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Foulglory (Foulglory)
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Posted on Friday, April 27, 2007 - 2:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He forever regretted it.....
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he = human? male?
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He=human? adult? male?

True story? From fiction? tv? film? FYOI?

Any of these relevant;
location?
era?
profession?
hobbies?
background?
family?
money?
education?
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he = human? male?yes

He=human? adult? male? yes

True story? From fiction? tv? film? FYOI? this, but it could have really happened.

Any of these relevant;
location?
era?
profession?
hobbies?
background?
family? this
money?
education?
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Did he do something that he later regretted? or is the regret because of something he didn't do?

Is it his family as such that is relevant? or something specific about his family?
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Did he do something that he later regretted?this or is the regret because of something he didn't do?

Is it his family as such that is relevant? or something specific about his familythis
Maybe...the words his family will lead you down the wrong path...but, it is essentially his family.
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Is he married? does he have any children? if he has, does he live with the children's mother?

Is his parents? siblings? aunts/uncles? grandparents? other family member relevant?

Genealogy relevant?
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Is he married?yes does he have any children?irr if he has, does he live with the children's mother? yes

Is his parents? siblings? aunts/uncles? grandparents?none
other family member relevant? yes....

Genealogy relevant?not his...
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His wife's genealogy?

The other relevant family member(s), blood relations? or by marriage?
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His wife's genealogy?Yes

The other relevant family member(s), blood relations?not this or by marriage?this
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That person is it his wife? or someone in his wife's family?
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That person is it his wife? or someone in his wife's family?Both his wife and someone in her family and another person. All related my marriage except wife and someone in her family.
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Do we need to find exactly how these persons are related to him/his wife?
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Do we need to find exactly how these persons are related to him/his wife?Yes
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So there are two relevant persons except his wife, right? One is the wife's blood relation and the other the wife's relation through marriage?

The blood relation, is it close family to his wife? parent? sibling? grandparent? or a bit more distant? like cousins? further out?
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So there are two relevant persons except his wife, right? One is the wife's blood relation and the other the wife's relation through marriage?Exactly correct.

The blood relation, is it close family to his wife? parent? sibling?yes grandparent? or a bit more distant? like cousins? further out?
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Is the second person married to the sibling?
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Is the second person married to the sibling?yes
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Does he help his wife's sibling and spouse with something? Is this something related to genealogy? something else? something practical? money involved?

As he obviously regrets this, does it mean he has lost something? money? status? friends? job? has someone died?
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Does he help his wife's sibling and spouse with something?no Is this something related to genealogy?not that much something else?Yes something practical?Depends on the POV money involved? Yes

As he obviously regrets this, does it mean he has lost something?yes money?no status? friends? job?He has but the focus is on 'why' has someone died?yes
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Does he lend them money? If so, is this his own money?
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Does he lend them money?no If so, is this his own money?NA
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But money is involved. So does the relative borrow money from someone? or do they invest money in something?
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But money is involved. So does the relative borrow money from someone?No or do they invest money in something?No


By the way, your personal quote completely opposes my puzzle....
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Hmmm, let's find out about that money. Does the money belong to 'him'? his wife? the relatives? Friends? some aquaintance? someone else?

Was someone ungrateful? angry? resentful? because he did what he did?

need to go, and I suppose that when I come back after the weekend it will all be solved, sigh
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Hmmm, let's find out about that money. Does the money belong to 'him'?no his wife?partly the relatives?partly Friends? some aquaintance? someone else?none of these

Was someone ungrateful? angry?this resentful? because he did what he did?

need to go, and I suppose that when I come back after the weekend it will all be solved, sigh
It's fine. You'll still have been the deciding factor in these two puzzles i guess.
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HINT: There is something about the two siblings that is very relevant. It's quite a common thing.
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Are the siblings twins?
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Are the siblings twins?Yes!
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Did the man confuse his wife with her twin? Or did someone else? Are they identical twins?
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Did the man confuse his wife with her twin?Yes Or did someone else? Are they identical twins?Yes
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Was his wife angry that he got them confused? Did he give something to the twin that he should have given to the wife? Or did the twin's husband make this mistake?
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Was his wife angry that he got them confused?No Did he give something to the twin that he should have given to the wife?No Or did the twin's husband make this mistake?No
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Hope it's not this...but, did he sleep with his wife's sister, thinking it was his wife? kiss her? something else along these lines?
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Just caught something...
You mentioned to Eli that his personal quote opposes your title. Is this significant?

