************
That's a spoiler so i'll explain. I grew up living right on the border between the Republic and Northern Ireland and we did most of our shopping etc in the north. During the bad days of the troubles this meant passing through a permanent British Army border checkpoint . I was puzzled as a young child why the soldier would approach the driver stare into his eyes and ask "what colour is your vehicle". Apparently the Army's research showed that in as much as 30% of cases involving a hijacked vehicle the occupants were unable to say what colour the car was without looking at the exterior. I know this sounds bizarre but a former soldier recently confirmed this to me. If you glanced away or hesitated before answering the soldier would detain you further for more in depth questioning about the ownership of the vehicle. Thankfully those days are now gone and the border crossings no longer have a military presence, In fact in some cases the only way you know you've crossed the border is by the fact that the road signs are in miles and not kilometres and the irish translation of place names is no longer on the signs.

thanks to all for playing
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Good puzzle...glad I wasn't there though, I'm not sure I could remember the colour of my own car under that much pressure!

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