His quote is "it is far better to regret something you have done, than regretting doing it." So it was something that he did and regretted as opposed to not doing and regretting.
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Hope it's not this...but, did he sleep with his wife's sister, thinking it was his wife?No kiss her?No something else along these lines?Slightly close

Just caught something...
You mentioned to Eli that his personal quote opposes your title. Is this significant? See below

His quote is "it is far better to regret something you have done, than regretting doing it." So it was something that he did and regretted as opposed to not doing and regretting.Yes
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HINT: The sisters did not like each other very much.....
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To clarify: did the man see his wife and think it was the sister, or see the sister and think it was his wife?
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To clarify: did the man see his wife and think it was the sisterNo, or see the sister and think it was his wife?This
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So, did the wife's sister pretended to be the man's wife, and he didn't realize it?

Was the twin trying to get something from him? money? a baby?

Was he having problems with his wife? with her sister?

Did he kill his wife's twin by any chance, thinking it was his wife?

Did he kill his wife, thinking it was the twin?
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So, did the wife's sister pretended to be the man's wife, and he didn't realize it? No

Was the twin trying to get something from him? money? a baby? FA

Was he having problems with his wife?No with her sister? FA

Did he kill his wife's twin by any chance, thinking it was his wife? Yes

Did he kill his wife, thinking it was the twin?FA
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Someone died. Was this the man? His wife? The wife's twin? The twin's husband? Were they murdered? Died by accident? Suicide? Was this death a direct result of the man's getting confused?
Did the man speak to the woman he thought was his wife? Give something to her? Perform any acton towards or against her? Harm her in any way?
Was the sister deliberately impersonating the wife?
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Someone died. Was this the man? His wife? The wife's twin?This The twin's husband?and This Were they murdered?Yes Died by accident? Suicide? Was this death a direct result of the man's getting confused?Yes
Did the man speak to the woman he thought was his wife?No Give something to her?No Perform any acton towards or against her?Yes Harm her in any way? Yes
Was the sister deliberately impersonating the wife? No
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Was the man unaware his wife had a twin?
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Was the man unaware his wife had a twin?YES!
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So he wanted to kill his wife, and saw someone who he assumed to be her but was actually her sister and killed her. Was this for financial reasons? Jealousy? Anger?
Did he also kill the twin's husband? Was the husband a witness to the first murder? Did the killer realise soon afterwards that he had made a mistake, or much later? Did he ever realise?
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So, he wanted to kill his wife and didn't realize she had a twin? Now the wife knows her husband wanted to kill her--and he is in jail because what could have been a perfect murder is not (because the one he wanted dead--his wife-- is still alive and possibly a witness)?
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So he wanted to kill his wife,No and saw someone who he assumed to be her but was actually her sister and killed her.Yes Was this for financial reasons? Jealousy? Anger?This
Did he also kill the twin's husband?Yes Was the husband a witness to the first murder?He died before her. Did the killer realise soon afterwards that he had made a mistake, or much later?Much later Did he ever realise?Yes
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When he killed the sister, did he think at that time that it was his wife? Or did he look at the body after the murder, assume it was his wife and feel guilty? Was it a premeditated murder or a sudden fit of anger?
Long shot: did he see the sister in bed with her husband (or kissing him or whatever), think it was his wife having an affair and kill them both through anger?
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When he killed the sister, did he think at that time that it was his wife?Yes Or did he look at the body after the murder, assume it was his wife and feel guilty?No Was it a premeditated murder or a sudden fit of anger?Sudden fit of anger.
Long shot: did he see the sister in bed with her husband (or kissing him or whatever), think it was his wife having an affair and kill them both through anger?Long shot = BULLSEYE!
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So is there more? Man sees his wife with an unfamiliar man, kills them both and only later realises it was not his wife but her twin sister.Presumably he regrets this as he is caught and tried for murder (and his wife is angry with him for murdering her sister?) Anything more?
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********SPOILER********
The two sisters did not like each other because the father had favoured the slightly older twin in the inheritance, causing the younger one to argue and claim equal share of the property. Eventually, they drifted apart and the wife of this man, neglected to tell her husband that she had a twin sister. So, when he saw her kissing her husband at *insert random place here*, he thought his wife was cheating on him with another man and thus, killed them both in a rage.

Congratulations to all who participated and WELL DONE!!
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Good puzzle!

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